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96turboracer 06-30-2006 05:43 PM

Racially and Nationalistically challenged in the Northwest...
 
Just thought I'd post a few comments about growing up in the Northwest seems how quite a few of you on here are from there.

I grew up in a little town on the coast and there was no ethnic diversity whatsoever, I think there were two black families in the entire town. I was friends with one of them because they were the same religion as me, and it's funny to think about it now, but I never noticed how weird it must have been for them to be the one of the only African American people there. The kids didn't have too tough of a time though because being the only black kids in school there was a certain fasination with them, and that made them pretty popular.

Then I moved down to San Diego after I graduated, man that place is one giant melting pot of diversity, opened my Oregonian eyes up that's for sure.

I'll say this: You don't see as many mexicans down there as you'd think, Iranians are always pissed off because someone keeps telling them to buy old Dodge vans and they always break, so they're pissed. Plus their accents makes it extremely hard to tell what they're saying. You barely see any asian girls their because they all go to college and they're all studying. (Actually I think they were trying to get with all the rich guys, which of course are other asian guys) The black people down there are super chill and you don't run into many with attitudes unless you go to the ghettoish areas. and I know my limitations being a blond haired white boy. There are about 20,000,000 brazillians there, and these people are the funniest, most accepting people I've ever met in my life. My bro and I were living with 6 other Brazilians in a two bedroom place. The arab people mostly try not to be noticed since 9/11.

Being down there for a few years really made me kind of regret where I grew up, because with no diversity whatsoever beyond tons of mexicans working in lily fields, I had nothing to draw on about these people and their culture, and down there they interact so well together and barely anyone has a problem with someone else.

Not to say that some aren't dicks, but that has nothing to do with their nationality and everything to do with who they are as a person.

Oh yeah and if you aren't making 100k a year, don't expect any girls to look in your direction twice, they're all about the cash money down there.

Now I'm back in Central Oregon, and once again there's no diversity, and I'm getting sick of seeing a bunch of rednecks talking ignorantly about things they don't understand. I love Oregon and a lot of the things it offers, but sometimes I feel like it's about 30 years behind everyone else.

I guess I'll stop rambling now.

jdmvaaj 06-30-2006 05:48 PM

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i think more people need to have the same perception as you do.. maybe in anotherl ifetime huh..

McBoost 06-30-2006 06:15 PM

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Same here... from my high school I could count the number of non-white kids on 1 hand (school had like 800 people).

J-SMITH69 06-30-2006 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 96turboracer

Now I'm back in Central Oregon, and once again there's no diversity, and I'm getting sick of seeing a bunch of rednecks talking ignorantly about things they don't understand. I love Oregon and a lot of the things it offers, but sometimes I feel like it's about 30 years behind everyone else.

I guess I'll stop rambling now.

you're a racist. ---- you racist ignorant trash

96turboracer 06-30-2006 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
you're a racist. ---- you racist ignorant trash

;D ;D ;D

MikeJ-2009 06-30-2006 08:33 PM

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ahh, the news media has you feeling quilty about being white? The 2 african Americans in your school aren't special. They don't need to be felt sorry for. Remember, everybody's the same until you start refering to them by thier skin color.



Originally Posted by jdmvaaj
i think more people need to have the same perception as you do.. maybe in anotherl ifetime huh..

God I hope you're kidding.

96turboracer 06-30-2006 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
ahh, the news media has you feeling quilty about being white? The 2 african Americans in your school aren't special. They don't need to be felt sorry for.

Steve you need to read my posts more closely before you reply with that crap. I didn't feel bad for them because they were black, I felt bad because I know that if I were in a similar situation with all black kids, I might feel a little alone.

Hell I envied them! they got the hot chicks in school.

Besides which, the whole point of my post was to celebrate diversity, and I mean that through culture not the specific color of their skin

You might want to take another look at yourself and try to understand why you chose to read my post the way you did.


J-SMITH69 06-30-2006 09:26 PM

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celebrate diversity, the montra of a liberal mush brain

t3t5 06-30-2006 09:39 PM

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why do we need to celebrate any ethnical day? we are all human ------s just piss me off cuz they are annoying and black.

mike94se 06-30-2006 10:09 PM

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---- the British. They were genious to make ------s slaves ::)

Azns complain less :D

Tatakai 06-30-2006 11:00 PM

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you have no right to speak for/about the northwest.

i live in seattle, and its pretty ------- diverse. there's 2 highschools in the seattle school district (out of like 8 or 9) that are more colored students than white, and half of the other schools are only just over 50% white. i've got friends whose parents are from countries you've only heard of that one time in social studies.

there's even parts of this giant city that are primarily other races. southpark is hella mexicans, a lot of the signs are in spanish, highland park and delridge has a lot of asians and black, white center is full of asians and mexicans, northend and alki are probably the only areas that are mostly white.

not trying to like.. sound mean or anything, or trying to proove that seattle is hella mega diverse, im just saying its not as white as OREGON..

