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samson 06-17-2006 06:52 PM

Short Shifter or Stock Shifter Preference...
 
Just curious of who actually STILL rocks the stock shifter. I still do and I'm thinking about buying the eGay special and was curious of what all of you run. If an aftermarket shifter what make and style (Dual Bend, Road Race, etc.).

I saw in FS a guy made a Road Race shifter and I had some time after traction bar fab work to make one. I'll get pics up later, but the only thing is I rock the stock shifter still and the pull is a little long due to the extra length. :-\ Also, I like the stock looking shifter knob but the plastic threads inside aren't the same as the 3/8 all-thread rod and won't tighten down all the way. Any suggestions?

P.S. Thank you for your opinions and suggestions contributed to my post/poll! ;) ;D


JP

Donald125 06-17-2006 07:10 PM

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IMO stock shifter works just fine unless ur doing mad tye road racing :S

if ur getting ebay shifters make sure your getting a stainless steel one not the shitty alum ones.

buk9tp 06-17-2006 07:20 PM

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LOL i just remembered the fucker on here with that LONG ass shifter :1

anyone got a picture of that :P

Stan 06-17-2006 07:22 PM

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Short shifters ruin Honda trannies.

z1guy 06-17-2006 07:44 PM

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i thought i wanted one, put one in and now i plan on swapping back to stock. takes more leverage to get into gear, and almost defeats the need for the quicker throw of the short shifter, you have to actually slam it into gear, or you find yourself taking longer to shift. i dont recommend any short shifter for a honda.

salesmonkey 06-17-2006 07:47 PM

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my short shifter is like a b&m one and it is sometimes hard to get it to first if you downshifting. and jingles alittle bit in 2nd as its rubing against my 3" exhaust. but from what i have heard one of the better short shifters is the skunk2 short shifter.

SpankedYA! 06-17-2006 08:02 PM

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I like mine. I put them in all my cars.

mhorton 06-17-2006 08:05 PM

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I've seen people talking about how you have to double-clutch to keep from breaking stuff with a short shifter. Seems to defeat the purpose, because you can't tell me that you can double clutch and still shift faster than with a stock shifter.
Anyway to answer the question, I'm using a stock shifter, but I have an aftermarket knob which sits lower to start with, and cut some of the threads off so its shorter. I did this mostly to not obstruct the LCD screen I installed in the staock radio/ashtray area.

G2turbo_terror 06-17-2006 08:43 PM

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I had the B&M edge shifter in my integra and loved it. In my last civic I overhauled the shifter by replacing the rubber washers, removing all the rust and re-greasing everything and that makes a big difference too. I'd say its up to you but don't get one of those cheap ones, there prone to breaking.


Originally Posted by Stan
Short shifters ruin Honda trannies.

Is there any proof to this? I've heard a few things but its hard to seperate truth between interweb foklore

USS 06-17-2006 08:44 PM

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Anyone know where to get them rally shifters? Those fuckers are sweet.

95civicLX 06-17-2006 08:46 PM

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I have a Fidanza dual bend short throw shifter from ebay it was like $30 shipped. I love it...it has incredibly short shifts, but still stock height. No problems so far.

D15Bastard 06-17-2006 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by z1guy
i thought i wanted one, put one in and now i plan on swapping back to stock. takes more leverage to get into gear, and almost defeats the need for the quicker throw of the short shifter, you have to actually slam it into gear, or you find yourself taking longer to shift. i dont recommend any short shifter for a honda.

True, Ive been rockin one in my civic that I got from Chris years ago. It works great I guess if your slammin through the gears. But sucks drivin around town. Its hard to get into gears. so its a love hate thing i guess.

TomPlastina 06-17-2006 09:02 PM

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They dont make em for the 92 accords, unless im wrong?

z1guy 06-17-2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan
Short shifters ruin Honda trannies.

actually slamming gears at higher rpms ruins them, and the shorter throw quicker shift doesnt let the rpms drop as much, so thats what ruins them.

Loserkidwac 06-17-2006 09:13 PM

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I'm rocking a del sol shifter in my rex...its like a stock honda short shifter, well it sits lower to the floor but th throw is about the same...I've heard of cutting a section out of the top of the shifter and welding it below the pivot ball, may be hard to fabricate but that would be the ideal short shifter for a honda I'd image

blackman 06-17-2006 09:17 PM

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i have a cheap 17 dollar ebay cut down a little bit and put in backwards.. (on purpose like the way it sits) ive had it in my last three hondas over the past 3 or 4 years i like it

Racintweek 06-17-2006 09:28 PM

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I do not have problems with my b&m i used my stock knob

AgentMurdoc 06-17-2006 09:34 PM

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i <3 the stock shifter.

