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Old 01-10-2006, 07:22 PM
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Do a google and find out what Viva Aztlan means.
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i went to a home depot in miami. i swear. i went through 3 employees just to find one that spoke english. then i went through 2 empoloyess that spoke english. just so i could find one that spoke good english so i could understand what the ---- they were saying

thats nothing.. ----.. i walked into mcdonalds.. i see a long *** line.. and i look.. and no ones getting anything ordered because the retards at the front cant understand the people ordering and it takes them forever just to get the right order.

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to further compliment my suggestion that we just kill all people knowns to be involved in gangs.

Although founded among immigrants in the United States, Mara Salvatrucha now has a large presence in El Salvador. Much of this is due to the U.S. policy of deporting convicted criminals back to their country of origin. Back in El Salvador, these deportees have recruited more members, including new members who immigrate illegally to the United States.
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The age of a Mara Salvatrucha member can range from 11 to 50. The gangs have moved from beyond their Salvadoran and Los Angeles origins and can be found now in Honduras, Guatemala, Canada, Mexico, and over 30 U.S. states, especially on Long Island and around Washington, DC in the Maryland and Virginia suburbs. Some sets have even been founded in Spain, Italy, even Belgium; it has been said the gang even has an alliance with La Cosa Nostra. Many Mara Salvatrucha members are former members of death squads set up by the Salvadoran government and supported by the United States government in the 1970s and 1980s. Members of these groups have training in firearms, explosives and booby traps. There is no centralization or hierarchy among the gang from different regions, although a 2004 report by the U.S. National Drug Intelligence Center says chapters of Mara Salvatrucha in different areas may be trying to set up a coordination network. In 2005, police in Maryland and Northern Virginia suburbs of Washington, D.C., noticed an increase in the presence of the gang, including incidents of gang-related stabbings and other violence.
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I'm going to say the same thing I said about Tookie. He was convicted, and had how many f-ing years to appeal? Fry 'em. Besides, with over 600 people on the California death row, we need to make some room, and save some money.
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I don't hate mexicans, I hate mexicants.
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Originally Posted by junkyard racer
the tookie case was 95% racial drivin IMO.
So we all agree to let the white guy go?
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
So we all agree to let the white guy go?
---- no. Fry them all....white....black...pink....yellow...orange... .hot flourescent pink with yellow glow in the dark poka-dots...alll of them die the same ------- way.
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Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
---- no. Fry them all....white....black...pink....yellow...orange... .hot flourescent pink with yellow glow in the dark poka-dots...alll of them die the same ------- way.
Preach on Reverand Boost...
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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
Do a google and find out what Viva Aztlan means.
Live something or something lives.. I couldn't find what Aztlan is

And my opinion, switch out his insulin for some lethal injection...
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It's hard to get an "official" meaning of it but I can show you pretty much exactly what it means. Kinda like "*****" in the dictionary doesn't mean your nuts, it means ***** is how I'll show you.


Taken from a forum about some mexican ----.


blanco and whitey savages!

the racism of the whitey savages is truly unbelievable. these fucken whitey minutemen people are against mexican brothers and sisters, simply because they want to move into their own land and build their nation of Aztlan.

the vileness of these racist whitey savages are truly unbelievable. when will whitey bigotry ever end?

answer: never for such a vile and evil RACE.

viva the brown raza! viva the brown, black, red, and yellow races!

viva aztlan! viva reconquista!

viva robert mugabe! viva lopez obrador! viva hugo chavez! viva malcolm X! viva fidel castro! viva lenin! viva mao tse-tung!



When you hear Viva La Raza, it's translated to "Long live the race". Raza meaning "race" or culture ect. ect.

Aztlan is a portion of land from Colorado? to California and I'm not sure how far north "aztlan" ends, but it's a word used to describe what mexicans feel is their "ancestrial land". So when it is said "Viva Aztlan", it means roughly "Long Live (that section of land they feel is their "ancestrial land")

When you read above next to "viva aztlan", "VIVA RECONQUISTA" reconquista is translated to "re-conquest" as in "take back aztlan". Viva reconquista means "long live the re-conquest"

I won't say all mexicans agree with this bullshit, but it's alot bigger than a small group. Basically, long live the race (thier race) long live aztlan (the land they feel is thiers) and long live the re conquering of taking that land back.


If you do a google on groups like MECHA (kinda like the klan of this whole idea) or do some research about Vicente Fox (mexico's president) you'll find that Mexico actually teaches their citizens that going to America illegally is the goal. I probably wouldn't be able to find anything to link the mexican government and the reconquista of aztlan for la raza, but uh, remember 2+2
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Damn it, Julio and Renr are going to hate me all over again.








Here's the MECHA Constitution

Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan

National Constitution
Preamble

Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlan must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo within the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan.

The following structure will make every MEChista accountable to its chapter, every chapter accountable to its central (where applicable), every central accountable to its region, every region accountable to its state (where applicable), and every state accountable to the national.

Article I: Name

Section 1. The name of this organization shall be the National Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA).

Section 2. The official symbol of this organization shall be the eagle with its wings ------, bearing a macahuittle in one claw and a dynamite stick in the other with the lighted fuse in its beak. The acronym MEChA shall be above the symbol with the phrase "La Union Hace La Fuerza" below.

