Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
So I'm supposed to roll up Thursday and do the wiring for a ST205 WRC engine into a ST165 chassis. I have the ECU pinouts for both vehicles, but I'd really like a decent ECU to sensor wiring diagram - diagram of the EFI system by itself, preferrably with none of the chassis wiring to confuse the issue.
Someone else has gone through this vehicle and NOT completed the wiring, so I'm doubting my ability to fix it in one day... most likely I will have them replace all the ST165 wiring that I understand has been hacked on with an uncut harness, and roll back to fix it correctly and neatly next week. PS - anybody find the WRC anti-lag wiring info for me? ;) |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Someone else has gone through this vehicle and NOT completed the wiring
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Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
The customer is a shop, they know it is a basketcase. They aren't too happy with the guy who hacked the harness and left the car to sit.
Joey is not impressed. |
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Okay, rawr, you can live another day. I'll most likely kill you tomorrow.
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Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
why didnt you just say question for rawr?
or betteer yet, why didnt you just pm rawr ;) |
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There are a half dozen hardcore Toyota ----------ers on site, why make six posts when I can make one?
I'm famous for hitting four to five birds with one stone, Mohammed. |
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notreallywiggerbutnotquite------ pleaaaaaaaze we all knew who this thread was directed towards :-*
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Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
There are a half dozen hardcore Toyota ----------ers on site, why make six posts when I can make one?
I'm famous for hitting four to five birds with one stone, Mohammed. I refused to do it, that car's a mess But I guess if anyone can do it you can Joey. I'll help if I can but dont expect a miracle. ;) |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Yeah, I was a bit confused when I was told they were trying to fit the fuse box from some other car in it... I was like, uhm, wtf for? :l
My visit to the car tomorrow will probably consist of taking inventory, and then telling them to replace vehicle main harness with uncut ST165/162 harness, and then I'll come back and fab an engine harness and an adapter for the ST165 ECU plugs to mate with the ST205 ECU. It took me 5-6 hours to build the engine harness in the Civic from whole cloth, and that's not only a car I know like the back of my hand but a much easier one to work on. Not only do I lack time + inclination to try and build a whole car harness, but it's frankly a waste of money even if I was being paid McDonalds wages. A 5-9 hour job I can deal with,no biggie, and I don't particularly care if the job is unpleasant... all work is unpleasant. It's a simple fact of life. |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Yeah, I was a bit confused when I was told they were trying to fit the fuse box from some other car in it... I was like, uhm, wtf for? :l
My visit to the car tomorrow will probably consist of taking inventory, and then telling them to replace vehicle main harness with uncut ST165/162 harness, and then I'll come back and fab an engine harness and an adapter for the ST165 ECU plugs to mate with the ST205 ECU. It took me 5-6 hours to build the engine harness in the Civic from whole cloth, and that's not only a car I know like the back of my hand but a much easier one to work on. Not only do I lack time + inclination to try and build a whole car harness, but it's frankly a waste of money even if I was being paid McDonalds wages. A 5-9 hour job I can deal with,no biggie, and I don't particularly care if the job is unpleasant... all work is unpleasant. It's a simple fact of life. We can discuss more details about this later. |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Actually, Jim had it up and running when I got there.
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Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Actually, Jim had it up and running when I got there.
Better him than me I guess. Swing by the house if you get bored. |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
I probably will get bored, give the cell a call (check PMs).
Jim's plenty bright, he's basically me four years ago if I froke out about Toyotas, and I would be less than interested in creating a wiring harness out of thin air after what was in it had been either left to rot, hacked on, or thrown away so it can't be used for future referrence. I think the plan is to use an MR2 harness since they are pretty complete from ECU to engine, and then fix the chassis wiring harness, then tie both together where needed (gauges, rpm feed, etc.). |
Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
The only concern I really had was that if in the future for some reason if the car had some issues with electronics/sensors that needed to be diagnoised, that there would be massive headaches involved.
I looked at it afterwork yesterday, and it appears to be pretty straightforward. He did a decent job on it. I think if they can get that one ghetto ass wheel off, they're gonna bring it out this weekend. Should be interesting. :6 |
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Haha, there's a hell of a lot of work to get it ready to go out this weekend... they have engine wiring only, and I'm almost positive the rest of the harness is trash (no headlights, cooling fans, etc). Still, I'd like to see it roll if it does, it's a pretty cool car.
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Re: Question for you Toyota lovers... Celica All-Trac cross wiring BS
I was really close to trading my 86 for a ST165 but needed something with 4dr. But Jesus this car sounds like a rats nest.
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