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Old 12-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Inquisition
I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.
And thats it, we can try to make educated guess and predictions. But the only way to really know is to have an identical planet earth with no people on it as a control. And since thats never gonna happen, I have a feeling there gonna find some way to tax us and make it appear there gonna fix the problem, when they really have no control over it.
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Old 12-06-2007, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.
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Sorry, had to. Based on who did the study, I'm sure you'll claim that it's biased or whatever. But covering 5,200 students, I'm sure they'll get pretty general numbers.

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Old 12-06-2007, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquisition
In order to limit our possible impact on climate changes, we should be more responsible. Why is that such a big deal to people?
Because when it trickles down to real life people, we face higher taxes on anything the government can "relate" to global warming, we aren't allowed to tap into real energy sources that don't cost us the arm and leg the ones we're using now cost, and state governments pass idiotic laws like reducing the speed limit to 55 based on the "fact" that all cars' fuel efficiency drops after 55mph (voted on today by MN). All in the name of "possible" man made global warming, and amounting to dick. It's a ploy by big government hacks.


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I love how people will comment about how they want government out of their life yet are pro-life. Pro-life limits your choices to one.
Nobody said ---- about being pro-life, and I'm not sure what your rant is about anyway. Ron Paul doesn't want to make the whole world pro-life, he wants to get the federal government out of state issues, one being abortion.


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Also the whole taxes thing, it's a big joke so yuck it up. The government needs a certain amount of money every year. They get it by taxing us. If they take away income tax, they will just raise property and sales tax.
Welcome to how it's always been. If you believe the government has the right to take your money before you see it, and send it to (insert foreign country here) without your consent, and while OUR country is 9 trillion dollars in debt, then keep doing what you're doing. If you think that's wrong, come give me a hummer and vote for Ron Paul.

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Not to mention I believe in income tax. Why should some rich ---- who made all his money working in the US not have to pay into the government?
Now that we've determined you're into the politics of envy, I can tell you that
1) You don't have a right to anyone elses' money.
2) You don't recieve any of thier money.
3) No matter how many "evil" successful people get a tax increase, your government still doesn't know how to handle money and will be in debt.


Originally Posted by Inquisition
I think the climate changes naturally. It changed before we were here and will change after we are here. I also believe 6 billion people on the planet play a role on climate changes as well. How big of a role, I don't know, but a role none the less.
Sounds like a reasonable argument for standing around while China drills our oil off our coast, turning the country into a windmill farm, and regulating the death of people. You might look into the connection of cafe standards and traffic accident deaths. Contrary to popular believe, fuel efficient tin cans aren't as safe as gas hog tanks. So much for freedom of choice.
Also, I shall have you look up the statistics of those who die from cold weather, and those who die from warmer weather. Man-made global warming is a politically correct hoax, and blonde high school bitches are HOT.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Because when it trickles down to real life people, we face higher taxes on anything the government can "relate" to global warming, we aren't allowed to tap into real energy sources that don't cost us the arm and leg the ones we're using now cost, and state governments pass idiotic laws like reducing the speed limit to 55 based on the "fact" that all cars' fuel efficiency drops after 55mph (voted on today by MN). All in the name of "possible" man made global warming, and amounting to dick. It's a ploy by big government hacks.
Well, the efficiency DOES drop with higher speeds. I forget the rate, but I know like every few mph it drops. Much more air resistance and thus more force against you. But regardless, I think it's stupid to do it for global warming.

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3) No matter how many "evil" successful people get a tax increase, your government still doesn't know how to handle money and will be in debt.
Amen to that. I'm sure everyone here has heard stories of the government spending stupid-huge amounts of money on crap you can get at walmart for a dollar. The government would be much less likely to blow money if it had less to play with? Then again it'd probably throw us more into debt when they didn't...

Money causes a shitload of problems, along with human's being more focused on personal gain than what would be the most beneficial to the world. Can't say I haven't been guilty of it myself, but not to the level they are.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:15 AM
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Well, the efficiency DOES drop with higher speeds. I forget the rate, but I know like every few mph it drops. Much more air resistance and thus more force against you.
I would like to see the report that says all cars, regardless of weight, gearing, etc.. could fall under such a bullshit claim.