MikeJ-2009 06-30-2006 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 96turboracer
I didn't feel bad for them because they were black, I felt bad because I know that if I were in a similar situation with all black kids, I might feel a little alone.

Wait. You don't feel sorry for them because they are black, you just understand what it might be like if you were "with all black kids" (because you aren't one of them). How does that not go back to the color of thier skin?
YOU might want to read what you wrote again. Empathize with me the way you do the black kids. You don't sound like you're praising diversity as much as you are bashing all white areas for not being diverse. :-\
On another note, I had 2 black kids (early 20's) working for my painting company. They both grew up in Idaho, and they were probably the most respectable blacks I've met. I've got money that the 2 black guys you grew up with in Oregon had a better chance in society than most blacks in black area's. If you're just making a point of how you like urban areas better than rural, than that's a different subject.

BeastBass 06-30-2006 11:15 PM

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Oregon isn't all white - there are shitloads of mexicans and people from ALL over the planet live there to work for Intel

all in all, Oregon is pretty diverse whatever good that does,..

MikeJ-2009 06-30-2006 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Suckah
Oregon is pretty diverse whatever good that does,..

Don't worry, it doesn't amount to anything good. The most diverse place in the world (So Cal) is so diverse that everyone eventually lives in a city of thier own kind.
EX: Downey, Ca. (Used in a sentance)
"Downey is where all the mexicans live" or "Downey is fairly well known for "LP" (Los Padrinos), the juvenile prison where all the mexican kids go." Oddly enough, in the late 60's my mom grew up, lived, and went to high school in Downey, and now the only time we go there is to visit LSD Mike. lol :8

BeastBass 06-30-2006 11:33 PM

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of course it doesnt do any good

but then again without blacks we wouldn't have all sorts of music or mannerisms ::)

96turboracer 06-30-2006 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Wait. You don't feel sorry for them because they are black, you just understand what it might be like if you were "with all black kids" (because you aren't one of them). How does that not go back to the color of thier skin?
YOU might want to read what you wrote again. Empathize with me the way you do the black kids. You don't sound like you're praising diversity as much as you are bashing all white areas for not being diverse. :-\
On another note, I had 2 black kids (early 20's) working for my painting company. They both grew up in Idaho, and they were probably the most respectable blacks I've met. I've got money that the 2 black guys you grew up with in Oregon had a better chance in society than most blacks in black area's. If you're just making a point of how you like urban areas better than rural, than that's a different subject.

On the first note, say you went to school and all the other kids had parents, but you were an orphan, wouldn't you feel a little bit alone? because you were a little bit different? in this case the medium is their skin, although that's not specifically what I was referencing.

I think I am bashing white areas for not being diverse, mainly because it's my personal opinion that I'm a better person for experiencing this. My mistake is in thinking that other people share this exact view.

I absoloutely agree with your statement about the black kids having a better chance in society, why? because of their environment, they did not grow up poor, they had the opportunity to go to college and are both actually doing quite well.

On the last part, maybe I am saying that? I'm not sure exactly what the point of this post was in the first place, just some thoughts that came to my mind.

Also to point out, I'm not specifically focusing on black people here, they were simply the ONLY diversity in my small town. it could have just as well applied to any race or nationality.

although I will say that these kids had to deal with one thing that I never had to deal with. because it was a mainly retirement town that didn't have any diversity, the only exposure to black people these older folk had was through the media that convinced them they were all trying to steal anything worth money. That has to suck, anywhere you go people looking at you suspiciously.


Originally Posted by Tatakai
you have no right to speak for/about the northwest.

i live in seattle, and its pretty ------- diverse. there's 2 highschools in the seattle school district (out of like 8 or 9) that are more colored students than white, and half of the other schools are only just over 50% white. i've got friends whose parents are from countries you've only heard of that one time in social studies.

there's even parts of this giant city that are primarily other races. southpark is hella mexicans, a lot of the signs are in spanish, highland park and delridge has a lot of asians and black, white center is full of asians and mexicans, northend and alki are probably the only areas that are mostly white.

not trying to like.. sound mean or anything, or trying to proove that seattle is hella mega diverse, im just saying its not as white as OREGON..

