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J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 01:52 PM

Microsoft Shuts Down Chinese Blog
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060106/..._blog_shutdown

Microsoft's Web log service bars use of terms such as "democracy" and "human rights." On the China-based portal of search engine Google, a search for material the Dalai Lama, Taiwan and other sensitive topics returns a message saying "site cannot be found."

buk9tp 01-06-2006 01:56 PM

Re: Microsoft Shuts Down Chinese Blog
 
part of there user agreement was that users must comply with local laws. its not microsofts fault. and they cant afford to be on chinas badside. theyre money hungry like that. but its cool. lets just keep outsourcing to china. and theyll be the next superpower. while theyre people have basically no rights at all..

atleast theyre cracking down on sex based abortions.. and there population..

oh, wait, those things shouldnt be problems in the first place.

china is fucked up. and were fucked up that were still outsourcing to them.

70Challenger 01-06-2006 02:17 PM

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I agree, we are all fucked if we dont do something about China, they will become the worlds next super power, because really what does America have to offer, we dont produce ANYTHING anymore!!!

J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 02:35 PM

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that was extremely ignorant statement 70

the US produces the most out of any country in the world...

our GDP is more than twice as much as any country, and more than the entire EU

california has a GSP that is more than a lot of countries

fyi, the thumbs down was about china, not microsoft....

jinxy 01-06-2006 02:43 PM

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everyone knows china is fucked. thats why all the rational asians who have the chance come over here.

buk9tp 01-06-2006 02:49 PM

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i think whats going to tip the scales. and set chinas super power status into motion is when they start selling cars here in the united states.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...hinacars_x.htm

i think theyll learn from kia tho. and wait till they have a worthwhile product before they sell it. even tho kias new cars are really well built. theyre reputation got damaged from building shitty cars before.. but now theyre building it back up. and we shall see.

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely_Automobile

how china's industry works.

step 1, find a product everyone wants
step 2, find a way to make it better appealing i.e. cheaper price (most of the time), better looks (sometimes) , better quality (rarely)
step 3, mass produce
step 4, sell
step 5, repeat


*edit*

wow... geelys website no longer has an english section

[IMG width=300]http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/876/800pxgeelybeautyleopardatiaa20.jpg[/img]

wow.. looks like there gonna be at the detroit autoshow too

http://www.autonet.ca/News/story.cfm...359880-ap.html

jinxy 01-06-2006 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by buk9tp
i think whats going to tip the scales. and set chinas super power status into motion is when they start selling cars here in the united states.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...hinacars_x.htm

i think theyll learn from kia tho. and wait till they have a worthwhile product before they sell it. even tho kias new cars are really well built. theyre reputation got damaged from building shitty cars before.. but now theyre building it back up. and we shall see.

www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geely_Automobile

how china's industry works.

step 1, find a product everyone wants
step 2, find a way to make it better appealing i.e. cheaper price (by paying children 1 cent an hour to spotweld a vehicle togeather for some lo mein), Ripping off other manufactures designs , better quality (never)
step 3, mass produce
step 4, sell
step 5, repeat


The usa needs to stop with this designed failure ---- and start building things like we did in the 40's again. ------- worthless designed to break cheaply manufactured overpriced plastic products. I have a blender and a mixer made by GE in the 50's, both solid metal. both still work perfectly today. A mutron guitar phaser pedal. Solid metal hand wired, never broken. from the mid 60's, ive bought other brand new chineese made phasers and they break in a year or 2.

buk9tp 01-06-2006 03:07 PM

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same ---- for cars too. all the new ones are designed for faliure...

so u have to change your car every 5 years...

i will never buy a new car.

jinxy 01-06-2006 03:16 PM

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Yep, and notice how they keep geting closer and closer with the dates where they redesign the whole line of cars. so even if your car doesnt break you're now driving an older looking out of date car. and it makes vein people go buy new cars again.

70Challenger 01-06-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
that was extremely ignorant statement 70

the US produces the most out of any country in the world...

our GDP is more than twice as much as any country, and more than the entire EU

california has a GSP that is more than a lot of countries

fyi, the thumbs down was about china, not microsoft....