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Old 12-07-2007, 12:12 PM
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As far as the "climate change" and "global warming" bullshit goes, consider this. In the late 1800's and early 1900's this country was dependent on coal and wood for heat and any other form of power. During the "age of industry" we pumped more ---- into the atmosphere than in the last 20-30 years, and if you look back at the average and record temps during that time period, they were generally colder than what it is today. All plant life on this planet thrives on co2, and if you payed attention in 2nd or 3rd grade biology plants take the co2 out of the air and convert it back into oxygen breathable by animals and humans. ----, when we exhale we're basically expelling mostly co2, so if their arguments are based towards that then maybe they should tell the world that they need to hold their breath so as not to deplete the oxygen content and keep it in check to the co2 levels. :P Their arguments are total bullshit, and is just another way for the gov't to make money off the people. Think of this...the gov't mandates stricter emissions laws to "lower pollution". Stricter emissions means less oil consumed to keep up with higher standards. Less oil used means you can now raise the price of oil because vehicles are now more efficient, and people are buying less oil than they used to. If oil costs stayed the same, the gov't and companies would lose money. Make oil seem like a scarcer commodity and you can raise the price even higher and add in even more "clean air type" taxes. It's sad to say, but the american gov't is a complete waste of life. Where I work (gov't depot fixing military electronics) they waste more money of stupid ---- than any company I've ever seen. They spend over $350 for one capacitor, the same one you can go to the local radio shack and pick up for .80 cents. Resistors coming in at $85 a pop, transistors that range up to $500. ----, just the Traveling Wave Tubes we get from Boeing for the radar I build is upwards of $15,000. Talk about the fleecing of america, and it's your tax dollars that are spent to buy this ----. :P
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I would like to see the report that says all cars, regardless of weight, gearing, etc.. could fall under such a bullshit claim.
What claim is bullshit? The one that cars lose mileage once they reach a certain speed?
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
I'm not feeling you on the pot. That ---- makes you stupid, bro.
CBD stored in fatty tissue that carry out neural-trasmissions in the Periatal lobe. The Periatal lobe is in charge of your visual attention, tactile perception, goal oriented motivation and manipulation of objects. THC is metabolized very quickly and has no long lasting effects. The reason it effects this part of the brain most markedly is peptides that are utilized in that lobe are of similar pH value, so the CBD binds to the sites and "fogs up" transmissions.

Alcohol is nuerotoxic in any amount and incurs long lasting damage to grey matter.

The latter is only legal because people fought hard enough against prohibition, because they felt that the government was invading personal freedoms. It's the same ---- with the drug war, b/s hype-a-ganda that gets blown way out of proportion because people are uneducated and downright stupid, and because they are uneducated and stupid nothing in the way of personal liberties gets done.

People should be educated enough to ---- themselves up with whatever they want.

Besides regulation would get rid of the hyper-inflated black market prices of illicit drugs as well as quality control.

Politics are nonsense.
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In order to scare people into giving up liberty, you must have a crisis. The end.
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Old 12-08-2007, 12:21 AM
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the taxes thing is bogus and ron paul is the only one saying this, basically not one dime of your income tax dollars pays for any social program at all, it all pays interest on the national dept. the rest of the ---- mentioned is paid for by other taxes and oddly enough is handled on the state level, except there is a big fed dept that supercedes the state authority and does nothing but cost money, its these departments that ron paul wants to do away with.

global warming may exist but theres not alot that can be done about it anymore than can be done to change the weather, people like al gore are making alot of money telling people otherwise and trying to convince us that we need a carbon tax to help pay for um, whatever. then you have the department of energy giving farm subsidies to gigantic several thousand acre farms to grow corn for ethenol production which is the worst source of plant fiber to distill in the first place and actually consumes more energy in production than then end product provides. this ***** the small farmers because they can't compete and causes more corn to be sold for fuel making us import from countries like china and bla bla bla, they could just use hemp, but its illegal.

also even if we stopped all emmisions in this country and everyone held there breath you would still have young industrialized countries like india and china building several coal fired power plants every month, are we going to invade them to save the planet?
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