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ghostsi 05-15-2006 09:20 AM

slick problem at the track
 
Well i have a pair of slicks that were new mounted on some ghetto rims. I put air in them and drove to the track and put them on. I lowered the tire pressure to about 12psi on each tire and made a pass. at the end of the pass i was making my turn and the tire fell off the rim. I took the tire to my local tire shop and they would not put air in to see if there was a leak or anything they sent me packing. if you look at the tire on the inside it is all folded under i cannot get the thing to hold air.

Is this slick still good? do i just need to try a different tire shop?

https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b...Picture190.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b...Picture188.jpg
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b...Picture189.jpg

whiterice 05-15-2006 11:30 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
get a set of inner tubes for those slicks.
looks like 15"
m/t should have some ones that fit.

rudebwoy 05-15-2006 11:41 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
are they wrinkle walls? you need to get locking scwrews to hold them in place. I've seen a writeup on how to make your own, but summit sells them also.

Tom-Guy 05-15-2006 11:47 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Until you are spinning the slick on the rim, you do not want tubes. They actually hurt traction, and make the car more unstable at speed.

Mickey has a nice tech article on the subject.

Bone1 05-15-2006 12:48 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
typical noobie on slicks, car is no longer a gokart.

You can try to reseat the bead, try 14-15 psi.

Also how low is your car? The camber is gonna kill the inside of the slicks RREALLY quick!

rudebwoy 05-15-2006 01:18 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
I had my first taste of slicks last weekend, it was so fun I fried my clutch doing burnouts, I was using road racing slicks, I remember someone saying they are shitty, they felt great to me, those things hook and go until the clutch slips, but I loved them.

leed 05-15-2006 02:36 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
https://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b...Picture188.jpg

Is that a slice in the bead, or is just the photo?

ghostsi 05-15-2006 07:29 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
LOL have no idea dave. I do not have bread in my garage tho. My car is not that low. it is a standard 1.5inch drop. I am a noob with slicks. That was my 1st time ever using them. I may try the rebeading trick. i tried to use a long screwdriver and pop the inerside of the tire back out but it would not stay. >:(

bumblezc 05-15-2006 07:37 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Do the slicks require a tube, some do, some don't.

And yes, on drag racing slicks, your no longer a go kart!! Take you corners slow!!!

Bone1 05-15-2006 07:46 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Your gonna have to get the bead reseated before trying to add air.

Old school, yet dangerous/fun, starter fluid inside the tire and toss a match at the tire.

Saw it on TV when they run low tire pressure (3-4 psi) on the artic ice.

Rock crawlers do it also.


whiterice 05-15-2006 07:59 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
what brand of slicks are these? wrinkle wall?

FooK 05-15-2006 08:12 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
put a ratchet strap around the center of the tire and crank it down, start adding air, it should bead back up.

old schooler 4x4 trick #2

ghostsi 05-15-2006 09:01 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
LOL thanks fook ;D

Bone1 05-16-2006 01:32 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by FooK
put a ratchet strap around the center of the tire and crank it down, start adding air, it should bead back up.

old schooler 4x4 trick #2

That would work if he had some sidewall!

FooK 05-16-2006 01:34 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
That would work if he had some sidewall!

eh, the time and effort spent, its worth a shot.

88dx 05-16-2006 01:41 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
U have to do huge fatty burnouts on slicks or they will hate you and fall off :P

RENR 05-16-2006 01:41 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
those looke like the hoosier slicks. im having the same issue, yes im a slick noob. i filled them up with air and they only held for about a day. beats me

Tom-Guy 05-16-2006 01:45 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Hoosiers sux use m&h or mickey thompson

0b00st0 05-16-2006 02:15 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
Your gonna have to get the bead reseated before trying to add air.

Old school, yet dangerous/fun, starter fluid inside the tire and toss a match at the tire.

Saw it on TV when they run low tire pressure (3-4 psi) on the artic ice.

Rock crawlers do it also.


That episode was awsome. They built up those 4 runners to go out on the artic. The crevis bar in the front really does work wonders.



Bone1 05-16-2006 04:27 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
it if didn't work..........goodbye!

TorinRage 05-16-2006 04:38 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
alright remove the valve core out of the tire start to fill it up and make sure u have that thing strapped down so whent he beed sets it doesnt jump up and take you out...filll it up and if u dont hear the pops meaning the beed is sealed. then let out all the air and re fill and that strap around them works as well.. push it up to around 65 psi... once u hear the beeds set let alll the air out and fill it up again to around 65 psi. so double seat the beeds .

Bone1 05-16-2006 11:03 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
65 psi on a slick? I don;t think so, you'll stretch the slick and car will never track straight again!!!!!!!!!!


ghostsi 05-17-2006 12:43 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
they are M/T slicks and holy crap you want me to put 65psi on slick rated to not go over 35psi.

HMT-Admin 05-17-2006 12:55 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by Mista Bone
65 psi on a slick? I don;t think so, you'll stretch the slick and car will never track straight again!!!!!!!!!!


I had to seat my slicks at 80psi, les schwab, tire factory, nobody would do it, because at 65 they were freaking out. So Beau did it for me haha.

Yea donavan.. I think you should get some fancy wood screws and just screw them right through the rim into the tire, garrison style.


leed 05-17-2006 12:58 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Having to seat a tire at 60+ is scary. Ive seen what a tire does when a damaged bead fails when its being seated.

Bone1 05-17-2006 04:33 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
25 psi to seat my slicks, all 4 sets.

65-80 is gonna stretch the hides, likely weaken then also.

But when your used to 6.5-8.0 psi in the Goodyears, 20 psi seems a little high!

jinxy 05-17-2006 04:36 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
I saw my boss get knocked out after seating a generic atv tire at 70psi. He made me do all the ones after that :-X

SiTurboD 05-17-2006 09:05 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
Ive been a tiretech for like 3 yrs now.. I could seat that ----.. those guys are morons who wouldnt put air in it. My slicks were the same way.. lots of lube with no valve core and a shot of air. :y

HMT-Admin 05-18-2006 12:25 AM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by SiTurboD
Ive been a tiretech for like 3 yrs now.. I could seat that ----.. those guys are morons who wouldnt put air in it. My slicks were the same way.. lots of lube with no valve core and a shot of air. :y

yup, thats how we did it.. massive lube, half a bottle of trans prep ;)


TorinRage 05-18-2006 04:43 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 
yea same here butter tht sht up good and filll that ---- and if u happe to have a cheata laying around or able to use it then rock that fucker

SiTurboD 05-18-2006 09:04 PM

Re: slick problem at the track
 

Originally Posted by TorinRage
yea same here butter tht sht up good and filll that ---- and if u happe to have a cheata laying around or able to use it then rock that fucker

deff.. cheetah lol go to a local discount tire co .. if you have one.


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