Ok i shouldnt have listed that they way I did, i ment to say that our net production and exporting is falling off and if this trend continues we will fail to produce anything by compairison to the uprising economies around us

just wait an see, if things keep going as they have, I will be right

J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 03:54 PM

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Real gross domestic product -- the output of goods and services produced by labor and property
located in the United States -- increased at an annual rate of 4.1 percent in the third quarter of 2005,
according to final estimates released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the second quarter, real
GDP increased 3.3 percent.

jinxy 01-06-2006 03:56 PM

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to bad the things we're making are industrial based production items to assist in overseas manufacturing. from companys like motoman.

J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 03:56 PM

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only people that will buy those chink cars are other chinks

J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 03:59 PM

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China's unemployment roughly 10%; substantial unemployment and underemployment in rural areas

jinxy 01-06-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
only people that will buy those chink cars are other chinks

and fags. fags always buy cheep new cars. like suzuki's and kia's

Dx 101 01-06-2006 04:06 PM

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i think china will gain power well get pissed and start and war and then well be so fucked we becaome lower than canada on the whole scale :'(

the governmaent should lie to us. saying there are alians out there so the world becomes one and we accually try and advance as a culture/species and not as indeviduals. but guess what thats never going to happen becasue humans are stupid animals that only think for themselves. sux

B16CRXT 01-06-2006 04:10 PM

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damn that car was ugly as ----. :-X

J-SMITH69 01-06-2006 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dx 101
i think china will gain power well get pissed and start and war and then well be so fucked we becaome lower than canada on the whole scale :'(

the governmaent should lie to us. saying there are alians out there so the world becomes one and we accually try and advance as a culture/species and not as indeviduals. but guess what thats never going to happen becasue humans are stupid animals that only think for themselves. sux

dumbest thing ive ever heard, ---- one world government you dumbass

buk9tp 01-06-2006 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by B16CRXT
damn that car was ugly as ----. :-X

all new cars are ugly as ----.


wewocome to china motows ^-^

howm of da by one git one fweee kaass ^-^

FACT

chinas unemployment ~20%
our unemployment ~5.5%

chinas gdp $7.262 trillion
our gdp $11.75 trillion

so were cool right? were like.. almost double there right?

check it.

our gdp growth rate 4.4%
chinas gdp growth rate 9.1% (2004) <=== something to worry about.

-source cia world factbook.

and btw that growth rate is up from 7% in 2001.
and im sure those are being conservative. so like 06 its gonna hit 11%? i dont know..

DONT FORGET, that china is intentionally keeping the value of the yen DIRT ------- cheap! and we dont care as long as we can outsource to them right? and our dollar buys more ---- there right?

now what if they were to revamp there currency system. kinda like the euro? they would own us, IMO its creeping up. and no one gives a ----. but sooner or later. it will be everyones problem.

buk9tp 01-06-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
dumbest thing ive ever heard, ---- one world government you dumbass

where on spaceship earth. and a spaceship with 191 ship captains wont work because everyone wants to do something else , we need ONE captain.








just shitting you.
:P

buk9tp 01-06-2006 04:59 PM

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check it,

i like how he has a pessimistic gdp growth rate too... and his real growthrate is actually higher now :X


Table of Projected Growth Rates

Following are the projections for estimated growth over the next 20 years in the US and Chinese economies:
The starting figures for GDP and actual growth rates are taken from the CIA World Factbook. Values and projections are in millions of US dollars.


The long-term growth rate for each economy is taken from the UN Human Development Report.


The US long-term growth rate is actually reported at 2.0% by the UN report, but other estimates suggest that US GDP inadequately measures the impact of technological innovations which disrupt normal estimates of economic growth (downward price pressures on advanced computer technology, for example, may cause the share of GDP contributed by the computing sector to shrink or stay level even though it represents large returns to investment and vastly improved productivity). For this reason (and in order to illustrate that even a full percentage point improvement in growth cannot fully insulate the US from China's rapid growth), the estimate for long-term US growth is over-estimated to 3.0%.


The pessimistic estimate for growth is simply a rough figure that may reasonably be assumed to be the low end of what either economy might reasonably expect over the intermediate term, in both cases about 1/3 lower than actual growth in 2003.
In the real world, these growth rates may vary widely from year to year, but this forecast does not presume to represent a sophisticated model with multiple probabilities but rather a functional estimate projecting what is likely to occur if present patterns hold true.
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9971/china4bm.jpg

G2turbo_terror 01-06-2006 05:28 PM

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Well China is in its industrial revolution so in the next decade things will become interesting. Our 50K a year middle class will prolly cease to exist.

