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biggmike 10-14-2004 10:58 AM

No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
http://www.boston.com/news/world/art...ear_equipment/

ATOMIC FACILITIES
UN panel concerned about missing nuclear equipment

By Edith M. Lederer, Associated Press | October 12, 2004

UNITED NATIONS -- The UN nuclear watchdog group expressed concern yesterday about the disappearance from Iraq's nuclear facilities of high-precision equipment that could be used to make nuclear weapons.
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In a letter to the UN Security Council, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said some industrial material that Iraq sent overseas has been located in other countries, but not high-precision items including milling machines and electron beam welders that have both commercial and military uses.

"As the disappearance of such equipment and materials may be of proliferation significance, any state that has information about the location of such items should provide IAEA with that information," said the agency's director general, Mohamed ElBaradei. IAEA inspectors left Iraq just before the March 2003 US-led war.

The Bush administration then barred UN weapons inspectors from returning, deploying US teams instead in what turned out to be an unsuccessful search for weapons of mass destruction.

Nonetheless, IAEA teams were allowed into Iraq in June 2003 to investigate reports of wide------ looting of storage rooms at the main nuclear complex at Tuwaitha, and in August to take an inventory of "several tons" of natural uranium in storage near Tuwaitha.

ElBaradei told the council that Iraq is still obligated, under IAEA agreements, "to declare semiannually changes that have occurred or are foreseen at sites deemed relevant by the agency."

But since March 2003 "the agency has received no such notifications or declarations from any state," he said. As a result of the IAEA's ongoing review of satellite photos and follow-up investigations, ElBaradei said, "the IAEA continues to be concerned about the wide------ and apparently systematic dismantlement that has taken place at sites previously relevant to Iraq's nuclear program and sites previously subject to ongoing monitoring and verification by the agency."
© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...t_2.guest.html

UN Loses Nuclear Material in Iraq
October 12, 2004

Listen to Rush…
(...ask how the nuclear material Saddam didn’t have disappeared)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

This is a toughie here, folks. I'm having a lot of trouble here. I've been delaying doing this story because I actually don't believe it and I'm struggling here to do this with a straight face, to be objective as a journalist (clearing throat) would be. I'm choked up just thinking about doing this story. It's an Associated Press story by Edith Lederer. Now, normally the Associated Press is a transcript service for the Kerry campaign, but this is not going to fit that template. Well, I'm sure Kerry can make something out of it. I'll pretend I'm Kerry trying to make something out of this. He's a master debater (ahem!) and not a leader. "The UN nuclear watchdog group expressed concern yesterday about the disappearance from Iraq's nuclear facilities of high-precision equipment that could be used to make nuclear weapons."

Now, this nation that has experienced this disappearance of nuclear facilities is Iraq! Iraq! The United Nations is concerned that nuclear technology and equipment is missing from... Iraq? Nuclear stuff in Iraq? "In a letter to the UN Security Council, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency--" That would be our good buddy, Mohammed ElBaradei, "--said that some industrial material that Iraq sent overseas--" (feigned coughing) "--has been located in other countries--" (feigned coughing) What? You mean the UN has admitted that some industrial material that Iraq sent overseas has been located in other countries, "but not high-precision items including milling machines and electron beam welders that have both commercial and military uses."
Well, I guess this is the peaceful nuclear weapons stuff that Saddam was working on, like North Korea and Iran are working on: the peaceful nuclear weapon material. "ElBaradei said, 'As the disappearance of such equipment and materials may be of proliferation significance, any state that has information about the location of such items should provide IAEA with that information.'" So the questions abound here. There are obvious questions like, "If it wasn't there, if Saddam didn't have any of this, then how did it get shipped out? How did it go missing if it wasn't there in the first place?" The second question is, "If it wasn't there in the first place, but is missing, then somebody had to bring it in there. Who brought it in there?"

When did it arrive and then who stole it? This is not missing. What we're dealing with here is stolen nuclear material. Call it what you will. This is really right up John Kerry's alley. The UN has put out a hard-hitting notice, and that notice is to whoever has this, please return it. It's sort of like posting a message on a lost-and-found board in junior high: Hey, we're missing some nuclear material in Iraq. Uh, could you send it back? "As a result of the IAEA's ongoing review of satellite photos and follow-up investigations, ElBaradei said, 'The IAEA continues to be concerned about the wide------ and apparently systematic dismantlement that has taken place at sites previously relevant to Iraq's nuclear program and sites previously subject to ongoing monitoring and verification by the agency.'"

So apparently this happened right under the UN's nose. The UN's monitoring these places and somehow this stuff that's not there is missing. What am I missing here? What am I missing? (program observer interruption) What chaos of the war? I don't care whether it happened in the chaos of the war. How could it have happened in the chaos of anything if it wasn't there, Mr. Snerdley? The point is Saddam didn't have nuke material, Saddam didn't have weapons of mass destruction, there wasn't any, nothing was found, there were no stock piles, zilch, zero, nada. Now all of a sudden some stuff is missing brought about by the chaos of the war. It had to be there if it's missing. If they've asked for it to be given back, it had to be there.

