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nyc86zc 09-17-2005 10:38 AM

My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
I bought a clutch kit off mike over a year ago and install it 14 months ago. The kit was a 6 puck sprung kit for an 86 integra. Mike was great to do business with and responded very quickly with my questions etc. I received the clutch shortly after ordering it:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg


It came well packaged and everything was there. I did notice that there was not that much material before the rivets would come into contact with either the PP of the flywheel. I just thought that the material was very strong and it would last long. Anyway, I installed it myself in a matter of hours:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg


I drove it around for a little over a year (14 months) when I decided to swap trannies. During this time it never once saw the track or slicks. This is my daily driver too so I drive it to work everyday with quite a few highway miles. Total I'd say I put about 15k miles on the clutch. I dropped the tranny and decided to look at the clutch and noticed it was down to the rivets on the PP side. Luckily the flywheel side was fine because i already had the ZC flywheel cut once already.

Here are some pics:
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg


I sent mike a PM regarding this issue and he got back to me right away. There is a warranty, but only 6 months which I understand for a clutch like this. He offered to freshen up the kit or I could purchase a new clutch at the regular low price. I had a few clutches and PP's laying around from other cars and swaps that I matched some together.

Instead I opted to throw in my old clutchnet 6 puck and an old HD PP i had laying around from a swap. I used this clutch, but not this PP:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

This PP is dual diaphram and destroys clutch cables and everything else along the way:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

This new combo works great. I have a normal pedal but it grabs like a mofo.


I am not ripping on mike's clutches, I am just informing everyone with what happened to me. They gripped well, never had one slip for as long as I had it.

FooK 09-17-2005 10:58 AM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
14 months of getting ripped on doesn't seem too bad to me.

If it seemed thin when you got it, might have been a good idea to check the thickness and see if it was in spec and look into warrantying it then.

d16forlife 09-17-2005 11:32 AM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
I agree with fook.

I didnt have my car that long after I installed mine but like you had no problems or thought that it was a bad product.If it was a dailey driver you have to consider that in traffic sometimes without thinking people tend to "ride" the clucth wich leads to premature wear.Not saying that you wore it out prematurely but I sometimes found myself doing this without thinking :-\

mycrx 09-17-2005 11:45 AM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
who buys a 6 puck clutch to "not run the ---- outa their car"

con 09-17-2005 12:00 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
couldn't you have just put a new disc in it? Did you check the specs on the flywheel step?

neuspeedescort 09-17-2005 12:03 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
was this also your daily driver? where you where letting it out slow at times? cause that wears on puck clutchs teh most.

NEUMAN

mycrx 09-17-2005 12:45 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
you never install a new disc or pressure plate on a unsurfaced flywheel or shitty pp, its like putting on new rotors with shitty worn out brake pads.

krustindumm 09-17-2005 12:53 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
slipping always wears clutches out the most. can't really wear when there's no contact or no motion. also that's the only time heat is generated.

con 09-17-2005 12:55 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 

Originally Posted by mycrx
you never install a new disc or pressure plate on a unsurfaced flywheel or shitty pp, its like putting on new rotors with shitty worn out brake pads.

come on its hmt, it wasn't slipping, if nothing was chewed up you would be fine ;)

scottsi 09-17-2005 01:21 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
learn to drive pansy, 6 puck is for daily driving, shoulda got a full face

LSD Motorsports 09-17-2005 01:39 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 

Originally Posted by FooK
14 months of getting ripped on doesn't seem too bad to me.

If it seemed thin when you got it, might have been a good idea to check the thickness and see if it was in spec and look into warrantying it then.

Pads only come in two different sizes from the manufacturer. One is standard size and one is 15 thousdandths over for custom stuff when someone brings in a pp thats very deeply eaten into and needs machining. Thats how i can say for sure that the clutch was in spec and they just appear very thin. Thanks for being honest about our transaction, Racing clutches are very grabby and do not share the same life span as the next one. It really depends how they are driven. 6 Months is the best warranty on the market as no other companies that im aware give any kind of warranty.
Im glad you had another one laying around to get you going again.

nyc86zc 09-17-2005 02:11 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 

Originally Posted by d16forlife
I agree with fook.

I didnt have my car that long after I installed mine but like you had no problems or thought that it was a bad product.If it was a dailey driver you have to consider that in traffic sometimes without thinking people tend to "ride" the clucth wich leads to premature wear.Not saying that you wore it out prematurely but I sometimes found myself doing this without thinking :-\

I really don't ride the clutch or at least not to my knowledge. No passenger of mine has ever commented on it either.



Originally Posted by mycrx
who buys a 6 puck clutch to "not run the ---- outa their car"

Don't get me wrong I have beaten the ---- out of my car but not as often as you think. Compared to my friends I take it very easy. But every once in a while I do beat on it. What's the point of having a fast car if you don't get on it?

Secondly I HAD to buy a 6 (or lower) puck because I've tried two full disc setups, an ACT and a Centerforce DF and both organic discs slipped like a mofo.



Originally Posted by highroller54
couldn't you have just put a new disc in it? Did you check the specs on the flywheel step?

That's what I did. I put a disc from an earlier setup that only had ~8k on it. It is a clutchnet 6 puck. There is plenty of meat left on the clutch I am currently using and it's been grabbing well.

I brought it to a machine shop that does a shitload of honda work and I know they did the proper step.


Originally Posted by neuspeedescort
was this also your daily driver? where you where letting it out slow at times? cause that wears on puck clutchs teh most.

NEUMAN


yeah it's a daily driver and I try my best to not 'ride the clutch'. Honestly it always grabbed so tight that it made it very difficult to make it slip. Obviously I could rev the ---- out of it and make it slip.



I guess I'll see how long this current 6 puck lasts so we can compare.



MikeJ-2009 09-17-2005 02:11 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
When I first saw a clutch specialties clutch I thought they looked thin too. Then I put one in my turbo HF for 4k miles of torture, then I sent it to Jeff for the weeze all motor deal. I don't know how many miles went on it then, but then he sent it back to me and now we've put it on Cray's car (soon to be turbo). I think I'm convinced. ^-^

FooK 09-17-2005 02:14 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
one thing you have to keep in mind is what a clutch is designed for.

1. stock oe replacement style clutch. designed for low power, long life.

2. now you have your power clutches, ie 6 pucks...etc. these are made with performance in mind. It shouldnt be at all that shocking to realize that you will give up alot of that 'long life' stuff when you're stepping into a clutch designed primarily for holding power.

personally id be prety content with a clutch like this lasting 14 months, and id probably just get another one of the same.

turboDA6 09-17-2005 02:23 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 

Originally Posted by FooK
personally id be prety content with a clutch like this lasting 14 months, and id probably just get another one of the same.

what were u expecting from an aftermarket clutch after 15k miles?

scottsi 09-17-2005 03:30 PM

Re: My Clutch Specialities Clutch after 14 months and New setup PICS
 
yadadameen


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