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h22a 12-27-2002 09:38 PM

Newbie help.
 
???I know this may sound dumb but Im just begining to start a race car.My brother gave me a turbo from his old car for free.Its a garrett aiResearch T3 turbo.Would it be ok if I :-\used pvc or felxable piping for the turbo?I dont have 200 to spend off hand for piping :-[.Is there a book that shows me how to install mods?I dont know anything about installing auto parts.If you have the time to answer this then thank you. :)

fatrhino 12-27-2002 10:46 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
you could use plastic tubing, but the air won't flow as well

HMT-Admin 12-27-2002 11:50 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
explain how it wont flow as well?

You can use PVC piping, but the heat the turbo puts off, warms the pvc and puts off toxic fumes, which isnt to great for the engine, and yourself.

Jeff

T3 12-28-2002 04:03 AM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Sorry for the name changing. :'(Some how I cant use ChinaRice again.Well its a shity name anyways.

On to the topic.
What is the disadvantage on using flexible piping?

???Will I need a external wastgate?Or could I just use a boost controller?

Anyone know of a site that can show me the "how to" on installing turbos?I want it to be done right or if any of you have advice to help.

Is it better to use smaller piping for turbos?2'' instake would be to big right?Will 1 1/2'' be good enough?

Im going ghetto :D cause I dont wanna spend extra hundreds on high end piping.So ill go home depot style.


Can I use "bilge piping"?It says it work under high temp and pressure conditions.



:DIf anyone of you can find some cheap piping for me at http://www.homedepot.com/ I will pay you $7.00 just for helping me. :D




Here is my turbo I got..Thanks Jeff for always showing people how to post pics. :)

My bro said the shaft has no play in and out or side to side.

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/1cb63...VRXD.AeyZsHti3

fatrhino 12-28-2002 12:15 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
the piping i was thinking of when i said it wouldnt flow as well is that ribbed rubber piping that was on one of the old turbo projects here

BlackDSM 12-28-2002 03:19 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
I would suggest using exhaust piping. Just use radiator hose for the joints and use metal piping. That way it has no chance of expanding and it doesnt heat up and give off those toxic fumes.

Brett

T3 12-28-2002 05:05 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Would this work?Is 4'' to big?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1875938954

Anyone know where I can find this piping in bulk?

This work?
http://www.homedepot.com/prel80/HDUS...idgjm.0&MID=16


wildman 12-28-2002 05:22 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
dont use plastic / rubber/ etc.. Nothing flexable is good.. you want these connections to be hard.. I would use 2.5" electrical conduit before i would use plastic.. I agree if you must go cheap then use exhaust pipe! :P

T3 12-28-2002 05:48 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
??? Wildman..Where can I find exhaust piping in bulk..
Will this fmu work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1875767643

fatrhino 12-28-2002 06:09 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
get exhaust pipes from JC Whitney
4" pipes are too big unless you've got 800hp or so (like Gary Gardella's 1000hp methanol civic it uses a y2k turbo with 4" charge pipes)

wildman 12-28-2002 06:40 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
that fmu should be fine. Although you should find out what the ratio of it is mine is a vortec unit. the ratio info will help you to tune or understand what is going on there at least..

I know of no place to but bult muffler pipe.. but most parts stores have a few different lengths of straight pipe.. For bends.... "you didnt here it from me" go to your local muffler shops and dig through there dumpster's.. they toss alot of new pipe "bad bends e.t.c.." this stuff is new and free for the taking..
I go to the monroe by my place and they keep a giant ile of it behind the shop.. soem of the higher end cars have mandrel bent pipes. so some digging for good bends is worthwhile. ::)

BlackDSM 12-28-2002 06:41 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Go to your local auto parts store for exhaust piping. You wont need a whole bunch of it. It is inexpensive also. Use 2.5" before your intercooler, and use 3" after. You want the compressed air to flow forcefully into the intercooler, but the size of the pipe coming out doesnt matter as much.

Brett

T3 12-28-2002 08:16 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Thanks for info from you all...Wild that is a Paxton 12:1 FMU..So is that good enough or will I need to switch?
I heard it is better to not have a FMU..Why is that?

xxhybridcrxmanxx 12-28-2002 09:16 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
::)

T3 12-28-2002 10:45 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Will this work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1875443844

Can anyone of you check for me some piping?I will pay you..I checked autostores by my house and they said they dont throw out very much piping..I went to savlvages and they tried to rip me off..I couldnt find any place on the net either.

BlackDSM 12-28-2002 10:51 PM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Wtf is that stuff on ebay. Just go to midas or an exhaust shop and see if you can sweet talk your way into some bulk exhaust pipe. I was talking about aluminized steel, not fiberglass. I guess it would work, but it seems a little gay. You just have to find one exhaust shop where a manager is cool, and they can hook you up pretty phat. Most of the deals will most likely be back door. Especially if the manager is shady. If you are a good talker, you will get what you want.

Brett

HMT-Admin 12-29-2002 12:10 AM

Re:Newbie help.
 
Fiberglass/Plastic Pipe is really ghetto to use guys, its not that difficult to fab some charge pipes using some rubber/metal aluminized pipes, exhaust piping or just aluminum, whatever.

Jeff

T3 12-29-2002 12:13 AM

Re:Newbie help.
 
:oJust an opinion. :o

T3 12-29-2002 01:12 AM

Re:Newbie help.
 
:DWoohoo...I finally got somewhere...

Im going to do what DSM said and get the 2 1/2'' and 3'' piping..I asked the guy and he said that they will have those sizes in stock and in bulk in the next week or too...For the 45 and 90 degree angles can I use brass or something different?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3102011630

Thanks for all your help :)


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