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Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 01:03 AM

n00b project crx and toyota 22R
 
EDIT: Apparently photobucket doesn't support porn.... I should have read the terms of service (sarcasm, I knew it wouldn't last... I'll post em up again eventually)

no turbo yet



HMTguy 11-25-2006 02:02 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
Well, so far you're a huge failure.

ifly87 11-25-2006 02:06 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
I didnt think they put disk brakes on the rear of crx's

HMTguy 11-25-2006 02:09 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
Well you're an ever larger failure then.

myAE86turbo 11-25-2006 02:41 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by ifly87
I didnt think they put disk brakes on the rear of crx's

dude, you gotta a mighty D block t3/t4 ---- and crx never had rear discs???

im not a honda guy but damn neckup

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 05:18 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
Here are some pics of the actual crx project

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 05:35 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
As for the truck it's an 86 22r 4X4 ( that's the carb motor) 545 000 km
I have an extra manifold and after seeing your little cover story last week I'm
just gonna go for it and boost this thing and see what happens.... I have an
extra motor in case but I think it'll work out.....

This is the truck when I bought it...
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...truckStart.jpg

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ckStartTwo.jpg



Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 05:50 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 


I didn't know better then.... shouldn't have bought a turbo off of a 1.9l diesel escort from the uk

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ms/miniM27.jpg

HondaTuner 11-25-2006 05:52 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
First off why have you let this guy raped you for 2 years with this B16 ::)

and second toyota is BEAT, jon's (cover page) is actually pretty nice for the year. Good luck with the project

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 06:03 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
here's a pic of the truck after I spent a couple weeks welding in a new floor and some new pieces to fill in the holes....

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...WorkedYota.jpg

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 06:11 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by ifly87
I didnt think they put disk brakes on the rear of crx's

I know that the 90-91 crx Si's in canada had 4 wheel disc for sure. I'm pretty sure the 88-89 also... not sure about usdm though?
I know that they always change from can to us like our 97 civic si was your 97 civic ex... and other stupid ---- like that.

Smith-02 11-25-2006 09:00 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by Turbo_Dreams
here's a pic of the truck after I spent a couple weeks welding in a new floor and some new pieces to fill in the holes....

www.homemadeturbo.com click the link if you're confused. ill sell you everything i had on my truck, if you want.

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 08:35 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Parts car
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...niPartsCar.jpg


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...e_turboKit.jpg
The Truck when I bought it... Pretty beat up but next to free so why not
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...truckStart.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ckStartTwo.jpg
This is the truck now with body work, paint, lots of welding... damn winters out here, all the salt just eats these trucks up!!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...WorkedYota.jpg
I rebuilt the motor last spring, ready for boost!!!




Smith-02 11-25-2006 09:52 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
a t3 like i had will spool below 3 grand (around 2500 or so) on a 22r. a t25 in any trim would spool at like 1700rpm. although good for the motors powerband, bad for anything past 5k

edit: detail me on what your truck is. im assuming its the g52 or whatever the trans was. 5spd? or auto. the automatics toyota used are pretty beefy actually..

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 10:11 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

I'm not sure what to believe anymore but he told me he'd get the engine for sure by the end of december, I don't really care anymore !! I think I'll just boost the D in the mean time... :S

Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 10:58 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
a t3 like i had will spool below 3 grand (around 2500 or so) on a 22r. a t25 in any trim would spool at like 1700rpm. although good for the motors powerband, bad for anything past 5k

edit: detail me on what your truck is. im assuming its the g52 or whatever the trans was. 5spd? or auto. the automatics toyota used are pretty beefy actually..

Truck details: 1986 Toyota 4X4 reg cab/ long box
22R (Carb), 2367 cc disp, 9.0:1 compression, 100 hp, rebuilt last spring
Carb is Stock 22R Aisan (flow 326 cfm)

Transmission is a rebuilt 1989 W56 5-Speed manual from a 22RE
Transfer case is a used 1988 RF1A (21 spline gear driven)

Stock cam specs: Intake Duration- 272 degrees, Exhaust Duration- 248 degrees, Intake Lift- 10.1 mm, Exhaust Lift- 9.7 mm
Block: Bore: 92mm Stroke: 89mm

271 cfm @ 5500rpm ~theoretical maximum on a 22R block.
Rolling on some 31X10.5 tires wt factory rims

So I guess I'll shop around for a good used CT-26 or a T3 then....

dcg9381 11-25-2006 11:17 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
Wow.. lot of work in that truck!

What manifold are you going to use on the 22R?

If you're going *cheap* - OEM manifold, the CT26 can be made to fit with minor slotting of exhaust side holes. The CT26 will support over 200hp, which is about the limit of the cast pistons anyway...

