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samson 12-22-2006 10:23 PM

New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
Search function isn't loading for me so sorry, but I couldn't search first. Anyway, I did the Stevemode .60 T-Bird Comp. swap and I was thinking about buying the correct comp. wheel for it and put it on when I throw on the WG and mani. Someone on here directed me to a website that sells seperate turbo parts and that was there, but I never got around to getting it or change it. My main concern (besides finding the website with you guys' help) is will I need to re-balance the turbo? I'm saying no because the rest is still intact and the turbine is still on. All that is coming off is the comp. housing and wheel then putting the new one on and housing back on.



Cliff Notes: 1) Need website to find T-Bird Comp. wheel to complete Stevemode .60 comp. swap
2) Do I need to re-balance the turbo putting the new comp. wheel on?


Thanks!!! ;) ;D


JP

Cray91 12-22-2006 10:25 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
yes on the rebalance and I am not sure about the site.

samson 12-22-2006 10:30 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
Dang. I thought so, but didn't know for sure. I figured the rest of the shaft was altogether and in place that it wouldn't shift or move and would be fine. Well, if it needs re-balanced, I doubt it's even worth it because I doubt the local shops could do it.


JP

accordepicenter 12-23-2006 12:03 AM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
they say technically yes you need to but id just put it together, chances are itll probably hold up. Mine did

0b00st0 12-23-2006 12:36 AM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 

Most wheels are balanced when they come new. If you buy a brand new wheel, check the backside to see if any material has been removed. If some has, then the wheel is balanced already. Just slap it together and run.




JDMFantasy2K 12-23-2006 10:51 AM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
blaast told me wheels are balanced individually, and then the whole unit is balanced. I've swapped wheels before without ---- blowing apart, but then again, none of our setups usually stay as they are for more than a few months.

TunerToys 12-23-2006 10:56 AM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 

Originally Posted by JDMFantasy2K
blaast told me wheels are balanced individually, and then the whole unit is balanced. I've swapped wheels before without ---- blowing apart, but then again, none of our setups usually stay as they are for more than a few months.

Out of all the posts so far, this one is the most correct in my opinion. I do know that each wheel is balanced, and then the assembled unit is balanced. Don't skimp, you have a lot of time and energy into your setup. Ingesting turbo parts is not the result you are hoping to achieve.

Craig

accordepicenter 12-23-2006 11:59 AM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
dont forget, 60 trim t3s are cheap and easy to find. If this was a repair on a GT35 then id say have it professionally done, it depends on how much you care about the turbo

DrSeuss 12-23-2006 01:07 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
The wheel will be rotationally balanced, but the two wheels need to be aligned perfectly, to prevent an imbalance along the shaft. So yes, it should be balanced.

samson 12-24-2006 01:13 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
Thanks for all the input guys. So far I'm kind of leaning towards the feeling of Craig in that "it could hold, it may, it may not, but do you want to risk it". I guess there is no way to tell? Wouldn't you figure if you put it on and ran it an it ran FINE then it would continue to be fine, like it wouldn't all of a sudden fall out of balance. It only makes sense that it would do anything right off the bat.


I think I should have turned this into a poll. :-\ This is my daily driver which makes it a decision, but more over it is main transportation to school so I'm kind of at a stand still.


Here is another question: Is it even WORTH it to get the right size wheel and slap on there? What's your opinion? JDMFantsy2K what wheel swap did you do? Is it worth it?

Thanks again for all your input I really appericate it, fellas. :D


JP

JDMFantasy2K 12-24-2006 01:36 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
well i've had 2 t3 48/60 60 trims. The first one i had, had a shitty drain and started to smoke, so i took it apart and replaced the piston ring with a staggered gap one, and just threw the stock wheel back on. People say you should try to mark the orientation for the balancing, but i didn't really care. In any case, the new piston ring didn't help, so i bought a new turbo and sold that one to my friend.

So i had another t3 which was running great, however i was a dumbass and had only a screen on it, and the compressor wheel got mangled. So i called up my buddy i sold my old one to (who hadn't had it rebuild yet), and asked him if i could borrow my old compressor wheel for a few weeks till i too my car off the road. SO i just threw the wheel from my old t3 on there, and it held up great. Granted, i only ran it for a few weeks. But like accordepicenter said, if you have a cheap turbo like a 14b or even some of the lower t3's and they're cheap and you know you won't have that set up for more than 10K miles then ---- it. Otherwise, spend some money for longevity.

samson 12-24-2006 01:54 PM

Re: New Comp. Wheel.... Balance???
 
Thank you. I think if I do it, I'll get it balanced. Rebuild with the new wheel might be in store down the road. I'm looking for more drivability and what not, not breaking track records. Thanks again, guys.


I have over 15K on my set-up (with minor mods here and there) as it is now. :X I go for longevitiy, haha.


JP


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