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myshtern 01-08-2006 09:09 PM

Paint Jobs
 
Where can I find some good instructions, how-tos, and overall knowledge on paint and how to properly paint cars?

Darkelvis 01-08-2006 09:13 PM

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http://www.autobody101.com/

MikeJ-2009 01-08-2006 09:28 PM

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Autobody101 is probably the best site I've found, but there are some good short vids on doing bodywork on http://www.paintucation.com/

myshtern 01-08-2006 09:33 PM

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I want to buy his video Paint Your Own Car, but that ---- isnt worth $40.
Has anyone bought this video?

HMT-Admin 01-08-2006 09:39 PM

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http://www.jonesimages.com/elements/...pray_paint.jpg

All the directions are on the back of the can :8

SpankedYA! 01-08-2006 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by myshtern
I want to buy his video Paint Your Own Car, but that ---- isnt worth $40.
Has anyone bought this video?

I have that book.

88dx 01-08-2006 09:47 PM

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spray paint works ok but the rollers work alot better :y No prep work just roll 8)

intruder1_92TT 01-09-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AbaZ
http://www.jonesimages.com/elements/...pray_paint.jpg

All the directions are on the back of the can :8

BAHAHAHAHA!!!

If you do paint your car, remember to get a good spray gun, use good paint, make sure you have a big ass compressor, and remember these three words: Prep, prep, prep. The more work you do in the prep stage, the better it will turn out. "When you think you're done prepping, you're about half way there".

I learned a few of these truths the hard way.

70Challenger 01-09-2006 06:59 PM

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visit your local public library *cue puplic announcement music*

Paul99EX 01-09-2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AbaZ
http://www.jonesimages.com/elements/...pray_paint.jpg

All the directions are on the back of the can :8

hahaha :8 style

MikeJ-2009 01-09-2006 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 70Challenger
visit your local public library *cue puplic announcement music*


haha, I actually did this today. I found a couple books on the subject. Most of them very dated with minimum pictures (not my reading style). I ended up getting "Pro paint and body" by Jim Richardson (2002) and the monster garage "how to custom paint damn near anything" (2004) that won't really be applied to the stealth shuttle but should show some cool techniques to keep the mind thinking.

Slo_crx1 01-09-2006 07:46 PM

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Paintwork is 90% prep...spraying is the easy part...it's the prep work that sux ass. I've even spray-canned a few cars just for the hell of it, and if the prep work is done right, most people couldn't even tell. I can honestly say that you will never do as much sanding in your life as you will getting a car ready for paint. :P

djfob 01-09-2006 08:23 PM

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http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqpnt.htm

http://www.autobody101.com/forums/

myshtern 01-09-2006 09:02 PM

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Is it possible to make a high quality paint job without a paint booth?
How so?


knife 01-09-2006 09:13 PM

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it is possile. I've seen it done and I'm a bodyman/painter. its all air circulation and the direction of that air. ohh not to mention where you windows are at in your garage. you want to seriously clean you garage b4 you start painting. you dont want dust off the floor to get on your paint. 2nd you want to set up fans lightly blowing down and i mean lightly. then put fan blowing across the car. from the front slightly angled down. this fan setup will blow and away and push down all the overspray. they call this a crossdown draft. its the best for garage setup. oohh leave the garage door open a crack so it pulls air out. and dont spray the whole car at once. keeps down on overspray.

knife 01-09-2006 09:14 PM

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and like everyone said prepwork prepwork

myshtern 01-09-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by knife
it is possile. I've seen it done and I'm a bodyman/painter. its all air circulation and the direction of that air. ohh not to mention where you windows are at in your garage. you want to seriously clean you garage b4 you start painting. you dont want dust off the floor to get on your paint. 2nd you want to set up fans lightly blowing down and i mean lightly. then put fan blowing across the car. from the front slightly angled down. this fan setup will blow and away and push down all the overspray. they call this a crossdown draft. its the best for garage setup. oohh leave the garage door open a crack so it pulls air out. and dont spray the whole car at once. keeps down on overspray.

