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Old 02-06-2009, 11:39 AM
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I heard on the news this morning that he has been banned from competing for the next three months and Kellogg's has declined to renew there sponsorship deal with him.

That pic is now going to hurt.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Weed is more harmful than LSD.
Please expound.

Its a natural plant so of course you will get a little tar and resien while you smoke but I cant see how that would be more harmful than crudely made substance that alters Serotonin levels or recepters. Even thoguh the Gov did those LSD tests and such there isnt really a whole lot on how it effects your noggin that i know of.

I've always felt that the danger of LSD isnt so much the chemical itself as much as the reliability of getting Clean pure versions of it. To often its other chemicals or made in unclean unregulated environments. No dude trippin ***** has to "make" my weed lol, perhaps its just me but that idea makes me nervous.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Weed is more harmful than LSD.
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LSD is completely harmless assuming you don't cause any self harm.

Don't believe the propaganda :P

Weed isn't necessarily dangerous, except for the smoke inhalation. Other than that there's been studies that have "proven" and "disproven" it causes any other harm.

You can't argue that LSD is more dangerous because it may not be pure. Your weed may be sprayed with pesticides.

Consuming good LSD is completely harmless, and inhaling weed is not. Eating weed may be less harmless, but it can't be "less" harmful because LSD is harmless :P
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 97EconoBox
Please expound.

Its a natural plant so of course you will get a little tar and resien while you smoke but I cant see how that would be more harmful than crudely made substance that alters Serotonin levels or recepters. Even thoguh the Gov did those LSD tests and such there isnt really a whole lot on how it effects your noggin that i know of.
A very large percentage of the population suffers anxiety attacks from marijuana. Also, "a little tar and resin" is the #1 cause of cancer from cigarettes. See also: smoke inhalation in any medical text.

Marijuana alters receptors in the brain, actually it shuts them the ---- down. Less brain = less bright. ---- that.

LSD is just as natural as marijuana. People have been doing it for a looooong *** time, in fact July 14, 1789, was the date of the largest dosing in the history of mankind. Also, while the reaction is not complex it certainly isn't crude. The ---- is not made in bathtubs, and if you don't know what you are doing you aren't going to get (or hurt) anything for your efforts.


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I've always felt that the danger of LSD isnt so much the chemical itself as much as the reliability of getting Clean pure versions of it. To often its other chemicals or made in unclean unregulated environments.
LSD is one of the five psychoreactive drugs known to man that is effective on the microgram scale (the others are DOM, STP, methfentanyl, and I forget), therefore the contaminants in even "dirty" acid are ------- miniscule and has no effect on the human body or on the effect of the acid itself. You get more than a hundred micrograms of CANCER everytime you change oil, among other commonplace activities like inhaling tar from smoking ---- that's bad for you. I daresay a solid day of inhaling air in LA ingests more toxin.



Sadly, sir, proponents of marijuana are typically lazy from amotivational syndrome, and under educated. People whose lives were enriched by LSD (even if it's been over a decade ago, like me) are quite erudite on the topics of the drugs the do or criticize, and a briad base of other subjects as well.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:44 PM
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Good points and a swell explaination from both of you as I would expect lol. What you say makes sense and to be honest Ive never heard of Pot and the pleasure receptor deal JD speaks of, i learned something. I suppose most of it makes sense and i think Josher got what i ment by more dangerous. I was really talking about the likely hood you will get good acid and not something some 14 year old read up on how to create it in darkrooms off the interwebs or someshit. I mean i actually went to school with a guy who sprayed a sheet of blank blotter with RAID and sold it. Im pretty postive no one got like sick from it but kids do dumbshit and he did sell the entire sheet. I did it tiwce and Nothing was liek the first time, the other 2 were much less predictable and left me with more of an anxiaty than a shroom type

On the receptors bit though, LD does the same thing just different receptors. perhaps in different ways or something? Im getting that it binds to receptors in yoru noggin, i would assume pot does the same thing so is it different recpetors or does it effect them in different ways since obviously its a different chemical.

LSD affects a large number of the G protein coupled receptors, including all dopamine receptor subtypes, all adrenoreceptor subtypes as well as many others. LSD binds to most serotonin receptor subtypes except for 5-HT3 and 5-HT4. However, most of these receptors are affected at too low affinity to be activated by the brain concentration of approximate 10–20 nM.[
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:02 PM
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Yeah they both touch/close receptors.

I don't know if pot does it permanently, I wouldn't assume so. LSD and other tryptamines like psilocybin are safe and haven't read anything stating they cause permanent damage to receptors. They just interact, and eventually they'll open back up.

For example: If I trip on mushrooms, unless I wait a few days, the effects won't be as strong, and at least with my experiences I wouldn't even trip unless I waited days.
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Old 02-17-2009, 01:14 PM
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Ahaha

They aren't pressing charges due to lack of evidence.

They said that he apologized for his "inappropriate behavior" but never specifically stated (confessed) it was marijuana.
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Old 02-17-2009, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rawr
I'm not quite sure how smoking pot makes him a worse person in this case.
Frank seems like a good dude but moral crusading jarheads make me sick.
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