RX-7 anyone?
#41
Re:RX-7 anyone?
Originally Posted by AbaZ
What was the problem? well like every turbo 13b they break apex seals.
#42
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I have owned 2 rx7's and loved every minute of driving them. With no clutch on the fan it sounded like a jet taking off all the time and boy could they corner.
#43
Re:RX-7 anyone?
Originally Posted by Spenser
Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
What on earth are you talking about? My neighbor has an 89 RX-7 (NA) and it kicks everyone's *** around here. The only kid I know who has beaten him had a hella modified 99 Civic Si (Rich kid with virtually no limit on money). He's putting the turbo RX-7 engine in soon, and my sis's bf is sticking a small block chevy (400) in the RX-7 he just got. They're not even close to being shitty cars.
not to mention the stock injectors suck ***, absolute ***, they leak, they cause the rx-7 to flood, and with exhaust/intake/port you need bigger injectors.
all FC have a 3800 rpm stumble, they all flood, one ping and you blow your apex seals, the elctrical systems in them are ------- retarded, they get HORRIBLE HORRIBLE gas milage, are expensive to mod, they overheat like crazy, you need a full standalone to do anything, top mount intercoolers suck ***, and the oil squirters in them are even more gay so if you want them to last in a high HP situation, you have to run premixed like in a 2 stroke. they handle like ----, are not easy to drift, and they are basicly heavy POS.
they basicly suck ***, I have never owned one but from what I've read on rx-7 club, and from what my geeky ricer friends have had happen to them, I am absolutely sure they suck ***.
also, The FCs are ugly as ----, the turbo 2 hood scoop ain't even in the middle of the hood, it just looks fucked up, also, you will not pick up chicks in one either, trust me.
Now people who put v8s in them, thats pretty pathetic if you ask me, they FC will handle like even more ---- with a V8, they will get better gas milage, be more reliable and pretty much be a better car then a stock FC, but you could have a way better/reliable car if you just stuck the motor in an old mustang/camaro/muscle car.
also, how can you say no when you have to fix an apex seal and 2 houres later you got the car runing.
also, the main reason people breal their fc,s is cus they dont fucken take care of it. like putting synthetic or ---- in them. stupid fuckeing idea.
#44
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Goto a honda board and ask if hondas are good. YES !!
Goto a buick board and ask if buicks are good. YES !!
Goto a yugo board and ask if yugos are good. YES !!
The point is that an "RX7 guy" is going to say they are great, while the other 95% of "non-rx7" guys are going to say," ummm, yea, they suck".
I say the 3S is a great car, but 98% of people that don't really know them are going to say " there kinda slow b/c they weigh so much".
My brother looked at a 3rd gen RX7 "back in the day". It was between the 95' Z28 and RX7... He got on the RX7 boards and all the dudes with 3rd gens said, " if it has more than 20K miles on it, plan to get it rebuild or have a spare engine waiting to swap into it", and he/we took that as a pretty good sign of the car's reliablity.
Here's my rules of rotary.
#1 if its N/A its pretty slow.
#2 if its turbo its gonna break.
#3 Unless you speak spanish and live in Miami, its gonna cost a zillion dollars to fix b/c almost no one knows or gives a crap about 20K mile rotarys.
On a side note. The 3rd gen RX7 is my favorite looking mid-90's turbo car, and I own a TT Stealth !!! Too bad its got a tractor motor in it !! Ummmmm, supra motor in a Rx-7, ummm, JUST LIKE THAT !!! Ummmm.
As you can tell, I'm "anti-rotary" as well, but what do I know..?? Turbo civics, Sr20 turbo engine swap, 2 buick regal GN swaps, TT stealth R/T with 500hp, 3000GT VR4 that ran 12.5 in 85* heat, and a few 300whp DSMs are all great cars and I've worked on them all...
I wouldn't waste a day on a rotary...
Goto a buick board and ask if buicks are good. YES !!
Goto a yugo board and ask if yugos are good. YES !!
The point is that an "RX7 guy" is going to say they are great, while the other 95% of "non-rx7" guys are going to say," ummm, yea, they suck".
I say the 3S is a great car, but 98% of people that don't really know them are going to say " there kinda slow b/c they weigh so much".
My brother looked at a 3rd gen RX7 "back in the day". It was between the 95' Z28 and RX7... He got on the RX7 boards and all the dudes with 3rd gens said, " if it has more than 20K miles on it, plan to get it rebuild or have a spare engine waiting to swap into it", and he/we took that as a pretty good sign of the car's reliablity.
Here's my rules of rotary.
#1 if its N/A its pretty slow.
#2 if its turbo its gonna break.
#3 Unless you speak spanish and live in Miami, its gonna cost a zillion dollars to fix b/c almost no one knows or gives a crap about 20K mile rotarys.
