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1337 05-07-2006 11:36 PM

Loosening some CV shafts
 
The ZC swap in my CRX got stopped by some stupid ass gook who tightened up my axles too tight. I Had a 3 foot long Snap on breaker bar, and a pipe for the floor jack (4ft) as a cheater pipe. Between me and my buddy both budging with the brakes fully engaged we could not break the 32 nut on the shaft :X. That ------- breaker bar was almost making a 90 degree curve by the time we called it quits.

My friend suggested heating the nut up with a torch and then trying again with the breaker bar. Out of all the Honda's I've worked on I've never had a nut this tight with the exception of all the crank bolts. Anyone have any suggestions/ideas that come to mind when trying this sort of ----? On a side note while disconnecting all the hoses/clips i noticed one of my motor mounts is missing a bolt:X

90dx 05-07-2006 11:45 PM

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Heat up the nut and hit it with the breaker bar should come off for sure.I hate people that ---- reef stuff on :3

Donald125 05-07-2006 11:54 PM

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on the toughest one i`ve work on, i used a breaker bar with a 10ft+ cheater pipe, with someone step on the brake to crank it loose LOL.

1337 05-08-2006 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
on the toughest one i`ve work on, i used a breaker bar with a 10ft+ cheater pipe, with someone step on the brake to crank it loose LOL.

I really doubted that the breaker bar was going to hold with the amount of force we were putting on it, a 6 foot long bar (including the cheater pipe) and 2 200 pound guys cranking at that ---- would just make the car move and groan in different places (brakes fully applied)

Donald125 05-08-2006 12:04 AM

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mine holded up, it was one of those made in china 2 feet braker bar from autozone :1. There`s just not enough room to push it down, so instead one of my friend had to hold it in the front and i had to "lift" the pipe lol

Tatakai 05-08-2006 12:07 AM

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i remember first losening the axle nut on my wrecked civ, bitch was TIGHT like a virgin. 3', 1/2" dive snap on breaker bar + 215lb guy literally jumping on it. almost landed head-first onto the cement when it broke lose :X

1337 05-08-2006 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
mine holded up, it was one of those made in china 2 feet braker bar from autozone :1. There`s just not enough room to push it down, so instead one of my friend had to hold it in the front and i had to "lift" the pipe lol

Tried the lifting technique, we ended up lifting the car :X. Might try jumping on it next time, but most likely will just get the torch and have at it.

ghettoturbo 05-08-2006 12:10 AM

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you are hitting the nut out of the slot in the axle right?...invest in some air tools nigga

1337 05-08-2006 12:21 AM

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Have all the air tools (for work) but no air compressor, nigga. When you find a ZC swap with full harness,ecu tranny and exhaust for 600 you cant pass it up and end up eating into your air compressor money. Only power tool i have at disposal at my house is my makita 3/8 impact, couldn't live life without it. I highly doubt a impact will loosen this ----------er since the crank bolt came loose with the breaker bar and no cheater pipe :X

ghettoturbo 05-08-2006 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1337
Have all the air tools (for work) but no air compressor, nigga. When you find a ZC swap with full harness,ecu tranny and exhaust for 600 you cant pass it up and end up eating into your air compressor money. Only power tool i have at disposal at my house is my makita 3/8 impact, couldn't live life without it. I highly doubt a impact will loosen this ----------er since the crank bolt came loose with the breaker bar and no cheater pipe :X

a good gun is your best friend...ive taken them off with mine without even beating the nut out of the groove. the other thing ive done is wedge a pipe in between the lugs instead of trying to hold the breaks when youre doing it by hand

Donald125 05-08-2006 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 1337
Tried the lifting technique, we ended up lifting the car :X. Might try jumping on it next time, but most likely will just get the torch and have at it.

LOL i think it happened as well just have some one sit inside LOL

BarelyBoosted 05-08-2006 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Donald125
mine holded up, it was one of those made in china 2 feet braker bar from autozone :1. There`s just not enough room to push it down, so instead one of my friend had to hold it in the front and i had to "lift" the pipe lol

I bought one of those pieces of ---- that had a lifetime warrenty, and me and my friend broke it, walked back it got another and about 3 more before they ran out so we ended up putting the bar on the ground and put the car in reverse and dumped the clutch, both bolt and bar broke.

bumblezc 05-08-2006 11:44 AM

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1" Impact, and about 195psi of air rattling it!! Thing will break ayhting off. Even your wrist if you don't hold tight!!!!

danronian 05-08-2006 11:46 AM

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We had this same problem this past weekend on my friend's 95 accord axle nut.
We had a 12ft pipe on the breaker bar. Broke the craftsman ----, and then another. Then we bent the pipe in half. And yes, we heated it with the acytlene torch for a long ass time and used the impact gun on it for hrs. We ended up cutting it up with a cut off wheel until the nut dropped off the axle. The axle ended up being fucked but this was our only option.
I've never had this much trouble with an axle nut....a crank shaft pulley nut, yes, but an axle nut, no. It looked lilke the ------- who installed the nut used some kind of epoxy to hold it on (who knows why), b/c the inside of it had some strane coloring to the threads, and that would partially explain why the ---- it took us a day to get it off.