Now, this may be a nuance for Senator Kerry. Imagining how the Kerry campaign will deal with this is quite exciting. (Doing Kerry impression) "Well, this just proves the incompetence of the Bush administration. They no doubt had taken nuclear material to Iraq to help work against insurgents and now it's been stolen. Another bungled move by the Bush administration, trying to sneak nuclear materials into Iraq." And they'll have hearings and they'll bring Bremer up there and Tommy Franks, "When did you put the nuclear materials there?"
Am I alone here in reacting to this the way I am? Does this not just blow your mind? It is incomprehensible to me, nuclear material that wasn't there is missing.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Let's go to Fair Lawn, New Jersey. Hello, Robert. You're next welcome, sir. Nice to have you on the program.

CALLER: How you doing, Rush? And thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: Rush, before the war started, the IAEA sealed and had those things monitored and tagged. As soon as the war started they were not allowed to return, but it was taken over by the U.S. teams and then the Iraqi teams and then all the stuff started disappearing. The stuff is being monitored by satellite, and as it turned out, whole buildings would disappear. So what you have is this anti-proliferation agreement that was set up, and we were supposed to keep tabs on that stuff and get back to the AEIU.

RUSH: Oh, okay, thanks for explaining this to me, Robert. This makes sense. I missed a key element of this, then. I appreciate you setting me straight. See, because I was under the impression this stuff didn't exist.

CALLER: No, it was there.

RUSH: Oh, yeah. Yes, it was there, and it's our fault now that it's gone, and despite the fact that the UN was monitoring this, it's our fault that it was gone, and satellite photos --

CALLER: The U.S. was supposed to keep an eye on it since we wouldn't let the UN or the AEI [sic] back in, and under the agreements that we had set up with them we were supposed to keep an eye on it and report anything that was removed and the buildings are gone with all this nuclear-making material. So that's not keeping an eye on things.
RUSH: Well, hang on. Let me read this story again here. "In a letter to the UN Security Council, the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said some industrial material that Iraq sent overseas has been located in other countries--"

CALLER: Uh-huh.

RUSH: How about that.

CALLER: Yeah, we can't keep an eye and it's being sent all over the place.

RUSH: No, this is beforehand. This is before the war this stuff got sent.

CALLER: No, no, I got an article right in front of me, Rush.

RUSH: There is no way stuff was sent overseas after the war.

CALLER: Rush, I got it right in front of me.

RUSH: Not that Iraq sent. Iraq didn't send anything after the war. Iraq wasn't in charge of anything at the time this stuff went missing.

CALLER: Before the war the IAEA was keeping tabs of this stuff with the UN. They had this sealed and tagged.

RUSH: There's nothing there.

CALLER: Oh, yeah.

RUSH: We can't square this, Robert. Either stuff was there or was not. We're talking nuclear material here. If it was there it was there. If it wasn't there it wasn't there. Everybody believes there was nothing there. Now all of a sudden there was stuff there, it's missing, and it's our fault.

CALLER: Functions that the building contained and the contents that were in the buildings was monitored and sealed.

RUSH: What are you reading from?

CALLER: The Guardian.

RUSH: The Guardian? You may as well be reading from the George Soros website.

CALLER: There's a couple of different places where I read this. This is just the one I have in front of me. The point is, how can a whole building disappear? How can a whole building disappear once we get there?

RUSH: Okay, then tell me where you think it went.

CALLER: It was taken apart and being built somewhere else.

RUSH: By who?
CALLER: That's the question.

RUSH: Who took it apart?

CALLER: That's the question.

RUSH: What do you think happened?

CALLER: What do I think happened?

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: I would think that maybe Iran, whoever needs this nuclear stuff, these tools or equipment.

RUSH: Wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait. We're at war with Iran? Iran is in there dismantling nuclear material under our very eyes?

CALLER: Exactly.

RUSH: Really.

CALLER: Now, what do you think about that?

RUSH: I think it's absurd.

CALLER: Then you think it was us that took the thing apart?

RUSH: No.

CALLER: We're saying we don't know what happened to it.

RUSH: No. I don't think it was us at all.

CALLER: So we're telling them we don't know what happened to the building, and they were keeping satellite pictures of this --

RUSH: The news--

CALLER: The building disappeared right in front of our eyes, Rush [sic]. How did that happen?

RUSH: Robert. You're missing a step.

CALLER: The step is where did it go?

RUSH: The stuff "didn't exist," Robert.

CALLER: It did exist. It was in black and white. It was tagged. It was sealed.

RUSH: Why don't you call the Kerry campaign and tell them to stop lying about this, then?

