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stillnoturbo 10-09-2008 10:28 PM

Modifying tach signal?
 
I'm having a hard time finding a tach that will work with the twin in my bike. I know Shindy makes a nice electronic tach but are a bit pricey. The only other tach besides the crusty Drag Specialties mini tach will work but only read up to 8k is a Apexi tach. This is HMT so I can't see spending 2-300 dollars for a tach. My question is there anyway I could reduce the signal the tach is seeing by half since tach like Autometer and whatnot usually only at four cylinders and go up from there. Could I install resistor between the wiring from the tach to the coil? I mean what is on the inside of a aftermarket tach that adjust the signal from when you switch from 4 to 6 or 8 cylinder?

45psi 10-09-2008 10:31 PM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
sorry dad

stillnoturbo 10-09-2008 10:32 PM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
She can adjust my signal any day. Hell i'm redlining just looking at her. 8)

TunerToys 10-09-2008 11:30 PM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
Use a frequency divider latch type circuit.

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/...r/count_1.html

Takes pulses in and gives half the pulses out.

Scott-EP 10-09-2008 11:33 PM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 

Originally Posted by TunerToys
Use a frequency divider latch type circuit.

http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/...r/count_1.html

Takes pulses in and gives half the pulses out.

so this could also be used on a 2 stroke? i really want a tach for my scooter, but i dont want to spend a ---- load on it either.

TunerToys 10-09-2008 11:46 PM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
Yep, you could filter down the signal from the engine, and shape it up into a square wave for the flip flop. One it's a square wave of the proper voltage (logic levels are 0 to 5vdc), you can do just about anything with it. As long as you find a tach that can read that same square wave, you are good to go. Even if the tach has to have a larger signal, you can amplify the square wave

Craig

Smith-02 10-10-2008 12:20 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
if you set input on 4cyl with a tach redline of 8k, a single cyl 2-stroke could fire 16k rpm and register as a 4cyl spinning 8k

same with super duper rev happy cars. 4cyl that revs 12k+ set to 8 cyl on tach and it reads 14k as 7k on the 8cyl setting

stillnoturbo 10-10-2008 12:24 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
My electronic skills kicked the bucket after I left the air force nearly ten years ago. Can you actually buy one or do you have to build it? The schematic almost looks like a relay type circuit with the four ternimals it would have. Enlighten us Craig on where we would find a frequency divider latch type circuit.

supernewb 10-10-2008 05:55 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 

Originally Posted by stillnoturbo
I'm having a hard time finding a tach that will work with the twin in my bike. I know Shindy makes a nice electronic tach but are a bit pricey. The only other tach besides the crusty Drag Specialties mini tach will work but only read up to 8k is a Apexi tach. This is HMT so I can't see spending 2-300 dollars for a tach. My question is there anyway I could reduce the signal the tach is seeing by half since tach like Autometer and whatnot usually only at four cylinders and go up from there. Could I install resistor between the wiring from the tach to the coil? I mean what is on the inside of a aftermarket tach that adjust the signal from when you switch from 4 to 6 or 8 cylinder?

just get and ebay tach they always advratise 1,2,3,4,6,8 cyc engine's it works on them all

Scott-EP 10-10-2008 08:36 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
i just want one of my cheap CDM tach's to work on my CDM scooter. the most RPM it will ever see should be about 12k and thats a ways down the road. stock is about 8.5-9k.

someone help a nog out, i can solder things together, but i really know nothing about how they work

stillnoturbo 10-10-2008 10:20 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 

Originally Posted by supernewb
just get and ebay tach they always advratise 1,2,3,4,6,8 cyc engine's it works on them all

You try to find one there buddy since you think it's soo easy peasy. Hell even most Autometer tachs only start from a four cylinder and up. I want a tach that goes above 8k like most of them do on ebay that you can use for a two cylinder. Most are for harleys so no need to spin a stock big twin that high.

jinxy 10-10-2008 11:10 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
ching chong meow


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...mZ260295675617

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__TACHOMETER-1981-KAWASAKI-KZ550_W0QQitemZ230298087011QQadnZMotorcycleQ20Part sQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2863QQcmdZViewItem?hash =item230298087011&_trkparms=72%3A543|39%3A1|65%3A1 2|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

stillnoturbo 10-11-2008 12:52 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
You fail twice. Those are both cable tach you dirty nog. You can clearly see the part in the back where the cable goes into. Find me a electronic tach that works with a two cylinder and goes above 8k.
This is what mostly on ebay and I need something above 8k.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Moto...=p4506.c0.m245
I know of just one that fits my requirements but don't really want to dump 150 in a tach but it'll look badass being it goes up to 15k or even 18k. 8) They have a digital tach also but it kinda ruins the theme of the bike.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Moto...4506.m20.l1116
Shindy Daytona digital tach
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Moto...=p4506.c0.m245

jinxy 10-11-2008 01:46 AM

Re: Modifying tach signal?
 
hrmm

we used to have a cheep digital tach we used on victories but I don't remember what it is.


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