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Sak 03-14-2006 12:19 AM

red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
New to the site, and I was driving on I5 north I think around lynnwood area, and I ran into a 5.0.

I pass him slowly thinking nothing of it, me and my buddie were going back out here to monroe. I thought eh its a young driver, 5.0 he prolly thinks hes the ----...

so I slow down thinking of passed experiences with mustang owners cocky, and assholes.

I spooled to about 5psi and let off to let him know...and next thing I know this 5.0 dirty as ----, bone ass stock looking, spools up and blows off. I'm like wtf?!?! I give the guy thumbs up for turboing his car. I have lots of respect for forced induction cars, and I downshift to third, and he lays into it and pulls on me. BTW I was only running 11psi because I cant ------- figure out where a leak is, or why It wont boost over 11, with a evo 3 16g ported and FMIC 660s yada yada yada, so I woulda been right with him at my goal of 22psi once I find my leak. I get back up next to him and he gives me a thumbs down. Pissed me off, but I let it go, and once again gave him a thumbs up and off I went. as he cruise by in rush hour traffic I was like sick car bro, and saw homemadeturbo.com on his window and wanted to know wtf setup he was running, well here I am and I'm hoping the 5.0 owner will respond, and hook it up with contact info to chat a bit.

Long enough post, just though Id introduce myself and let you guys know the work you have done to some of these cars I highly respect.

-Zak

Tom-Guy 03-14-2006 12:25 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Sak
BTW I was only running 11psi because I cant ------- figure out where a leak is, or why It wont boost over 11, with a evo 3 16g ported and FMIC 660s yada yada yada, so I woulda been right with him at my goal of 22psi once I find my leak.

No, Zak, my best friend has an Eclipse with an Evo3 16G, and you are no match for a boosted 5.0 on single digit boost. 1) your turbo is too small and incapable of supporting any sort of power 2) you weigh more than the 5.0 while having less power and 3) you are crippled by AWD drivetrain losses.

PS, it's tradition for n00bs to get flamed here. Best put on your asbestos underwear, son, because I just told you the truth and in no way flamed you... the worst is yet to come!


Donald125 03-14-2006 12:26 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
could it be Johnny? LOL

Tom-Guy 03-14-2006 12:29 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
Did the 5.0 in question look like this?

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/st_av.jpg

;D

Sak 03-14-2006 12:31 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
werd, I know he woulda aten me alive from a roll I'm not doubting at all. I give the guy much respect. Flame all you want I get it all the time on my home forums site...www.forums.posdsm.com.


This IS my first car, and I'm doing what I can for my first car, so I'm not claiming to run 11s.

Johnny - Why the thumbs down though? Whatever, just though I woulda seen what the 5.0 had.

Awsome ---- though!

Sak 03-14-2006 12:32 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Did the 5.0 in question look like this?

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/st_av.jpg

;D

HAHAHAHA
yes.

oh and we have the same last name BTW.
Davis FTW.

Anubis_4_99 03-14-2006 12:33 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
he didnt say he was AWD, there are FWD turbo models

and to the poster, if your on stock internals i wouldnt suggest 22psi.. go with 18, you'll be happy enough, i ran 21 in mine but that was because i didnt care if it blew or not.. surpriseingly it survived me beating on it every day for 4 months, then a new owner for almost a year before it blew

but you do seem to be somewhat ontop of fuel management at least so yours may fair better then mine did, i had no fuel mods

Sak 03-14-2006 12:38 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
he didnt say he was AWD, there are FWD turbo models

and to the poster, if your on stock internals i wouldnt suggest 22psi.. go with 18, you'll be happy enough, i ran 21 in mine but that was because i didnt care if it blew or not.. surpriseingly it survived me beating on it every day for 4 months, then a new owner for almost a year before it blew

but you do seem to be somewhat ontop of fuel management at least so yours may fair better then mine did, i had no fuel mods

Are you ------- kidding me?

you were knocking like a bitch.
did you have a logger?

I dont have mine yet and I really dont care about boost right now til I know I can safley run 22psi on my mods.

660s/255/afc
maf/maft
ssqv
E316g
act 2600
fluidyne radiator
Dejon tool IC/piping
6 bolt swap in the 93 GSX with the 4 bolt rear and 93 "big brakes"

J-SMITH69 03-14-2006 12:39 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
Hey, thats was me. i didnt give you the thumbs down on purpose i meant the thumbs the first time. that was my bad

welcome to the site 8)

i was running about 6psi

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss.../mustang90.jpg


Anubis_4_99 03-14-2006 12:45 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Sak
Are you ------- kidding me?

you were knocking like a bitch.
did you have a logger?

I dont have mine yet and I really dont care about boost right now til I know I can safley run 22psi on my mods.