Yeah that makes sense. Oregon is mainly the only experience I've had I haven't gone to Washington very much.

signorelli21 06-30-2006 11:43 PM

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this is a funny post, so basically you feel sorry for the black kids because they go to an all white school, or well you can empathize with them. i don't really see how someone can think that way.

i live in kansas city missouri, there are quite a few places where white people just are not welcome and frankly you will get your ass beat or shot for no reason other than the fact that you are in their hood, which is fine.
also if you were to have gone to school here in the city then you would be at a predominately black school, do you think that they would show you the same heartfelt compassion because your the only white kid at their school? no.

it bothers me when people talk about races of people like they are really that much different from themselves. i have lived and worked with a huge number of people from all over the world and have come to find that its more your enviroment and the influences around you that dictate what kind of person you will become, NOT the color of your skin.

i know and work with a few black people that are alot whiter than i am ( does that make sense?)

basically there would be no racism if people would stop talking about it, i mean why do i have to be a white man, or an indian or a black man, why can't we all just be americans?

Inquisition 06-30-2006 11:53 PM

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Since when is San Diego diverse? I mean more diverse than white America, sure, but seriously, in terms of a melting pot, not even close. I was there last January for about a week. I flew out of Newark airport and which is one of the largest international airports in the world and the amount of different people there compared to San Diego air port wasn't even comparable. Driving around San Diego I noticed two different types of people: white and Mexican, and believe me, white people out numbered the Mexicans.

96turboracer 07-01-2006 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Inquisition
Since when is San Diego diverse? I mean more diverse than white America, sure, but seriously, in terms of a melting pot, not even close. I was there last January for about a week. I flew out of Newark airport and which is one of the largest international airports in the world and the amount of different people there compared to San Diego air port wasn't even comparable. Driving around San Diego I noticed two different types of people: white and Mexican, and believe me, white people out numbered the Mexicans.

So because you spent a week in San Diego that makes you a qualified expert? makes sense ::)


Originally Posted by signorelli21
this is a funny post, so basically you feel sorry for the black kids because they go to an all white school, or well you can empathize with them. i don't really see how someone can think that way.

This is kind of hilarious, where are you people getting the idea that this post is about me feeling sorry for black people? Go back and re-read what i wrote, PLEASE.

MikeJ-2009 07-01-2006 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 96turboracer
On the first note, say you went to school and all the other kids had parents, but you were an orphan, wouldn't you feel a little bit alone? because you were a little bit different? in this case the medium is their skin, although that's not specifically what I was referencing.

Sorry to take this to the extreme, but the only difference between them and anyone else is their skin color. That was the difference you referenced. It's ok though, I'm just giving you a hard time. :)

I'm also of the believe that racism is confused with skin color, when it doesn't have anything to do with it. Say we have Colon Powell and DMX standing next to each other. One is a ------, and one is an American. The real point is how they conduct themselves, not thier skin color.
Plenty of black people have come up in the business world, government, ect. ect, as well as all other races. The only difference between those people and the people we call ------s, beaners, gooks, hick ass hillbilly rednecks, ect. is the way they act. I think race is only what we recognize because statistics tell us the truth and we sometimes forget to remember the 10% of the statistic (or whatever the actual number is)

Cliff notes: I'm a racist. >:D

mike94se 07-01-2006 01:50 AM

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Only thing there that is common in CA is all the ass------- :1

buk9tp 07-01-2006 01:58 AM

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i grew up all over california.. last place i lived in was irvine..

when i came to detroit. and saw interacial dating for the first time in my life. i swear. it was as if i was watching a guy getting it on with a horse :-X :X
talk about culture shock.. lol i was like WTF IS GOING ON HERE?? HOW THE ---- DOES A BLACK GUY DATE A WHIRE CHIC :1 oh.. thats normal ay?

ah the innocent days.. good times.. good times :P

salesmonkey 07-01-2006 03:13 AM

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i dont care... as long as ---- aint getting stolen from me. and they leave me alone i dont even care.

Sinner 07-01-2006 03:31 AM

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I wonder if the poorer people mix better. In my ghetto we have lots of diversity, On my short street we have just about every race, but arabic including two mixed couple with kids. Everyone is pretty friendly around here. There are two familys which might be hawaiian(ms) or maybe brazillian(ms). I donno, they dont speek good english. If you got two the nicer parts of town, it isnt like this.


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