MikeJ-2009

Frank, I know this might be hard having uncle sam as your care taker, but let me see if I can help you.

He opposes abortion because the constitution declares a right to life.....your life, mine, a baby ect... It says nothing else. Nowhere will you find an abortion right. Hey, I think democrats should kill thier kids too, and overall, you should have the first 3 months as a window IMO. But his opposition is because of the constitution itself, and he would definately leave it for individual states to decide, which they would, and you'd still get to kill your kids.

I'm not sure how you thought supporting capitol punishement means the government is gonna kill you, or me, but really, we should be offing death penalty getters in record numbers, instead of the 30 year appeals they get, and instead of us paying for them to live for those 30 years.

If you believed in free trade, why do you need a roadblock like NAFTA or WTO? It's free trade. Me, giving you an amount we agree on, for a given item. Where's the third party needed? It's not, much like many government, and international government hurdles.

Hey frank, there's 5 indians in a village. They all work, and buy ---- from each other with thier earnings. Why would the tribe council need to take 50% of thier income? Free markets support themselves, and government income is a halt in the flow of money in our economy. As 5 indians would say, ---- your income tax, we'll support ourselves. Yes, this would also mean less government spending on bullshit (less income has to = less spending) (you'd think). The spending of the government issue will be addressed two paragraphs down.

Frank, you might have noticed, but the war on drugs is a losing effort, except we're still paying the "war on drugs" price. Special government agencies (DEA, ect..) are created, and if you really think about it, the federal government isn't doing ---- in your town (yeah, I know you're in Japan, ya ----) to halt drug use. I'm not sure how the federal government has a war on drugs, yet an open border to help it survive. The only people who can stop drug use and all drug related ish is your state government and whatever laws they want to establish. Remember, the states were supposed to be independant of the big bad federal government. If someone WANTED the border closed, it would have been. Ask the guards at Area 51 if they had any intruders. And the bottom line is, you can't have an open border and a war on drugs, unless you're trying to milk the people with government agencies (war on drugs) or dominate the world by starting the NAU (open borders)

If the constitution says the states decide thier own fate, then you have to leave it to them to decide wether they want a bunch of homos running around. Hey, I make rap songs about hating gays, but if the constitution says it, I'd rather do that.

Foriegn aid/intervention...... Basically, we either own the whole world, or we don't. We can't support every nation, poor person, starving noglet in Africa if we tried, so why do we waste so much money trying? Why do we have military bases in 50 countries, yet we'd kill a mufucka if another country tried to settle a base here? Does that strike you as odd? Our intervention throughout history has only proven to hurt us in the future. We support Bin Laden when we need him to fight someone for us, but then he's the ultimate devil trying to use (our) weapons that we gave him to take us out?? Does that make sense?
Our influence around the world is that we like to have our noses in everybodys ---- (except darfur, but they don't have anything to offer us anyhow, and I'm glad we aren't). People don't like that, and the sand nogs don't REALLY hate us because we're free and we respect women and all that, they don't like us because they see our 50 bases around the world and they know why we're there. If another country was in America telling us they were the liberators, yet public opinion (powered by media, ect) convinced us that they were up to no good, could you see yourself shooting at em? I could, and flip that ---- around and take it across the globe, and you have Iraq. If we can't teach you to fish (live freely), we aren't gonna sit here and give you fish forever. If saddam killed all his people, who gives a flying ----? North Korea says they have a nuke, and Iran says they're building one. Are we there? No. Should we be there? No. Do you think all these countries are talking ---- because they think if they don't show "muscle" we'll be there next? Who knows.
In the end, I'm not going to my neighbors house to fix up his ----, when my house is on fire. ---- him. Tell the Japs that we're gonna play fair now and let them start a base on our soil. lol. They're our allies, but it's not gonna happen, so WTF are you doing in Japan, really?

Nato and the UN-
1) How much does it cost taxpayers to be a part of this group?
2) Why would we need any foriegners to tell us how to run our shop?
3) Google food for oil, and tell me the UN should be anything other than gone.

Schools- OMG Frank, Ca schools are FAAAR superior to MN schools, and I'm having a tough time making it. lol. Really, schools vary anywhere you go, so I'm not giving much thought to your argument. This is another States rights>Federal rights. The monopoly on schools is so far gone it's almost worthless anyway, but we might as well get it back down to a states right to run schools rather than a federal right, and maybe, just maybe one day we'll get it down to parents' rights. You know, take the 10K the government spends on the teachers unions and see what private school has to offer for 7K. Saving money + Better education = no more monopoly, secured paychecks, teachers unions paying off politicians to secure the union/monopoly. I'm sure you're getting it by now.