Loserkidwac 05-08-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by danronian
We had this same problem this past weekend on my friend's 95 accord axle nut.
We had a 12ft pipe on the breaker bar. Broke the craftsman ----, and then another. Then we bent the pipe in half. And yes, we heated it with the acytlene torch for a long ass time and used the impact gun on it for hrs. We ended up cutting it up with a cut off wheel until the nut dropped off the axle. The axle ended up being fucked but this was our only option.
I've never had this much trouble with an axle nut....a crank shaft pulley nut, yes, but an axle nut, no. It looked lilke the ------- who installed the nut used some kind of epoxy to hold it on (who knows why), b/c the inside of it had some strane coloring to the threads, and that would partially explain why the ---- it took us a day to get it off.

Word... you beat me too it, This thing was insane...cutting WAS the only option evne that isn't easy too many good tools saw there end that day :'(

Donald125 05-08-2006 02:56 PM

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FYI sometimes it will be easier when your break it loosen by TIGHTENING it first

N1ghtM0nkey 05-08-2006 03:26 PM

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Sudden force helps too, just standing on it won't get the job done. I've never had a lot of trouble with an axle nut, I've always put a 1/2" drive on there along with a trailer hitch...yes, a trailer hitch. You're not going to break that ----.

Oh, and coca cola. I've always used some coke on that ---- too.

danronian 05-08-2006 07:57 PM

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Did u just say not break that ----?
We bent a pipe in half, i've broke 3 different 1/2 drive crafstman ratchets, 2 breaker bars.

We did try tightening it too with one pretty massive impact wrench, that thing was the bitchiest nut i've ever encountered in my life. Cutting was the only option.

sakpase 05-08-2006 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by danronian
We had this same problem this past weekend on my friend's 95 accord axle nut.
We had a 12ft pipe on the breaker bar. Broke the craftsman ----, and then another. Then we bent the pipe in half. And yes, we heated it with the acytlene torch for a long ass time and used the impact gun on it for hrs. We ended up cutting it up with a cut off wheel until the nut dropped off the axle. The axle ended up being fucked but this was our only option.
I've never had this much trouble with an axle nut....a crank shaft pulley nut, yes, but an axle nut, no. It looked lilke the ------- who installed the nut used some kind of epoxy to hold it on (who knows why), b/c the inside of it had some strane coloring to the threads, and that would partially explain why the ---- it took us a day to get it off.

I would bet yours had loctite on it, I don't know why anyone in their right mind would put loctite on an axle nut expecially when there is a tang that get's bent down to help it not to move. BTW the damn thing only gets torque to 135lbs.


As for u 37, take a 5 or 10lb sledge and give the stem one good whack, don't hit it a couple of times, just one good one, and then hit it with the impact wrench. I'll put money that bitch comes loose.

1337 05-08-2006 09:20 PM

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I know those accords are -----s to do brake jobs on, once at a shop i worked at it took 4 different guys slamming the ---- out of the hub with a slide hammer with penetrating lube every 5 minutes to get the ------- hub off. Hopefully the torch is enough to get this off, else it's another week to wait so i can afford a air compressor ;D

Slo_crx1 05-08-2006 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ghettoturbo
a good gun is your best friend...ive taken them off with mine without even beating the nut out of the groove. the other thing ive done is wedge a pipe in between the lugs instead of trying to hold the breaks when youre doing it by hand

I tried that with mine...used a 3/4" thich solid bar that was 6 foot long. Took the torch to the nut, got it cherry red, then broke 4 1/2" drive snap-on and mac breaker bars and bent the 3/4" bar into a fish hook shape >:( I ended up swapping out the entire hub and axle. :P

danronian 05-08-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
I ended up swapping out the entire hub and axle. :P

We traded in the entire spindle/hub/axle into the parts store when we needed to give them a core axle that we couldnt detach. :8
I can't believe they took that ----. We chewed up an entire cut off wheel unsuccesfully trying to cut the nut off of the one.

Those accord brakes did look like a bitch. Glad I didnt have to touch them.


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