660s/255/afc
maf/maft
ssqv
E316g
act 2600
fluidyne radiator
Dejon tool IC/piping
6 bolt swap in the 93 GSX with the 4 bolt rear and 93 "big brakes"

i wasnt knocking almost at all actualy, i had a logger and kept it on all the time, i was running a little lean up top though, that car was fun as ----

its on my car-domain page, number 11 if ya wanna check it out, didnt get too many pics while i owned it for some reason, too lazy i guess

nice setup by the way, got any pics of your car?

Tom-Guy 03-14-2006 12:45 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
he didnt say he was AWD, there are FWD turbo models

Yes, and I've seen one FWD DSM stepped on vs 193287.238473839X10^17 AWD models.


Originally Posted by Anubis_4_99
and to the poster, if your on stock internals i wouldnt suggest 22psi.. go with 18, you'll be happy enough, i ran 21 in mine but that was because i didnt care if it blew or not.. surpriseingly it survived me beating on it every day for 4 months, then a new owner for almost a year before it blew

Building a (1G) 4G63 is the most assinine suggestion I've ever heard. GVR-4 #366/2000 runs 30-whatsis psi on a stock 160K mile bottom end, and has done so with total impunity for the last 15K miles. T04E .60 trim slipped into a Mitsu turbine housing, 880cc injectors, keydiver ECU, GM MAF-T, 2.5-3" stainless IC pipe, HKS cams and Evo8 sodium filled valves (that ---- is mad cheap), huge FMIC. I don't know how much boost it runs, and no one really does... it hits 25 psi in 1st gear, taps the peg on or about the 32 psi mark for a moment in 2nd, and stays solid against the peg in 3rd-5th. Best 1/8th is 7.6@92 mph with traction problems. Car is ungutted, and pristine in every way. All hail Exxon 110 octane.

Kinda funny, the 160K bottom end was put in to make it to a race while waiting for bearings for a built shortblock, they decided not to yank it until it blew. It hasn't, been about 9 months now. The transfer case is another miracle item, they change the lube in it every oil change (1500 miles) and it's lube is laced with metallic glitter... yet... it... will... not... die.




Sak 03-14-2006 12:47 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
Hey, thats was me. i didnt give you the thumbs down on purpose i meant the thumbs the first time. that was my bad

welcome to the site 8)

i was running about 6psi

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss.../mustang90.jpg


Thanks bro!
Lots of respect witht he car, our cars were dirty as hell, and I felt like an idiot with only 11 psi barely pulling, but that fucker sounded nice, RFL?
Believe it or not, I almost got a black 5.0 exactly like yours and Iw as planning on doing an all motor track -----.
My dad had a 71 vega crammed with a 350, and running 9's has alot of experience with big motors

But I cant afford the damn gas, this is actually the first time I got to drive my car running WELL.
and I'm still getting used to the act, so I knew you were going to walk all over me like a stock civic vs a supra.

whats your aim?

Anubis_4_99 03-14-2006 12:50 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yes, and I've seen one FWD DSM stepped on vs 193287.238473839X10^17 AWD models.

Building a (1G) 4G63 is the most assinine suggestion I've ever heard. GVR-4 #366/2000 runs 30-whatsis psi on a stock 160K mile bottom end, and has done so with total impunity for the last 15K miles. T04E .60 trim slipped into a Mitsu turbine housing, 880cc injectors, keydiver ECU, GM MAF-T, 2.5-3" stainless IC pipe, HKS cams and Evo8 sodium filled valves (that ---- is mad cheap), huge FMIC. I don't know how much boost it runs, and no one really does... it hits 25 psi in 1st gear, taps the peg on or about the 32 psi mark for a moment in 2nd, and stays solid against the peg in 3rd-5th. Best 1/8th is 7.6@92 mph with traction problems. Car is ungutted, and pristine in every way. All hail Exxon 110 octane.

Kinda funny, the 160K bottom end was put in to make it to a race while waiting for bearings for a built shortblock, they decided not to yank it until it blew. It hasn't, been about 9 months now. The transfer case is another miracle item, they change the lube in it every oil change (1500 miles) and it's lube is laced with metallic glitter... yet... it... will... not... die.

eh i was just pointing out that he didnt mention he was AWD or FWD

i had the same thing with my transfer case, i thought the tranny would blow any day but it actuly held up surpriseingly well

J-SMITH69 03-14-2006 12:50 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
its a dsm bov. but when you cram a shitload of air through them they sound different. it blows off like 3 times at 6psi. it goes PSSSSSSH squeeek sqqueeeek too much air for i think.

ya i thought you were all stock with fart can by the way you caught up to me after i let off.

22psi should give it a kick in the pants though eh

FooK 03-14-2006 12:52 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
haha, good ---- johnny, you know you gave the thumbs down dont lie. :8

Sak 03-14-2006 12:55 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yes, and I've seen one FWD DSM stepped on vs 193287.238473839X10^17 AWD models.