I'd strongly suggest EFI, if you're going to do it - especially with as much time as you've put into that truck.. You can do "fuel only" megasquirt very simply and basically it's just an add-on, keeping your stock ignition system. You'll have no timing control, unless you do some sort of MSD unit.
Full megasuirt really isn't that hard to do, there are at least 4-5 trucks running it.


If you're going to carb.. draw through.
I did an EFI (TBI) draw through setup on a supercharger that actually worked very well:

http://lakebox.dnsalias.com/photos/1...d/DSC04979.JPG


Turbo_Dreams 11-25-2006 11:44 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
Nice setup on that SC dcg9381... What's the price difference on going the EFI route compared to megasquirt? I'll have to look into megasquirt cause I keep hearing about it, as for the mani I'll either be using the stock cast non-turbo manifold and welding a flange to it or maybe custom homemade flange, def not the factory turbo mani cause I can't find any around here although it'd make it a lot easier!

I keep hearing different stories on the outcome of blow thru carb setups. When I do the truck it'll be low boost just to get it moving off idle cause it's too damn slow... need more torque!!! I figured I'd be able to tune it with the carb blow thru set up if it's only low boost but I guess I'll have to do more homework... wish I had gotten a 22RE or 22RTE such better platforms to start with but this truck was so cheap !!

beaker 11-25-2006 11:46 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by Turbo_Dreams
I have a very patient gf..

you still havent posted pics of your GF.......

Turbo_Dreams 11-26-2006 12:00 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
you still havent posted pics of your GF.......

nope

beaker 11-26-2006 12:08 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
not bad for the top of her head. lol

Turbo_Dreams 11-26-2006 12:15 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
More Pics of the project...

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...iftanymore.jpg

Now as I said before it had tons of rust... I took the taillight off and a chunk of bondo fell off
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...reRustBack.jpg

And this is the floor in the truck, I know it was a waste of time but when you work out where I work you gotta keep busy and this was what I did.... It was good practice as far as learning to weld and bodywork/painting....
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...tRustFloor.jpg
And there was also a lot of rust around the windsheild the guy who owned it ( a true farmer) had siliconed all the way around the windsheild so tons of rust I could actually stick my hand in the A pillar!
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...ustAPillar.jpg
So after some welding and such it turned out all right
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...illarFixed.jpg
Then there was the blown head gasket last winter...
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...HeadGasket.jpg
Took the time to clean it up and fix every other part underhood that could give me problems... all new hoses/vac lines/ fuel lines....
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...hedRebuild.jpg
And this is last summer in my homeMadePaint booth....
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r...PaintBooth.jpg

I know there aren't any actual turbo setup pics yet but I will follow thru with this so until then thanks for any input.


FURACERMAN 11-26-2006 12:38 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 
When are you gonna lift it? I wanna see some dual cases, and 37" boggers on that thing.

Turbo_Dreams 11-26-2006 12:50 AM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R (pics will be up on monday)
 

Originally Posted by FURACERMAN
When are you gonna lift it? I wanna see some dual cases, and 37" boggers on that thing.

Need to finish one thing before I start another... That crx has been sitting around for almost three years, I'll finish that first.
As for the truck it needs more power to turn some 37" tires cause it sure as hell couldn't do it very well stock! So I'll finish the
HMT setups on these two this spring'ish and then I might have some money left over for the 4X4.


Turbo_Dreams 11-27-2006 06:51 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R
 
just read this post by blast:


Originally Posted by BLAAST
For sure, NOTHING inside a CT26 is compatible with Garrett T04. Toyota shafts and bearings are of odd diameters and internals Differ a lot in shapes and design. THe lack of a bolted down/360° thrust plate as well as that stupid sleeve sandwiched between the bearings to avoid the use of c-clips makes this turbo weaker and weaker as the boost increases and as people are mislead by the impressive size of this outdated hitachi turbo, they always end up maxing it out beyond reliability limits so it's an endless source of problems that you are stuck with thanks to it's odd, non standard flanges.

ebay Rebuild "kits" are, as always, a scam, inviting people to believe they can rebuild a turbo themelves with just a hammer, a screw driver an no balancing!! Since they do not even include the proper sized bearings that are always needed to cure shaft play, you wake up short of a hundred bucks and with a bunch of extra parts that generally don't even need to be replaced, the wrong bearings and an no warranty but the one that this turbo will fail again in minutes.


So I guess I won't be using a ct-26... sounds like a POS! Better off with a straight T3 then... I need something that'll spool up around 2200-2500 rpm on my 22r.Any more opinions on the ct-26 ?

Smith-02 11-27-2006 07:57 PM

Re: n00b project crx and toyota 22R
 

Originally Posted by Turbo_Dreams
just read this post by blast:
So I guess I won't be using a ct-26... sounds like a POS! Better off with a straight T3 then... I need something that'll spool up around 2200-2500 rpm on my 22r.Any more opinions on the ct-26 ?

.42/.48 t3 will work tits


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