On a side note. The 3rd gen RX7 is my favorite looking mid-90's turbo car, and I own a TT Stealth !!! Too bad its got a tractor motor in it !! Ummmmm, supra motor in a Rx-7, ummm, JUST LIKE THAT !!! Ummmm.
As you can tell, I'm "anti-rotary" as well, but what do I know..?? Turbo civics, Sr20 turbo engine swap, 2 buick regal GN swaps, TT stealth R/T with 500hp, 3000GT VR4 that ran 12.5 in 85* heat, and a few 300whp DSMs are all great cars and I've worked on them all...
I wouldn't waste a day on a rotary...
#45
Re:RX-7 anyone?
the 3rd gens have the worst rotaries in them.
most dont last more than 50k miles. but mine is going strong at 180kmiles on it and its an na. plus, boosted ones dont break that much if you klnopw how to properly break them in.
most dont last more than 50k miles. but mine is going strong at 180kmiles on it and its an na. plus, boosted ones dont break that much if you klnopw how to properly break them in.
#46
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Re:RX-7 anyone?
the best way to build a winkle is to take a rail road spike and drive it though the block with a sledge hammer
#48
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heh. also, they run pig rich from the lot. thats wqhy they guxxle fuel. i heard that if you simply tune it, you gain liuke 20 magical hp from onbe that is stock. i have seen the dyno numbers. very impressive. his rx7 was an 87 gxl and he simpl put an afc on it and tuned it.
#49
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It all boils down to R&D. Piston engines receive much more research because numerous companies develop them, some with practically unlimited budgets. Rotaries are developed and produced by Mazda's broke ***. They do the best they can. I feel it's a superior design that still has lots of room for improvement. Three moving parts guys, and they don't change direction. When you boost them without proper modifications you run in to trouble. They are touchy if you don't keep them happy with lots of fuel.
One of the main issues is the apex seal materials. Detonation destroys them, which in turn can trash your rotors and housings, along with the turbocharger if so equipped.
I have two rx7's, a 95 and an 85. The 95 has given me absolutely no trouble in the 39,000 miles I have put on it since new. The car is currently getting a rebuild simply because I wish to give it an extreme port job and single turbo conversion. The 85 I bought with 147,000 miles. The engine had a bad coolant seal and needed a rebuild. The internals were in great shape. I could have slapped in new coolant seals, oil seals, front and rear main seals, etc. and been right back in business for a couple hundred bucks but I decided to mod this one as well. It's getting a peripheral port, which is when you block off the stock intake ports (located in the iron housings) and bore holes in the aluminum rotor housings. If properly done this can yield 270-290 hp naturally aspirated if the appropriate fuel and exhaust upgrades are performed. I should be able to crank this engine to around 11,000 rpm's and it should last with no issues since I did things properly. Not bad for a 1.2 liter.
Spenser can trash them all he wants. Who cares. He probably had his *** handed to him by a few. I'm waiting for the day Mazda produces a n/a 4 rotor supercar (along the lines of the 787b)with in the neighborhood of 700hp and 600 lb/ft torque.
And where in the hell did you get the idea they are heavy? I think my 95 (loaded with leather and all that crap) is around 2750lbs and the 85 is around 2500 or so tops! They are a purists sports car. If you can't afford the upkeep on one and don't know how to maintain them you certainly shouldn't own one. Now shut up and go change your timing belt!
One of the main issues is the apex seal materials. Detonation destroys them, which in turn can trash your rotors and housings, along with the turbocharger if so equipped.
I have two rx7's, a 95 and an 85. The 95 has given me absolutely no trouble in the 39,000 miles I have put on it since new. The car is currently getting a rebuild simply because I wish to give it an extreme port job and single turbo conversion. The 85 I bought with 147,000 miles. The engine had a bad coolant seal and needed a rebuild. The internals were in great shape. I could have slapped in new coolant seals, oil seals, front and rear main seals, etc. and been right back in business for a couple hundred bucks but I decided to mod this one as well. It's getting a peripheral port, which is when you block off the stock intake ports (located in the iron housings) and bore holes in the aluminum rotor housings. If properly done this can yield 270-290 hp naturally aspirated if the appropriate fuel and exhaust upgrades are performed. I should be able to crank this engine to around 11,000 rpm's and it should last with no issues since I did things properly. Not bad for a 1.2 liter.
Spenser can trash them all he wants. Who cares. He probably had his *** handed to him by a few. I'm waiting for the day Mazda produces a n/a 4 rotor supercar (along the lines of the 787b)with in the neighborhood of 700hp and 600 lb/ft torque.
And where in the hell did you get the idea they are heavy? I think my 95 (loaded with leather and all that crap) is around 2750lbs and the 85 is around 2500 or so tops! They are a purists sports car. If you can't afford the upkeep on one and don't know how to maintain them you certainly shouldn't own one. Now shut up and go change your timing belt!
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