Article II: Organizational Objectives

Section 1. National MEChA outlines the following organizational objectives:

A) To strive for educational, cultural, economical, political, and social; empowerment within the Chicano community in order to liberate nuestra gente;

B) To undertake the responsibility of retaining our identity and furthering our cultural awareness;

C) To undertake the responsibility of uplifting and mobilizing Chicanos and Chicanas through higher education;

D) To implement plans of action concerning Chicanos and Chicanas


And here is the MECHA action plan (how they are going to take over aztlan

EL PLAN DE AZTLAN
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan

In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

We are free and sovereign to determine those tasks which are justly called for by our house, our land, the sweat of our brows, and by our hearts. Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. We do not recognize capricious frontiers on the bronze continent

Brotherhood unites us, and love for our brothers makes us a people whose time has come and who struggles against the foreigner "gabacho" who exploits our riches and destroys our culture. With our heart in our hands and our hands in the soil, we declare the independence of our mestizo nation. We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan.

For La Raza to do. Fuera de La Raza nada.

Program
El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan sets the theme that the Chicanos (La Raza de Bronze) must use their nationalism as the key or common denominator for mass mobilization and organization. Once we are committed to the idea and philosophy of El Plan de Aztlan, we can only conclude that social, economic, cultural, and political independence is the only road to total liberation from oppression, exploitation, and racism. Our struggle then must be for the control of our barrios, campos, pueblos, lands, our economy, our culture, and our political life. El Plan commits all levels of Chicano society - the barrio, the campo, the ranchero, the writer, the teacher, the worker, the professional - to La Causa.

Nationalism

Nationalism as the key to organization transcends all religious, political, class, and economic factions or boundaries. Nationalism is the common denominator that all members of La Raza can agree upon.

Organizational Goals

1. UNITY in the thinking of our people concerning the barrios, the pueblo, the campo, the land, the poor, the middle class, the professional-all committed to the liberation of La Raza.

2. ECONOMY: economic control of our lives and our communities can only come about by driving the exploiter out of our communities, our pueblos, and our lands and by controlling and developing our own talents, sweat, and resources. Cultural background and values which ignore materialism and embrace humanism will contribute to the act of cooperative buying and the distribution of resources and production to sustain an economic base for healthy growth and development Lands rightfully ours will be fought for and defended. Land and realty ownership will be acquired by the community for the people's welfare. Economic ties of responsibility must be secured by nationalism and the Chicano defense units.

3. EDUCATION must be relative to our people, i.e., history, culture, bilingual education, contributions, etc. Community control of our schools, our teachers, our administrators, our counselors, and our programs.

4. INSTITUTIONS shall serve our people by providing the service necessary for a full life and their welfare on the basis of restitution, not handouts or beggar's crumbs. Restitution for past economic slavery, political exploitation, ethnic and cultural psychological destruction and denial of civil and human rights. Institutions in our community which do not serve the people have no place in the community. The institutions belong to the people.

5. SELF-DEFENSE of the community must rely on the combined strength of the people. The front line defense will come from the barrios, the camp os, the pueblos, and the ranchitos. Their involvement as protectors of their people will be given respect and dignity. They in turn offer their responsibility and their lives for their people. Those who place themselves in the front ranks for their people do so out of love and carnalismo. Those institutions which are fattened by our brothers to provide employment and political pork barrels for the gringo will do so only as acts of liberation and for La Causa. For the very young there will no longer be acts of juvenile delinquency, but revolutionary acts.

6. CULTURAL values of our people strengthen our identity and the moral backbone of the movement. Our culture unites and educates the family of La Raza towards liberation with one heart and one mind. We must insure that our writers, poets, musicians, and artists produce literature and art that is appealing to our people and relates to our revolutionary culture. Our cultural values of life, family, and home will serve as a powerful weapon to defeat the gringo dollar value system and encourage the process of love and brotherhood.

7. POLITICAL LIBERATION can only come through indepen-dent action on our part, since the two-party system is the same animal with two heads that feed from the same trough. Where we are a majority, we will control; where we are a minority, we will represent a pressure group; nationally, we will represent one party: La Familia de La Raza!

Action

1. Awareness and distribution of El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan. Presented at every meeting, demonstration, confrontation, courthouse, institution, administration, church, school, tree, building, car, and every place of human existence.

2. September 16, on the birthdate of Mexican Independence, a national walk-out by all Chicanos of all colleges and schools to be sustained until the complete revision of the educational system: its policy makers, administration, its curriculum, and its personnel to meet the needs of our community.

3. Self-Defense against the occupying forces of the oppressors at every school, every available man, woman, and child.

4. Community nationalization and organization of all Chicanos: El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan.

5. Economic program to drive the exploiter out of our community and a welding together of our people's combined resources to control their own production through cooperative effort.

6. Creation of an independent local, regional, and national political party.

A nation autonomous and free - culturally, socially, economically, and politically- will make its own decisions on the usage of our lands, the taxation of our goods, the utilization of our bodies for war, the determination of justice (reward and punishment), and the profit of our sweat.

El Plan de Aztlan is the plan of liberation!
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