Originally Posted by BLACKSI

i hate this bullshit :P

Originally Posted by surfer

i agree, i didnt realise it was going to have this kind of reaction

Oh and FYI random, America joined in WWII when it was nearly done, at the point when we had nearly finished the job, I think you watched pearl harbour too many times

Originally Posted by random-strike

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

haha you ------- douche bag, get a ------- clue would you please.

hilter was in most of europe when the united states joined the war.

hilter would have conquered europe if the US did not join the war.


http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar...ne/ww2time.htm

read up on history you limp wristed soclialist cum guzzler.

ive never seen the movie pearl harbor.

but i have seen tora! tora! tora!

Originally Posted by BlackDragon

WRONG! Do u really know why hitler lost RS? We weren't the reason why Hitler lost the war it was RUSSIA. Hitler did the same thing like all big headed tyrants do throughout history...Got greedy and thought he was unstoppable and didn't realize what advantages his enemy had in certain environment. He tried to take over Russia and the rest of europe all at once. He tried to defeat Russia before winter but failed. Yes he did attack Russia with mass forced but could not bring them down. Each day Russia grew stronger. eventually, they kept fighting and figthing trying to bet Russia during the winter but was going nowhere, by the time the next winter came they chance of winning was lost.

We only joined the war because of Japan. But since germany and japan were allies the germans declare war on us. The Allies Asked us for help and said "If you help us defeat the germans we will help you defeat japan. So we focus our troops to germany first. After Hitler lost we then went after Japan. We only helped there chances of winning but really Hitler miscalculation of Russia is why he lost.

Originally Posted by random-strike

hilter attacking russia expedited the winning of the war. the allies would've still won, but it would have taken much longer and would cost many more lives.

no one helped significantly with Japan.

bd go read the WWII timeline again

Originally Posted by BlackDragon

i have rs you were ------- wrong.You said hitler lost because of the us when it was him trying to take two fronts at once. He tried taking russia while fighting the rest of europe. We weren't the final result why he lost buddy it was them trying to fight russia during the winter. we helped and yes eventually after a few years the ALLIES would have won but he lost because of his results at russia.

And i never said they did help us with japan they said they would. But we discover the A bomb and use that instead of losing so many people.

Hitler did the same thing napolean did.


You go read the history books buddy :P

Originally Posted by random-strike

you are so black and white BD. you attempts to sound smart are not working

one has to realize this: if we had not entered the war, and started winning on the western front and in africa. could hilter have commited more troops to the eastern front? and taken moscow before the winter? or have held off a russian counter offensive (with huge US support materials for tanks/weapons/ammo/ext) and then pushed in the spring into moscow? you know that hilter was in eye's sight of moscow and attacking parts of the city (and shelling the rest)

not everything is so simple BD.

i await your reply (bd goes off to skim through his HS history book)