Scam?? Strange things afoot
 

So Ive been trying to sell my '74 mercedes and last week it was listed in Vintage car trader online. This morning I get an email from a gal by the name of Jenifer. So I emailed back....and this is the response...

Hello James
Thanks for the e-mail and for telling me the condition of the car i have spoken with the Buyerand he make me understand that he is okay with theprice and Condition that mean he is ready to pay forthe car which he as already make and arrangement for the payment by check which you will be expecting A Certified check of $7,000 And Asap you have receivethe check of $7,000 you will deduct the cost of the car which is $1,700 and send the Balance Of $5000 to The Shipper company in London Who will be pickup thecar And keep the remaining $300 that the buyerPromise to give you As the for the Inconvenecies And After you have receive the Check And Wire theBalance of the money to the shipper Company they will contact you immediately And arrange with you with where you will like them to pickup the car. so for the Payment to be Mail out to you My i will like you to get back to me with the information below, FULL NAME ADDRESS ...

ZIPCODE.....

STATE.....

CITY....

HOME PHONE....

CELL PHONE..........

I will be looking forward to have the information Asap so that the payment can be mail out to you Asap And i will like you to email me with the pics of the car so that my client can see what he is paying for.
Regards
Jennifer

Obviously this is not a english 1st language type person, and that someone outside the US wants to buy my car. It just sounds kind of fishy to me. Im concerned about it being a scam, but they dont ask me for any info they couldnt get out of a phone book, and they are going to send me the money +5k to give to the shipper (from England) ???

So anyone here sold a car outside the US? Does this sound fishy to anyone?

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SCAM
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That is my first thought....It seems to good to be true...
but how would they scam me? Its a certified check (not a bank transfer) and they havent asked me for any really vital info???

I just set some alarms going that they trust me with 5grand and wouldnt go through an Escrow service

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have them mail the check to a po box and then cash it and dont send the rest of the money back! but other wise its a scam.

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What gets me is how do they plan on scamming me?

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im thinking the checks their using are stolen and they want someone else to cash them. if anyone gets caughtit will be your ass not theres.

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Ahhhh good point I knew it had something to do with the check, makes sense to me. Im going to ask a few questions about the shipping, and insist that they use an Escrow service not send me a check

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Thats the oldest scam in the book. Really think about it. Anytime your selling something and you have to send someone else money, that should be a huge red flag. They're hoping that you will send the money and the car before the check clears so you'll be ---- out of the money. When you get the check, wait to see if it clears.


Don't be a sucker, never send anybody else money when your selling something. Do you really think a legitimate buyer would send you more money and trust you to make the transaction ::)

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DUDE I WAS WATCING THAT SCAM ON THE NEWS.. SERIOUSLY THIS IS WHAT YOU DO...

open a PO BOX.. easy to do.
take the check..
cash it...
keep it...
don't spend anything...
hide in a shoe box or somewhere safe...
just tell the officials that you meat this guy who mailed you the check over seas and gave him the remaining balance from wich the deal was for him to buy your car...
they can't do anything.. you where scammed and had no knowledge of ... PERIOD.. i been waiting for an opportunity like that to come my way.. take it... seriously they can't do anything.

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It really is. I work at a bank, and we get these from time to time. They just use a fraudulent official check, but since you're the one depositing or cashing it, it's your ass on the line and they assum little or no risk. They could care less about getting your car, they just want cash.

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Warren, there are several things wrong with your plan. It just doesn't work like that. First of all there is a high likelyhood that the bank will place a hold on the check or will try to verify funds before just giving cash out.

Then, even if you do end up getting the cash (which does happen, or this scam wouldn't even exist) that amount is referenced against your account. Even though you did not write the check, you'll be held accountable. So after your account sits negative for awhile, it will be charged off, your name will go to chexsystems so that you can never open an account again anywhere until the old account is payed off. Furthermore, if the amount is substantial, the bank will actively pursue getting their money back through litigation.

If only it was as easy as you supposed it to be.

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Nope I didnt think anyone legit would do this, just wanted to see what kind of things they would scam me on...

Noone knows the scams like Homemadeturbo, better then the damn FBI

Im not touching this with a ten foot pole with a condom on the end

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The bottom line is that its a risk not worth taking. If you want free money just go rob the elderly, you'll assume the same risk doing that as trying to get money out of these overseas scammers

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hope on that, better yet....send it to me i'll do that ----

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The only free money is welfare.

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True. Some fuckstick wrote me a rubber check and I got fucked. I even had to pay a fee for this assholes shitty financial situation. >:(
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This is a common scam I've read about, It's often done over seas and they throw in some bs about shipping. The chack they willl send you is bad. But even so if you send them money. your out the check they sent you and the money. I would honestly try and keep them on the "hook" and report this to some kind of authorities and try to get them busted. I ------- hate con artists with a passion specially after all the non shipping bs going around. Or at least give us thier email so we can ---- with them.

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they will stop payment on their check-DON'T DO IT- IT'S A SCAM- DO NOT SEND THEM ANY MONEY

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It's not that they put a stop-payment, it's that it's a fraudulent check.

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Pay a mexican $20 to cash it for you, then take off with the rest. lol
No but really, I've heard about this scam, and you have to be a complete moron to fall for that ----. I know there are plenty of morons out there, that's why this is still happening. :P

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For anyone interested:

This is a website dedicated 100% to the scam you are being subjected to:

http://www.419eater.com/

The funny part is, the purpose of this website is to take advantage of the 419 scammers (as it's called), and scam them.

If you read through, some of the stories are hillarious. The scammers think they've got you hook line and sinker, and if your as good as the guys on this website, you can actually scam them pretty good. They are all stupid ------- criminals from overseas. Don't go through with it... but browsing through this website might give you some HILLARIOUS ideas on how to play with this little scammer.

Matt

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aren't certified checks from the bank? meaning, you go to the bank and they right you a check and withdraw the money right out of your account, just like a money order basically, but it's from the bank, there fore, how would you have to wait for it to clear, the funds have already been approved for it ???

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Thats what got me...certified check ....but

A. The Certified check blanks can be stolen and filled in.
If its overseas it takes a few days for capital to transfer and for the bank to discover its a bogus check

or

B. The Checks can be conterfit, for which the same as above is applied

I just read the 419 website above and I think I might mess with these people. I just sent out some more questions to the people, and I am going to create a seperate Yahoo account dedicated to this, and make up some BS about how the Email account I was using is being shut down

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LOL I just read the forum and it seems these guys try to get the scammers to send them photos of themselves and they post them up as trophies :o

I think this is my new goal....

someone should post up CHINGRO's pic on this website
check out this pic .....they got him to hold a sign

http://www.419eater.com/images/troph.../o_otaylor.jpg

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I have actually heard about people doing this just the other day.. i think it was on honda tech or maybe some other forums..

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its a ------- scam same ---- happen to one of my homeboys including myself. they are just tryin to get a little money from you. it aint worth it. find someone local, or pimp it out!!! 8)

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Thats pretty badass to ---- with the scammers like that. That sounds like something fun to do. I wanna get some African to hold up a sign saying "Whitey owned my poor black ass"

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actually your right about the chexsystem.. but they can't arrest you or any kind of thing like that. the person who was chosen and be legitematly by the scammer without knowledge of you can't be help responsible.