CALLER: Why don't you call the Bush campaign and ask them what happened to this stuff, or if they know what happened to it?

RUSH: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. The first stuff is: "The stuff didn't exist. Bush lied." It's the whole theory of the Kerry campaign: "Bush lied! Bush misled!" Edwards says it every freaking day. Kerry is out there saying it as often as he can remember to say it. Now all of a sudden it's there and it's, "Oh, yeah." You admit that your candidates are lying about it; it was there, just so you can take the occasion of this story to say Bush is incompetent again? I want to read here. This is the AP version. "In a letter to the UN Security Council the head of the International Atomic Energy Agency said that some industrial material that Iraq sent overseas had been located in other countries..." Iraq sent overseas, Iraq. "...but not high precision items, including milling machines and," blah, blah, blah, blah. "As the disappearance of such equipment and materials may be of proliferation significance, any state that has it," da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da-da, da-da-da-da. "The IAEA inspectors left Iraq just before the March 2003 US-led invasion. US teams turned out to be what they looked into. The Bush administration barred UN weapons inspectors from returning, deploying U.S. teams instead to what turned out to be an unsuccessful search for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

"Nonetheless UN teams were allowed into Iraq in June 2003 to investigate reports of wide------ looting of storage rooms at the main nuclear complex of Tawaitha and in August to take an inventory of several tons of natural uranium in storage near Tawaitha. ElBaradei told the council that Iraq is still obligated, under IAEA agreements, 'to declare semiannually changes that have occurred or are foreseen at sites deemed relevant by the agency.' As a result of the IAEA's ongoing review of satellite photos and follow-up investigations, ElBaradei said, 'The IAEA continues to be concerned about the wide------ and apparently systematic dismantlement that has taken place at sites previously relevant to Iraq's nuclear program and sites previously subject to ongoing monitoring and verification by the agency.'"

This is unbelievable. The UN knows full well what happened here. The UN knows full well there was a nuclear program. There was a nuclear program in Iraq; the IAEA knew it. We allowed them in to catalog these things. Now the stuff is missing after the UN comes in to catalog it, and all along, "Bush lied! Bush misled! There were no weapons of mass destruction and Kerry's got a better, more effective smarter way of doing this." I just love it when the libs call here and say, "Oh, yeah, this stuff is missing and it's Bush's fault," when before this news comes out the libs all say, "It was never there and Bush lied. Saddam didn't have any of this stuff."

Yeah, yeah, we don't know which countries this stuff has turned up in. It might have been Iran that got in under our noses and took this stuff out. No, couldn't have been a terrorist, because terrorists wouldn't be interested in this, would they? What about France? Could this stuff be in France? Maybe it's in Syria. Maybe it's in Libya. You know, there are still 400 Iraqi scientists in Libya that have not been talked to. They have not. Maybe it's in Berlin. I don't know where the stuff is. Yellow cake was found in Rotterdam. Maybe it's in North Korea. Could be in North Korea. I mean, there's any number of places that the nuclear material that didn't exist in Iraq could now be. Well, shazam, folks! Why, hot damn! Where's this going to take us? Be back after this. Build your bomb shelters fast, folks.

END TRANSCRIPT

kain 10-14-2004 05:14 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
i dont know whats worse man, you posting porn with virii in it or posting this steaming pile.

Paul99EX 10-14-2004 06:00 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 

Originally Posted by kain
i dont know whats worse man, you posting porn with virii in it or posting this steaming pile.

For once I'm gonna agree with Kain, wtf dude, thanks for the novel. HAHA

biggmike 10-14-2004 06:13 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
I thought it was funny.
America the propaganda machine.

Paul99EX 10-14-2004 06:15 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
This election is a catch 22, doesnt matter if bush or kerry wins, cuz we're fucked either way

robs99si 10-14-2004 06:28 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
HMT has turned into a book reading club way to go bigmikeroo. ;D

HondaTuner 10-14-2004 06:31 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 

Originally Posted by Paul99EX
This election is a catch 22, doesnt matter if bush or kerry wins, cuz we're fucked either way

Exactly.

willahlborn 10-14-2004 06:31 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
bullshit man. truth is, nobody knows for certin whether there was actual weapons of mass descruction there or not. It's now being found out that some high end welders and aluminum/other metals are missing, and that these "could have" been used to build nuclear weapons. was any radioactive material found, or is it missing? No. Just stuff that could have been used for it. It ALSO COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES. Bush acted upon the intel he was being given by CIA/other sources. He acted the way he should have. If the intel was faulty, HOW THE ---- IS IT BUSH'S FAULT? if that's the way the election is going to be decided, then ---- the presidential vote; let's vote on director of the CIA. :P

HMTguy 10-14-2004 06:35 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
I can't read.

bambooseven 10-14-2004 06:54 PM

Re:No weapons of mass destruction......lol!
 
write in for peter griffin, cause he's a "family guy" and both of those guys are douches


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