Building a (1G) 4G63 is the most assinine suggestion I've ever heard. GVR-4 #366/2000 runs 30-whatsis psi on a stock 160K mile bottom end, and has done so with total impunity for the last 15K miles. T04E .60 trim slipped into a Mitsu turbine housing, 880cc injectors, keydiver ECU, GM MAF-T, 2.5-3" stainless IC pipe, HKS cams and Evo8 sodium filled valves (that ---- is mad cheap), huge FMIC. I don't know how much boost it runs, and no one really does... it hits 25 psi in 1st gear, taps the peg on or about the 32 psi mark for a moment in 2nd, and stays solid against the peg in 3rd-5th. Best 1/8th is 7.6@92 mph with traction problems. Car is ungutted, and pristine in every way. All hail Exxon 110 octane.

Kinda funny, the 160K bottom end was put in to make it to a race while waiting for bearings for a built shortblock, they decided not to yank it until it blew. It hasn't, been about 9 months now. The transfer case is another miracle item, they change the lube in it every oil change (1500 miles) and it's lube is laced with metallic glitter... yet... it... will... not... die.




Yes I do have pics, I can post if you wish.
HAHAHA I HAVE a GVR4 motor, I bought the 6 bolt from my friend that has a galant. hence the 6 bolt swap. has 130k on motor 175k on the car.

I have stock internals yes, and they are fine up to 400hp from what I've heard.
That galant sounds nice.
Visit www.ten-fifty-one.com 1051/2000
Galant runs 11's check out his site his Name is mark a friend of mine.
Whole underbody is flawlessly clean.

J-SMITH69 03-14-2006 12:56 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
also, about the gas mileage... dont get me started 8)

i get about 26-27 highway and 22-23 city 8)

yes my car is quite dirty its hard to keep it clean when it monsoons everyother day

Sak 03-14-2006 12:59 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
its a dsm bov. but when you cram a shitload of air through them they sound different. it blows off like 3 times at 6psi. it goes PSSSSSSH squeeek sqqueeeek too much air for i think.

ya i thought you were all stock with fart can by the way you caught up to me after i let off.

22psi should give it a kick in the pants though eh

hahahaha,
no I'm not stock, glad you thought that though, I like the sleeper mode better. Thats what I'm going for.

nah I had 3rd WO, full boost like cmon fucker! go go go.

good thing I saw the back window:-P

you gave me a thumbs down fucker:-P My buddie was like wtf that guys a faggot hahaha, hes like his car was ugly, I was like STFU dude have respect that was sleeper and a half, and BTW I have a hard on for turbo V8's.

Aim PLZ :)

hotrex 03-14-2006 01:00 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
both vehicles stated are homosexual. good day.

Sak 03-14-2006 01:02 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
both vehicles stated are homosexual. good day.

ORLY?
nice numbers. I'm hoping for 12s this summer ::)

FooK 03-14-2006 01:03 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 
well, hotrex is the leading authority on all things homosexual...

beaker 03-14-2006 01:07 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by FooK
well, hotrex is the leading authority on all things homosexual...

lol, further proof. look at hotrex's quote in fooks sig

Tom-Guy 03-14-2006 01:10 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
its a dsm bov. but when you cram a shitload of air through them they sound different. it blows off like 3 times at 6psi. it goes PSSSSSSH squeeek sqqueeeek too much air for i think.

The squeak is compressor surge. That is why the CRX gets two DSM BOVs, to vent extra air.


Originally Posted by Sak
HAHAHA I HAVE a GVR4 motor,

Red valvecover, y0!


Originally Posted by Sak
Visit www.ten-fifty-one.com 1051/2000
Galant runs 11's check out his site his Name is mark a friend of mine.
Whole underbody is flawlessly clean.

#366/2000 originally belonged to a guy in VA who owned 221 performance (I think that was it?), and Jeff bought it 3-4 years ago. It's not flawless, sadly, but it is damn nice and still very clean. Only DSM I unconditionally love!

Sak 03-14-2006 01:23 AM

Re: red 5.0 turbo vs DSM
 

Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
The squeak is compressor surge. That is why the CRX gets two DSM BOVs, to vent extra air.

Red valvecover, y0!

#366/2000 originally belonged to a guy in VA who owned 221 performance (I think that was it?), and Jeff bought it 3-4 years ago. It's not flawless, sadly, but it is damn nice and still very clean. Only DSM I unconditionally love!

nah, no red valve cover he wouldnt give it tome to keep for my own and paint black, so I have the 1g valve cover "16valve DOCH 2000" rather than "Misubishi DOHC 16 valve that I would shave off and leave the mistu logo and lettering on but the rest shaved, powdercoated and clean.


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