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samson 05-17-2007 06:15 PM

Shocks and HMT's Advice...
 
So I'm in need of some new shocks/struts for my EJ8 and was looking for advice from my fellow board members (that's you). I want something that isn't stiff, bouncy, or hard to ride on. It's your typical boosted D on 10lbs for the DD. DEFINITLY comfort over performance. Looking to drag at the track once in a while, but mostly looking for a better ride from my Eibach lowered coupe. Any opinions/suggestions are greatly appreicated and thank you in advance guys!


Here is a set I found and curious if anyone has braved these on their ride: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-D...QQcmdZViewItem

Cliff Notes: Looking for 'Momma Bears' shocks (i.e. comfy/soft).



JP

Jmunk 05-17-2007 06:20 PM

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Dropzone = junk.

Omni are decnet, Tein, SKunk2, Neuspeed, H&R.........

beerbongskickass 05-17-2007 06:26 PM

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I love my setup. H&R sport springs and Tokico Illumina struts. It's a pretty small drop (1.8 front, 1.6 rear), the struts are 5-way adjustable and setting 1 to 5 is night and day difference. Settings 1 feels stock and setting 5 is stiff as hell. My setup worked really well at the track and awesome on the street. I always drive around with them on the hardest setting, but for a really long drive I might dial it down a bit.

samson 05-17-2007 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
I love my setup. H&R sport springs and Tokico Illumina struts. It's a pretty small drop (1.8 front, 1.6 rear), the struts are 5-way adjustable and setting 1 to 5 is night and day difference. Settings 1 feels stock and setting 5 is stiff as hell. My setup worked really well at the track and awesome on the street. I always drive around with them on the hardest setting, but for a really long drive I might dial it down a bit.


See, the adjustable's are so much more expensive than regular 'pre-set' shocks. Is it worth the extra money? To change the setting you just reach a hand in and twist the knob?

My Dad suggested adj. on the rear (stiff for track) and run non-adj. up front. Opinions?



Originally Posted by Jmunk
Dropzone = junk.

Omni are decnet, Tein, SKunk2, Neuspeed, H&R.........


W0rd. Thanks, outta the question. Can you be more specific in which?


Awesome, thanks guys.


JP

darksol2005 05-17-2007 06:31 PM

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If your looking for something compfy to drive around in that will perform well at the track, you NEED adjustable shocks. My recommendations are Tein, Tokico, or KYB AGX's. Or quit being a ----- and roll some stiff shocks :y

88dx 05-17-2007 06:37 PM

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I have those Drop zone struts, they feel the same as the kyb's on my CRX

beerbongskickass 05-17-2007 06:38 PM

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Yeah they are more expensive, but if you have a street/strip car they are defintely worth it in my opinion. If you lived close I'd give you a ride and show you the difference. Changing them is easy as hell too, takes about 1 second a strut with a small flathead screwdriver. Personally I would just get adjustables all around if you going to get them at all.

I have a stock 89 hatch right now, I got the springs, but I don't know what to do about struts. I don't need adjustables, but they are just better struts than the non adjustable ones. Example tokico blues and kyb gr2, basically stock replacements, so nothing special. The adjustable tokicos and kyb's on the other hand allow for a small drop (1.5 inches or so) and can handle aftermarket spring rates better from what I have read.

samson 05-17-2007 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by darksol2005
If your looking for something compfy to drive around in that will perform well at the track, you NEED adjustable shocks. My recommendations are Tein, Tokico, or KYB AGX's. Or quit being a ----- and roll some stiff shocks :y

Ha, thanks. My MAJOR concern are the passengers, mainly chicks. It sucked bad enough not hearing anything in a N/A 3" exhaust rattle bucket when my seals went, last thing I need is to spend bank on a stiff ride. :-X


So basically the NON-Adj. ones are all pretty much stiff?



Originally Posted by beerbongskickass
The adjustable tokicos and kyb's on the other hand allow for a small drop (1.5 inches or so) and can handle aftermarket spring rates better from what I have read.

The Adj. ones drop you more or just allow for that drop?



JP

Donald125 05-17-2007 06:43 PM

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get the blisten shocks, they ride like europen cars i sware LOL

samson 05-17-2007 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
get the blisten shocks, they ride like europen cars i sware LOL


Right Donald, I want this EJ8 to ride like a Caddy so stock replacement springs to me seem kind of pointless. All that money for nothing good at all. :-\

Blisten is about a couple hundred dollars too much for me though, haha.


JP

FooK 05-17-2007 07:06 PM

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I had some ground control knockoff's on my 95si, and tokico blues with them. Thing was comfortable and rode great.

beerbongskickass 05-17-2007 07:31 PM

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I was thinking about blues or any cheap strut really, but the srpings formy ef are going to drop the car 1.9 in the front and 1.8 in the rear, which is kinda low, so I don't want to buy some cheap struts that will just blow out after a year. I'm still undecided on what to get really.

darksol2005 05-17-2007 07:33 PM

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Keep in mind, most older honda suspension is crap and worn out anyways, and there's a big difference between riding old worn out ---- and new stock suspension. New shocks, something stock-ish like KYB gr2's (close to stock replacments like BBKA said) would probably feel pretty good on the hole, and perform decent.

FooK 05-17-2007 07:40 PM

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I did a set of H & R SoftSports with a set of Tokico Blues on a 90 CRX SI for a co-worker. He loves the way that thing rides and drives now. Lower was only about .75" drop, which was perfect for that car really.

