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Old 06-02-2008, 04:08 PM
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why is it every time i wetsand it ***** it up? i wetsand with just the weight of the paper and lots of running water and it looks worse than when i started. any tips you got before i do it to this bike?
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:13 PM
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why is it every time i wetsand it ***** it up? i wetsand with just the weight of the paper and lots of running water and it looks worse than when i started. any tips you got before i do it to this bike?
lol becouse the more you wet sand the more doll it will look .. it will look very hazzy .. it wont shine untill you buff it :1
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ok...i do this for a living mang...listen....DONT wetsand it with 1000 and try to buff it out...you will kill yourself...If you want, get some 1500 to start and move onto 2000 and try buffing out a spot and see what it does...we buff cars the morning after they are painted and sometimes the same day...so dont worry about that, if you want it to be nice and slick then DO wetsand it with 1000, then re-clear it, keep your clear wet and follow the directions on the can...
Post some Pics of the car and post the labels on your can and i can give you better suggestions...
OH and turn your air pressure down a little bit try 25-30psi and move a little bit slower...
This is 100% correct. Also when you wet sand you can add some DAWN Dish detergent to help keep floating oils from making contact with the clear. This will help prevent fish eyes on your next coat of clear. After wet sanding with the detergent wipe down with grease and wax remover for add security.
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And you want low humidity with temp around 75+ degrees. Also to keep overspray from setteling back onto it after add another coat of clear. IF IN A SHOP spray the floor/ceiling/walls down with water. This will also keep particles from trashing up the clear.
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ok so ill try to wetsand it first. what should i use to buff it?
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:38 PM
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Its the clear your using... There is a reason clear is a couple hundred dollars a gallon. I've used the same stuff your talking about and it blows. go buy some real clear, scuff everything up again without breaking through the shitty clear and spray a good clear over it and you'll be set.
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oh and if we do take it down to primer again, can i wetsand the paint before the clear? and how long do i wait till i wetsand it after paint but no clear?
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yeah i know its the clear, but he is doing this for cheap and we want to fix it to look good.
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You can wet or dry sand base coat. But use 1500 or 2000 grit. And if you want to fix it. Get Dupont or PPG CLEAR. Set what ever your painting out in the direct run light in a container that wont allow particles to touch it to get it pretty warm then take it inside a booth that has everything sprayed down with water. And Lay the clear to it. The higher the temp the thicker you can lay it down. But dont let it cool before dry. Or you will have runs like no other. But get good clear. Thats a start for you. Are you using gravity feed?
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and i also forgot to mention...dont wait a couple days to wetsand it either, do it the very next morning or if you paint early do it late in the afternoon, you dont want your clearcoat to harden all the way...keep it soft by sanding sooner, and work in about 1ft-2ft square areas or whatever...keep it small, then right after you wetsand it buff it....now when u buff it u want to keep it slightly warm...aka apply a little pressure and keep moving, you want it to heat up and get the molecules moving..
also..like WIDEBODY93 said when you wetsand, u wanna keep it wet and u can add a little bit of dawn to lube things up...think cutting fluid thats what the water is for...make sure u keep rinsing ur paper clean too...that will help..
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