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tman6919 01-21-2007 03:50 PM

Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
my buddy bought a car last summer and we ran it through carfax last week just for shits and giggles cause a friend had a carfax account. he bought the car from a dealer its a 94 accord lx with a clear Colorado title but carfax says the car is salvaged in kansas, so i just got one question to the HMT title experts, is carfax on crack or is there any way to register a rebuilt from salvage car in another state as a clear title? i already googled the ---- out of this and just cant find an answer

stillnoturbo 01-21-2007 04:02 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
I believe that's there some states that if you title a car from another state with a bad title it won't transfer over. That's just a "heard" thing though.

Cray91 01-21-2007 04:05 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
Salvage title cars can be given a clean title within the same state. You just have to bring the car in for inspection and pay some fees for the new title and inspection.

I am sure there is some work-arounds like transfering the title from one state to another but there are legit ways for a re-title that are not very difficult.

stillnoturbo 01-21-2007 04:14 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
Wouldn't they just get a rebuilt salvage title then?

goldhatch94 01-21-2007 04:50 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
cheack all the vin numbers! :o

Rexula 01-21-2007 04:51 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
My Dad owns a car dealership, and he also has a CarFax account........Well, anyways every time he buys a car from a auction he always CarFax's it even if it come up as having a accident he sends it back. It's just easier not to explain to people why the car was in accident, cause in most cases we don't know. But, we've also had cars come in with a clean CarFax and they are fucked up, as in............We recieved a 03' Buick LaSabre, (I'm a body tech, so sometimes I check for damage on cars for him, or big hit accident fix's), well when I put the car up on the lift the front end had been basically totally replaced, this car had a clean CarFax(we still sent it back). When a insurance company has a car it might still have a clean title just have more damage than they're willing to pay for, so they sell it. Then a body shop buy's them usually and fix's them out of they're pocket(which will not show up on a CarFax unless its reported), which a lot of them aren't and get fixed out of pocket and never get reported, thats what sucks about CarFax. I was selling a 04' SRT4 Neon for someone I knew, this car had a clean title in Michigan, but when we ran the CarFax the car had been given a rebuilt title in Indiana and given a clean title in Ohio, then a clean title in Michigan. So he got screwed, cause if he doesn't let the person buying his car that it has a rebuilt title he can be sued for the amount that they payed for his car and still keep his car. This car only had 16,500 miles on it he had a $16,500 on it originally, once he found out about the title he ended up selling it for only $11,500. He is currently sueing the dealership that sold him the car in Ohio, which new that the car was rebuilt. In the end, with all the natural disasters and other assholes selling these cars you just have to check the car you're buying over really well. CarFax it. People will cheat you........... :y

planewreck 01-21-2007 07:08 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I believe that's there some states that if you title a car from another state with a bad title it won't transfer over. That's just a "heard" thing though.

you are 100% right! I was a gm at a car dealership here in SD, Ive seen so many fucked up things. And no one that I know at any california dealership goes by carfucks.

BoosTedZSix 01-21-2007 08:43 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
so stealerships have to tell you the car has or had a salvage title? even if you dont ask?

Rexula 01-21-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
I'm sure in some cases, some smaller dealerships don't even check cars on CarFax. So, they might not know.......every used car dealer in my area that my dad knows, he said that they check the CarFax for any car they get from the auction for bad accidents, salvage titles, rebuilt titles, flood titles. The 3 biggest used car dealers in my town even check they're trade-ins for that ---- also. Unless its a $500 beater car then they won't. Since car dealers have most of they're titles on hand they would know if the car is rebuilt/salvage in the state it came from. They're is a couple of other companies that do vehicle checks but I forget the names. But, dealerships like CarFax because everyone knows what it is and has heard of it, gives them a peace of mind.

planewreck 01-21-2007 09:29 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 

Originally Posted by BoosTedZSix
so stealerships have to tell you the car has or had a salvage title? even if you dont ask?

^^^yes they have to by law in cali, and if its been a rental. But if the title says clean title, its a clean title. No matter what carfucks says.

whiterice 01-22-2007 10:40 AM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
There was a special a few years ago on nbc I believe that shows the used car "underground" and how salvaged cars are transferred to certain states, inspected and given a clean title. They followed several cars damaged from a flood and how they eventually got top dollar for it. They also found people that bought some of these cars, had electrical problems, and ripped out the interior to show the water damage. very interesting show.
My brother recently bought a used car and I told him about carfax.
Every dealership in socal that he went to printed a carfax report for the cars he was interested in.
Carfax can be deceiving because of lack of reporting as some have stated.