stevecivic 06-18-2006 12:02 AM

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i had a B&M and just replaced it for the stock shifter. The stock one is alot easier to get into gears and i don't grind gears with the stock one.

hotlavaflow 06-18-2006 12:11 AM

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Short shifter. There's nothing wrong with them if (1) it's a quality piece (2) installed correctly. The problem with grinding gears, vibration and difficulty getting into gear is caused from the loss in weight. Get a weighted shift knob, problem solved.

z1guy 06-18-2006 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hotlavaflow
Short shifter. There's nothing wrong with them if (1) it's a quality piece (2) installed correctly. The problem with grinding gears, vibration and difficulty getting into gear is caused from the loss in weight. Get a weighted shift knob, problem solved.

its the loss of leverage, not weight. thats a marketing skeem.

Minor Threat 06-18-2006 12:39 AM

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I like my egay short shifter, it feels normal to me now.

What I find more important however, is replacing the shitty 10-15 year old rubber shift bushings with urathane bits.

Seriously, the Energy kit is like, 10 bucks from any speed shop and it's the best 10 bucks I've ever spent.

87na_rx7 06-18-2006 01:50 AM

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1 Attachment(s)
best shifter set up i have ever had
Attachment 33676
skunk2 single bend with a scat knob

Donald125 06-18-2006 03:24 AM

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i belive those shift knob (more like shift rod :P) are made for sequential transmissions.

87na_rx7 06-18-2006 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
i belive those shift knob (more like shift rod :P) are made for sequential transmissions.

its for a vw bug

drunkinmaster1 06-18-2006 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by buk9tp
LOL i just remembered the fucker on here with that LONG ass shifter :1

anyone got a picture of that :P

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
id rather have one of these horse cock shifters because its closer to the steering wheel.

ghettoturbo 06-18-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by samson


I saw in FS a guy made a Road Race shifter and I had some time after traction bar fab work to make one. I'll get pics up later, but the only thing is I rock the stock shifter still and the pull is a little long due to the extra length. :-\ Also, I like the stock looking shifter knob but the plastic threads inside aren't the same as the 3/8 all-thread rod and won't tighten down all the way. Any suggestions?




JP

lengthen the section between the ball and the bottom of the shifter...that will decrease throw. Ive never bought a short-throw shifter, i make my own out of the stock ones

JDMFantasy2K 06-18-2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan
Short shifters ruin Honda trannies.

quick shifts at 8000 rpm ruin honda trannys ;)

samson 06-18-2006 01:50 PM

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This is what I came up with after I saw this from a guy in the FS forum.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8...gp0632s3wv.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7...gp0633s7os.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1...gp0635s4ha.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/981/imgp0638s4jj.jpg

I <3 my stock shifter knob, but the plastic threads make it impossible to tighten down all the way on 3/8 all thread. :'( Otherwise I LOVE it. Seem to actually get a better shift too. Who knows, I like it. :)


JP

ghettoturbo 06-18-2006 02:05 PM

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lol you basically made it a truck shifter...

mike94se 06-18-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by samson
This is what I came up with after I saw this from a guy in the FS forum.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8...gp0632s3wv.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7...gp0633s7os.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1...gp0635s4ha.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/981/imgp0638s4jj.jpg

I <3 my stock shifter knob, but the plastic threads make it impossible to tighten down all the way on 3/8 all thread. :'( Otherwise I LOVE it. Seem to actually get a better shift too. Who knows, I like it. :)


JP

Problem is with the stock one it still has a long throw. What wannabgts did was he used the short throw shifter so it would be near stock. Yours is gonna be longer "throwing" distances than his

HondaTuner 06-18-2006 04:22 PM

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So Josh, when can I drive your pickup truck? :P

drupie51013 06-18-2006 06:14 PM

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i have a cheap ebay short shifter i bought 3 years ago for like 10 bucks and it works fine.

samson 06-18-2006 06:25 PM

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The throw isn't all that bad really and what people have been saying about the short throws being bad makes me a little nervous. It really is very comfortable to shift and when ripping it's not awkward (suprisingly). I can try to get video of shifting if anyone wants to see the travel of it.


JP

SpankedYA! 06-18-2006 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by samson
This is what I came up with after I saw this from a guy in the FS forum.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8...gp0632s3wv.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7...gp0633s7os.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1...gp0635s4ha.jpg
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/981/imgp0638s4jj.jpg

I <3 my stock shifter knob, but the plastic threads make it impossible to tighten down all the way on 3/8 all thread. :'( Otherwise I LOVE it. Seem to actually get a better shift too. Who knows, I like it. :)


JP

8 speed split shift FTW!

94civicex 06-24-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by samson
This is what I came up with after I saw this from a guy in the FS forum.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/981/imgp0638s4jj.jpg


LMAO ! ! ! *tears*


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