China is hard to compete with on certain levels, Samsonite (sp?)luggage doesn't make their own product anymore. It was cheaper for them to buy there own rips offs and put there labels on them.
But on the other hand they don't know what to do if they can't copy it. A co-worker of my dads patented/manufactured a product and he knew he was gonna get ripped off by the chineese so for kicks he added things to the design that were utterly usless. Once he got a hold of the knock off there they were, two hole and two pins that served no purpose what so ever, just as he had expected.

Dibble 01-06-2006 05:32 PM

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China is going to have a civil war sometime in the next 100years. The youth of the country have had enough.

buk9tp 01-06-2006 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by G2turbo_terror
China is hard to compete with on certain levels, Samsonite (sp?)luggage doesn't make their own product anymore. It was cheaper for them to buy there own rips offs and put there labels on them.

that explains why my dad 50+ year old Samsonite briefcase lasted forever.. (and i still use it from time to time) and my mom bought him one as a gift... and that thing just fell apart..

<insert terrorist breifcase bomb joke here>

jinxy 01-06-2006 05:45 PM

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well breifcases always fall apart when you put bombs in them :P

the samsonite bags from the 50's were anti-terrorist bags. lol

70Challenger 01-06-2006 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rawr
to bad the things we're making are industrial based production items to assist in overseas manufacturing. from companys like motoman.

+1

buk9tp 01-11-2006 08:30 AM

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060111/...ge/china_trade


China's trade surplus surged to $101.9 billion in 2005, more than triple the $32 billion gap recorded the year before

With total global trade of $1.42 trillion, China is now the world's third-biggest trading nation

The figures were largely in line with expectations, but they were likely to intensify pressure for Beijing to loosen foreign exchange controls that U.S. officials and other critics contend keep the Chinese currency, the yuan, undervalued, making Chinese exports relatively cheap in overseas markets.
forsome reason.. all of a sudden this chart doesnt seem too far fetched.


baldur 01-11-2006 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by rawr
and fags. fags always buy cheep new cars. like suzuki's and kia's

And Hondas and Toyotas and Mazdas... ;)

USS 01-11-2006 09:36 AM

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And this is why I hate when big corporate companies outsource jobs. My mom lost her job because of that, and so did a few close family friends. It sucks ass when a company goes from nothing to someting in a few years, then goes public, then in another few years decides they want some chinese ----------ers to produce the product >:(

The Chinese quality of living is going up as their population growth decreases. They're eventually going to bypass the US in production unless we do something about outsourcing.

dragon 01-11-2006 09:41 AM

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someone said china doesn't have the potential to be a superpower thats not true. There econmoy has been growing and growing since 2000. They are one of the reason why are gas prices is high because of the supply and demand. They were consider the fastest growing economy in 2004. There economy has been growing at least 10% a year more than most countries. Thats all my social studies class has been talking about china's economic growth.

Tom-Guy 01-11-2006 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by buk9tp
china is fucked up. and were fucked up that were still outsourcing to them.

What? Are you saying you have a problem with SSAC, OBX, smileytools/MiTec, and boomslang? That is positively un-American!

jdmvaaj 01-11-2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
only people that will buy those chink cars are other chinks


so i guess just about everybody on HMT is a chink then? since most of us drive Hondas...

J-SMITH69 01-11-2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmvaaj

so i guess just about everybody on HMT is a chink then? since most of us drive Hondas...

i was speaking about chinese cars.

Tom-Guy 01-11-2006 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by buk9tp
how china's industry works.

step 1, find a product everyone wants
step 2, find a way to make it better appealing i.e. cheaper price (most of the time), better looks (sometimes) , better quality (rarely)
step 3, mass produce
step 4, sell
step 5, repeat

step 1, gather underpants
step 2, ???
step 3, profit

buk9tp 01-12-2006 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jdmvaaj

so i guess just about everybody on HMT is a chink then? since most of us drive Hondas...

he was talking about china motors cars.. you should read.. then reread. then read one more time ;)


Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
step 1, gather underpants
step 2, ???
step 3, profit


http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/9605/phase12fi.jpg
Gnome: phase1 collect underpants...



http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4209/phase22ug.jpg
Gnome: phase2 *silence*



http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8826/phase36av.jpg
Gnome: phase3 profit!

:P






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