AgentMurdoc 01-22-2007 04:56 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
state A: car

car gets flooded in state A

car is prevented from being registered in state A

car is sold to state B

state B can register car


There are a lot of bullshit loop holes.


planewreck 01-22-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 

Originally Posted by whiterice
There was a special a few years ago on nbc I believe that shows the used car "underground" and how salvaged cars are transferred to certain states, inspected and given a clean title. They followed several cars damaged from a flood and how they eventually got top dollar for it. They also found people that bought some of these cars, had electrical problems, and ripped out the interior to show the water damage. very interesting show.
My brother recently bought a used car and I told him about carfax.
Every dealership in socal that he went to printed a carfax report for the cars he was interested in.
Carfax can be deceiving because of lack of reporting as some have stated.

True most people dont report it. And the dealers you went to pulled it because they new the car you were looking at was ok thru carfucks.

The lot I use to run, i new everything about every car on the lot. If a window rolled up slow or a car was washed(as in title).

I will never work at a car dealership again, unless I own it.

ifly87 01-22-2007 10:21 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I believe that's there some states that if you title a car from another state with a bad title it won't transfer over. That's just a "heard" thing though.

I know for a fact thats true, I'm from wisconsin and say I had a salvaged title. I can "sell" that car to someone in minnesota and bam the title is clean, then they just "sell" it back.

I've never done it personally but I know it can be done with Minnesota for sure, not sure about any other states.

ZexRex2 01-22-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
well its not quite a clean title heres a carfax from a car i was looking at:

Report Run Date: 01/16/2007
VIN: WBADD6329V12BW065 1997 BMW 5-Series 528i

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
12/16/1996 CHARLOTTE, NC 10 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:773735963518118) REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/11/1997 ALPHARETTA, GA 8,500 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0000033222533) (Lien Reported)
12/01/1997 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
06/05/1998 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/11/1999 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/01/2000 GA 50,338 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
05/03/2000 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
04/02/2001 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
05/04/2001 GA State Agency REAR IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE SLIGHT DAMAGE REPORTED
02/25/2002 ALPHARETTA, GA 68,656 Independent Emission Source PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
03/01/2002 ALPHARETTA, GA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
08/20/2002 ATLANTA, GA Police Report ACCIDENT REPORTED
09/17/2002 GA 73,500 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:2070022609904) SALVAGE
11/05/2002 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0086727032) REBUILT/REBUILDABLE SALVAGE
12/04/2002 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL REBUILT/REBUILDABLE SALVAGE
02/19/2004 MIAMI, FL 97,681 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0086727032)
02/19/2004 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
02/19/2004 MIAMI, FL Motor Vehicle Dept. REBUILT/REBUILDABLE
11/22/2004 GLENDALE, AZ Independent Emission Source FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION
12/03/2004 GLENDALE, AZ 104,772 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:187M004338011)
12/03/2004 GLENDALE, AZ Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/03/2004 GLENDALE, AZ Motor Vehicle Dept. REBUILT/REBUILDABLE
12/03/2004 GLENDALE, AZ 105,000 Independent Emission Source FAILED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/08/2005 CA 107,331 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
01/19/2005 LA CANADA FLINTRIDGE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
01/19/2005 CA 107,782 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
01/29/2005 LA CANADA FLINTRIDGE, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
10/20/2005 CA 130,073 State Agency PASSED EMISSION INSPECTION
11/07/2005 CA 131,285 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
11/17/2005 ALHAMBRA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
11/27/2005 ALHAMBRA, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
07/19/2006 ROSEMEAD, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
07/29/2006 ROSEMEAD, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE
09/12/2006 CA 133,189 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
09/15/2006 FAIRFIELD, CA Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE SALVAGE

ZexRex2 01-24-2007 02:15 AM

Re: Salvage title question, is carfax wrong
 
oh yea and dont buy a salvage title car that hasnt been re titled as salvage rebuildable, b/c you have to get a gay ass "salvage title inspection". every part you replace has to be verified that its not stolen if its worth over $500 or is the engine trans, or frame, the law varies state to state.

heres the one for wi: http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/statepa...vage-title.htm



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