Donald125 05-17-2007 07:51 PM

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true dat, with stock spring i went from 12 years old stock shocks to KYBGR2s and i couldn`t belivehow good these little car handles stock LOL
BTw i have gsr sway bars fornt and back as well :P

samson 05-17-2007 09:13 PM

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Thanks a ton for all the advice and imput guys. Good point about just getting rid of decade plus old shocks. :S Never thought about that. I think (since I'm not a BIG weekend warrior) I'd prefer comfort over the added options of stiffness and what not.


So with that said. We've narrowed it down fellas!

KYB GR2's
Tokico Blues
Skunk2's


Between those three, and the cheapest are GR2's on eGay and most expensive I believe are (about equal at around $40 more) the remaining two. OR throw in another option, but VERY good point about stock replacement and having old shocks. :P I tend to forget that my car is 10 years old. :-X


JP

jinxy 05-17-2007 09:58 PM

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I run my gr2's on a celica, rides good and the car ways a lot more than a civic. never tried the others though.

USS 05-17-2007 11:03 PM

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Buy from shox.com. Ebay = no warranty.

jspin 05-17-2007 11:10 PM

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i would advice against the tokico blue, they seem to be really hit and miss. i had a set on my old toyota and the first one went around 10k miles with realatively easy driving. i installed a set on my friends civic and the left rear only lasted about 1k miles. that being said a friend of mine has a set on his DA that have lasted 25k+

samson 05-17-2007 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Snafubmx234
Buy from shox.com. Ebay = no warranty.


W0rd. Thanks, Colin.



Originally Posted by jspin
i would advice against the tokico blue, they seem to be really hit and miss. i had a set on my old toyota and the first one went around 10k miles with realatively easy driving. i installed a set on my friends civic and the left rear only lasted about 1k miles. that being said a friend of mine has a set on his DA that have lasted 25k+


Thought the warranty was lifetime?


JP

Oscar 05-17-2007 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by samson

W0rd. Thanks, Colin.



Thought the warranty was lifetime?


JP

limited lifetime. If you go to low, the warranty is void.

I'd go with some gr2's and s-techs. they ride very nice.

samson 05-17-2007 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
limited lifetime. If you go to low, the warranty is void.

I'd go with some gr2's and s-techs. they ride very nice.

Already have Eibach Sportlines (I think,it's their lowest drop which isn't alot). GR2's seem like a good thing here, fellas...



I mean, my driver's side rear sags more than the rest of the car, ha.


JP

Oscar 05-17-2007 11:40 PM

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ok, what's your budget?

If you're only buying shocks, then get some kyb agx. Those have adjustability and can handle a much lower drop.

samson 05-17-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by d112crzy
ok, what's your budget?

If you're only buying shocks, then get some kyb agx. Those have adjustability and can handle a much lower drop.


Ha, read the rest of the thread. Don't need the adjustability. Looking for a smooth, comfortable ride. Last thing I want is stiff aftermarket shocks bouncing me around or stock shocks that make me wonder why I wasted extra money on aftermarket ones.


JP

darksol2005 05-18-2007 12:00 AM

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The way it's sounding, you'll be really happy w/ a set of gr2's

samson 05-18-2007 01:32 PM

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Mike has a pretty sweet deal on Skunk2 shocks, so does anyone have an opinion about these or run them before? If not, I'll probably snatch them up.


JP

Ravage70 05-18-2007 01:41 PM

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Dropzone shocks come preblown.
Just ask my buddy ^-^

samson 05-31-2007 11:48 AM

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After all is said and done I went with and installed with Daddi-0 a set of:


Skunk2 Sport Shocks

Yeap, Mike has a really good deal on them and I decided to go with that after his advice (along with yours of course, HMT). Thanks guys, I'm pretty pleased with them. They ARE a little stiffer, but nothing dramatic and I DO live in PA and I believe its "statistically proven by statistics that prove" that PA has the worst roads out of the normal 48. :y PA people will vouche for sucky roads, ha. None-the-less it's more of a quick jolt than a constant cut spring bouncy ride if/when you hit a bump. My tires suck and squeal, but man a new set a shocks did wonders in the bends. No body roll and just a tight on track turn and would be much better if I didn't roll on nice, tall All-Seasons. :1 Got a chance to race on them and I pre-loaded most of my runs so the issue with weight transfer really wasn't there; however, it does help and is noticable banging the gears later and not completely melting tires away from a sagging rear.


I'd give it about an 8.5 out of 10 though because I like smooth rides and I live in PA so sometimes the smooth cruising isn't always an option. None-the-less, I'm pleased. Thanks again for all the input fellows and I'd definitly recommend these for a budget set-up on your blown suspension.


JP

jaykew99 06-01-2007 02:51 AM

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^^^ I love that mani

WTF 06-05-2007 02:46 PM

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when my struts and coils were trashed i got some new k-sport coilovers for like 500somthin shipped, fully adjustable, but i guess a handful of h-t'ers have had theres blow out way too soon.

samson 06-05-2007 04:11 PM

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[quote=WTF ]
when my struts and coils were trashed i got some new k-sport coilovers for like 500somthin shipped, fully adjustable, but i guess a handful of h-t'ers have had theres blow out way too soon.
[/quote


Needed a budget replacement and Mike has a REALLY smoking deal on these Skunk2s. I recommend them. :y


JP

imburne 06-05-2007 05:04 PM

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If your on a budget the dropzones are fine. Your not gonna get a killer ride or anything but they are cheaper than oem bullshit.. ride quality is decent and they are stiffer than oem

tokiko blues and ground control are great combo. for some more cash of course.


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