impossible

crxrx7 01-09-2006 09:22 PM

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Yes you can have a high quaility paint job without a paint booth. I paint all the time in my garage and always comes out nice. The trick is to install lots of florecent lights in the garage. In my last garage I had eight of them so it was super bright and I could see what I was doing. And AWAYS WEAR A MASK!!! Just be sure that the ceiling is dirt free and you put water on the floor. This keeps dirt down. I think that the most important part of a paint job is prep work and clearing. There is way more to it than that but thats the main part. You can always tell a great body man if he doesn't have to buff the car after he paints it. Many reasons. Skill, a $600 paint gun or he went to school. I don't think that you can just read a book and do some body work and paint your car the first time and expect it to come out like a factory paint job. I would think that if you did it that way it would be lots of trial and error or just go ask someone to teach you and work at a bodyshop for free for about two months to get pretty good. Most bodyshops won't hire you without a diploma. so have fun with your painting. I always do. Oh and get that book Steathmode recomended. How to custom paint damn near anthing. In the front of it it shows how to do bodywork and you can get lots of pointers from it. Ignore the rest of the book.

knife 01-09-2006 09:39 PM

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yup a agree with crxrx7 esp with the lights.

intruder1_92TT 01-10-2006 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crxrx7
Yes you can have a high quaility paint job without a paint booth. I paint all the time in my garage and always comes out nice. The trick is to install lots of florecent lights in the garage. In my last garage I had eight of them so it was super bright and I could see what I was doing. And AWAYS WEAR A MASK!!! Just be sure that the ceiling is dirt free and you put water on the floor. This keeps dirt down. I think that the most important part of a paint job is prep work and clearing. There is way more to it than that but thats the main part. You can always tell a great body man if he doesn't have to buff the car after he paints it. Many reasons. Skill, a $600 paint gun or he went to school. I don't think that you can just read a book and do some body work and paint your car the first time and expect it to come out like a factory paint job. I would think that if you did it that way it would be lots of trial and error or just go ask someone to teach you and work at a bodyshop for free for about two months to get pretty good. Most bodyshops won't hire you without a diploma. so have fun with your painting. I always do. Oh and get that book Steathmode recomended. How to custom paint damn near anthing. In the front of it it shows how to do bodywork and you can get lots of pointers from it. Ignore the rest of the book.

If it's your first time, you will need to polish the paint. Get a good polisher sander, and some paint polishinig compound... Trust me ;)

themadhatter 01-10-2006 09:44 PM

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i've taken autobody for 2 years now and the key is prep and knowing how to properly use the gun and paints for a garage project make life a little easier and cheaper on your self and use a single stage paint. lol if its your first time find some one with a buffer that you can use

MikeJ-2009 01-10-2006 10:27 PM

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I just got done reading the "Pro Autobody" book, and it was real good. The only problem with the book is that it leaves you with the feeling that you shouldn't be doing it in your garage, when reality says it's fine as long as you know what you should be doing.


It's kinda like how Greddy would tell you there's no way you can build a turbo kit as good as thiers in your garage. That's kinda how I feel.

The last chapter was about how to take care of the finish (washing/waxiing ect.) and the guy says he has show cars that he painted 15 years ago that he's never washed. :o Chapter was kinda show oriented and made you feel like you are ------- the car up by washing it. Ahh ---- it. I'm gonna paint the ---- anyway. >:D

customcoach 01-10-2006 10:50 PM

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Get the DUPONT two stage(base coat, clearcoat) paint with the hyper cure clear. This stuff is awesome. Any idiot Can make a decent paint job using it. Just spray the color on untill it covers everything. If you get runs sand them out and respray that area. The color coat drys flat so there is no skill needed, just keep spraying untill its all one color. When its dry and you have sanded all the orange peal and bugs out lay on a thick coat of clear. The same thing applies here, you cant screw it up. the clear gets tack free in about 15 to 30 minutes. At this point you sand out anything you dont want in the finish. Then buff the car with cutting past, then rubbing compound, then finnish glaze and finnaly mirror glaze. It's a lot of work but you can get a show quality finnish if you try. If you wait too long to buff(over an hour) its like buffing concrete. I clear one section at a time, like the roof and quarters, Then the doors and fenders, then the hood and bumpers. its less work and gives you more time to buff each piece.
Thee is no easy first time back yard paint job. ts a lot of work to get it to loo like anything. The best tip anyone will give you is to get the car good and clean before you try to paint. Armorall or tree sap will cause fish eyes(holes in the paint) if you get fish eyes you can add fish eye reducer to the paint before you spray the next coat. Add flex agent to the paint you put on bumpers and dont add too much of anything to the paint or it will orange peal.
Get a GOOD respirator. The $20 ones from the hardware store will not work. Get one from the same place you get your paint. Most automotive finnishes will cause permanent lung damage and can cause heart problems.

knife 01-11-2006 09:21 PM

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Deff not impossible buddy did it to his mustang ill try to post a pic if i can get one


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