Now, I know in the past I've come across as a Random Strike Republican, hating everything democrat/socialist. And I still do, but at some point you have to be able to see both sides of something, and decide which one is better in the long term for the country. I don't think endless spending, endless wars and endless influence around the world are going to get us very far. I'd rather stay home, keep my money, live my life, and not worry about child rapists and illegals running around in the streets while Josh Ross's dad is locked up for selling some weed. Eat My Bozack.

SkunT

I agree with your first paragraph Steve, and I do like to look at all sides...and I have tried to stay on top of the politics as much as I can. I hope all of you other people who are gonna vote in this election do/are doing the same.

I just cant see anything that Ron stands for, winning politics. What does he wanna do that would really do anything. Tell people they can't have abortion? Tell people they can smoke weed/get high? Get rid of income tax's? Pull out of NATO? Become on the defensive again? Sit back and wait?

He just sorta seems like some doushe that got pulled off the streets and threw into all of the politics/Presidential race. Like Ross

My wife is a teacher. She has hot teacher friends. I am friends with people who are on administration level school boards. Allowing the govt to set a standard and letting the states set standards from that is what people wanna hear...

---- the UN/NATO? You been in real world combat with a NATO force? You worked with NATO countries first hand?
...no, but you heard about it on a youtube video, or some one sided TV program....

Jorsher

listen to stealthmode kids, he has the mufuckin 5 black stars, remember?

I disagree with ron paul on some of the stuff. Abortion I think should be legal. In most cases, the people that would have an abortion would use gov't money to raise the child and probably be unable to properly raise the kid anyway.

Oh yeah, ---- WTO and bush has already practically said ---- the UN.

Not all his opinions are the same as mine, but he's the only candidate I know of that seems to be behind his word. Look at the stuff stealthmode just posted. What other candidates could say the same?

QikEnuF

Does he support NAMBLA?

Dr.Boost

Have you?


This just proves I don't watch enough TV. I have never heard of any of these people.
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J-SMITH69

i like ron paul on almost everything except he is absurdly naive on the war on terror. as if us removing our troops and bases from around the world will make us anything but horribly vulnerable.

isolationism has been proven not to work. and it leads to world wars where millions of people die.

btw... F the UN. NATO is not as bad. but still F NATO.

we support those losers and they hate us for it. the UN is a wannabe world wide government.

sexyblackcrx

Good points mang you could be a debater

MikeJ-2009

Frank, I'm glad you're taking an interest, which is further than most get to before they go and vote. I'm seeing alot of the black or white arguments that we've come to love in your arguments. Because you're against the "war on drugs" doesn't mean you want everyone high, it means it's a bullshit cause that :ooks around:: isn't amounting to ----.
The founders of the constitution never wanted the government to have 50% of your earnings, so killing the IRS is a good thing. How did the country survive before the income tax? Well, just fine. They built a white house to boot.
UN & Nato ain't got ---- on our guys/technology. So then, why should we enforce a UN resolution (Iraq) that they aren't willing to pull the trigger on first? With the baddest military on Earth, we'll go in on missions with other countries when we need to, but in reality, it's every country for itself. We don't need them, and they aren't ---- without us. Who's in control here?


Hold on, so you want your local school district to conform to rules set by the state government, who gets thier orders from the federal government? Can the state government not handle educating people? The federal government should never, and can never micro manage stuff happening in your community efficiently. It just can't happen. Try: no child left behind.


Frank, I'm not trying to get on your case, and I still need that jdm spoiler sent to me. lol. I think for a long time people have had the same "it doesn't make a difference anyway" attitude, and being a recent convert I may be able to make some arguments with you and have people just kinda think "hey, WTF are we doing here?" Because collectively, we're all supposed to run this bitch anyway.

MikeJ-2009

If our FBI and CIA were doing the exact job they were hired to do, I'd be interested in finding out how our troops in a shithole like Iraq could make a ---- of a difference. Yeah, I've heard the "It'll be a hotbed for homemadeterrorism when we leave" argument, but the truth is, terrorists living today are terrorists, or they're not, and they definately live somewhere right now. The perception of us invading Iraq only to leave early would create more terrorists that hate us, but what are we gonna do about that now that the Iraqi government is on a month long vacation? This goes along with the rest of our percieved influence, so Iraq by itself isn't going to mean ---- anyway. Would it matter if terrorists met in Iraq, or does it mean anything different that they're gathered in Iran or Pakistan, or wherever the ---- they want? ----, it's estimated that we have terrorist cells here in America. WTF would Iraq have to do with ----, unless we were protecting our oil source, which then, I could understand? That's not the argument I'm hearing though.
Horribly Vulnerable has more to do with an open border and federal and state authorities being to chicken ---- to enforce the laws we already have. Frank, sitting in Japan tonight doesn't make us more or less vulnerable to anything. If we protect ourselves first, borders, CIA and FBI for international ----, local and state authorities deporting people, who's gonna touch us?