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B16CRXT 01-05-2006 02:07 PM

Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
well I took my clutch and flywheel off to do my rear main seal and I see this ----...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

ALSO look at my flywheel and clutch and tell me if this is normal. I dont think it is... Its a 6 puck and 8lb aluminum flywheel from lsdmotorsports...
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

:o wtf? dO you think that broken housing could be the cause of my MASSIVE rear main seal oil leak? Should I replace this or what?

RNPoo7 01-05-2006 02:11 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 
ewww what a crap happened Chris?

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 02:31 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
Wish I knew.

Another question guys...I cant find one of my pressure plate bolts. would it be ok for me to replace that one bolt with a regualr bolt from Ace hardware? I have heard they are weight matched or some ----...? any truth?

Ravage70 01-05-2006 02:41 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
i dont see whats broken besides the rubber

jinxy 01-05-2006 02:48 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
they are weight matched and a diffrent bolt will throw your crank out of ballance.

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 02:51 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
hmm ok. would it be ok to just buy 9 of the same bolt from ace and use them instead?

davcivic 01-05-2006 03:07 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
I don't think so, even if you get all the same, in reality, they are made with bigger tolerances and are not exactly the same. I would not risk it, it might be a bitch to go to the dealer and get one, but it would be worth it.

That sucks, i always say I'm going to grab a bucket to put all the bolts in, and never do either and end up losing some, but nothing that critical.

pin 01-05-2006 03:43 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 
Someone's going to come in and prove me wrong, but I think you should get OEM replacement bolts. Hardware store bolts are most likely not correct for that type of application. You need to have faith that they won't break.

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
i THINK B AND D SERIES PP BOLTS ARE THE same arent they? If so, I can use one that I have as a spare...if not, I have to ORDER one from honda :-\

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 03:46 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by pin
Someone's going to come in and prove me wrong, but I think you should get OEM replacement bolts. Hardware store bolts are most likely not correct for that type of application. You need to have faith that they won't break.

the hardware bolts are grade 8. they wont break.

somedude56 01-05-2006 03:52 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
JB weld :y

pin 01-05-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by B16CRXT
the hardware bolts are grade 8. they wont break.

Are the stock bolts grade 8 or higher? You need them the same grade, since some bolts are designed to shear off to prevent other parts from being damaged.

accordepicenter 01-05-2006 04:59 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
oem honda fasteners are generally best for those flywheel bolts. I wouldnt use anything else. WTF happend to your crank/rear main? Clutch looks ok. Hondas are generally= grade 8

Ravage70 01-05-2006 05:03 PM

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d and b bolts are the same

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 

Originally Posted by accordepicenter
oem honda fasteners are generally best for those flywheel bolts. I wouldnt use anything else. WTF happend to your crank/rear main? Clutch looks ok. Hondas are generally= grade 8

yea I'm just gonna either find one from a d series that I might have lying around or order one from honda...

That broken part around the crank where the RMS sits against is some sort of removeable housing. I dont think it will hurt anything as long as teh seal doesnt spin...which it isnt supposed to....any thoughts on that?

You say that wear on teh flywheel is normal? The rivets (bolts) that hold the surface area on are scored by the clutch....bad thing?

TunerToys 01-05-2006 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by B16CRXT
You say that wear on teh flywheel is normal? The rivets (bolts) that hold the surface area on are scored by the clutch....bad thing?

Are the heads of the rivets above the surface of the material? (Above the meta on the flywheel, or above the friction pads on the clutch disk?) That would be a problem.

I would be concerned about why the wear pattern (shiny area in pics) is there. Normally (in my humble experience) the face of the flywheel contact area doesn't have that shiny ring. The face is more uniform, not a shiny ring.

Craig

B16CRXT 01-05-2006 08:53 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
Well 3 of the pressure plate boltswerelonger than the other for some reason, so I got 4 bolts (3 to replace and 1 to fill in) from my dad. He has some spares from some old D15B2. Got those in. You think maybe all that excessive outer wear was due to over torquing those bolts from orioginal install? You are supposed to do it 19ft/lbs but when I installed it, we just used an electric impact gun ....This time I tq'd them to 19-ish ft lbs. We'll see how it looks on the next rebuild. I'm ordering mypiston rings, and rod bearings, and head gasket tonight.

Any advice on what to use to clean the crank shaft where the rod bearings clamp around?

samson 01-05-2006 09:05 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by B16CRXT
You think maybe all that excessive outer wear was due to over torquing those bolts from orioginal install? You are supposed to do it 19ft/lbs but when I installed it, we just used an electric impact gun ....This time I tq'd them to 19-ish ft lbs.

Ya THINK? LOL. Oh my. Sorry.


JP

B16CRXT 01-06-2006 04:05 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
I hope I dont need to resurface the flywheel or anything. I just put it back on as is and am hoping to just break it in again to get it lookin right...

samson 01-06-2006 04:22 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 
Dude, it honestly looks like it ONLY grabbed at the ends. Did you "mic" it up or anything to see if it was level all the way across on both the disc and the flywheel. Looks like overtightening brought it to pinch MORE on the ends, but man I'm not an expert nor am I there to really see what it looks like.


P.S. I didn't mean to be a jerk in my last post. Just looks like something my buddies would have done. I'm ----, hence my clutch install was a total of 8hrs. :-X


JP

B16CRXT 01-07-2006 12:51 AM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate off...
 
nah, I didnt actually measure it. just looked at it closely and felt it. It wasnt a large difference. I couldnt even really feel it..Time will tell...if the clutch slips I'll know why...I dont get how it held soooo well before though. I mean even at 14 psi it held great!

88crex 01-07-2006 12:57 AM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 
im confused about what you are asking about the flywheel. is it because basically there is a groove from the clutch disc. if soo thats normal when using a puck style disc.

B16CRXT 01-07-2006 01:00 AM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by 88crex
im confused about what you are asking about the flywheel. is it because basically there is a groove from the clutch disc. if soo thats normal when using a puck style disc.

you are saying that only part of the disc makes contact with the flywheel? That doesnt look normal at all. In fact it almost look slike it was always in contact and never really out of contact.... :-\

jinxy 01-07-2006 02:36 AM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by B16CRXT
you are saying that only part of the disc makes contact with the flywheel? That doesnt look normal at all. In fact it almost look slike it was always in contact and never really out of contact.... :-\

you didint put your clutch disk in backwards, did you?

B16CRXT 01-07-2006 02:53 PM

Re: Need some opinions really fast on this shit...just took my pressure plate of
 

Originally Posted by rawr
you didint put your clutch disk in backwards, did you?

no. lol :1


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