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A little accord project
I begged, pleaded, and nagged one of my roommates to turbo his accord. I showed him a few websites hmt, ht, and just various forums to spark some interest. When I had my turbo civic (rip :'() I let him drive it a few times... yet again to spark some more interest. Then he started buying some parts. Yes!
Purchased: sfp manifold turbo (from thunderbird) intercooler piping (not quite enough... but almost) a crushed downpipe (it looked like someone torn the end off... how??? ) a bov (like rfl knock off) dsm injectors After getting the 'kit' we found the good, the bad, and the ugly. Injectors....the pintel caps were bad... errr missing. He bought new(er) dsm injectors. He wanted to keep the stock fog lights and the intercooler 'appeared' too large. The previous owner of this 'kit' had it on an accord and said the fog lights would not fit. So, my roommate bought an intercooler from a thunderbird.. or some ford. Well I say 'appeared' too large because, in fact it fit perfectly. Now my friend has 2 intercoolers and 8 injectors. Maybe we can twin turbo it and add a secondary fuel rail, maybe not. The goal of the project was just to make the car faster and keep all the stock comforts (a/c, p/s). A slim fan was needed for the task and the two stock fans got the ax. The 'downpipe' that came with the kit, well.... My buddy works at a trailer suspension place and had a laser burnt flange made. He drew it on CAD by putting the gasket on the monitor and tracing it.. tracing most of it. Instead of following all of the contours of the gasket he just made it easier for the laser burner and connected some of the curves. This has no effect on flow, it just makes it more 'bulky' on the outside. (this would turn into a problem later). We make the downpipe, and we fit it to the turbo. We assumed that the wastegate is set at 12 psi-ish. So next step was welding a nut on the actuator rod in an attempt to make it adjustable. That works. My roommate puts it together (in his room) and says 'look at this' he tries to move the wastegate open, that flange I told you about before, it blocked the arm. Awesome. So, off to the grinder. All that is done. Now the wastegate moves, it is adjustable. great! Exhaust question. What to do. Make a straight 3in with no muffler. Dump it right before the gas tank straight down. Well many ideas went through my roommate's head. He finally bought a muffler from a local shop (that just went out of business) - I guess we are stuck now. No returning that if you don't like it.... Turned out really nice though. Everything got assembled and he drove it back to the apartment open downpipe. We took my welder and borrowed my girlfiriend's grandparent's garage (say that five times fast). We made the exhaust with all 3in tubing. (the downpipe is 2.5in) It has one slip joint and the rest is one piece. That takes a day, and we had our fair share of problems... such as welding the o2 sensor plug like 2 inches from where it should be. Ooops. It only rubs the axles. Now I am glad he bought 2. Not only that, we get the back to the muffler... well almost back there and ask 'where is the next bend'. My roommate held up a small 45, I mean, this at best might be considered a 45. It was about a 2in piece of a cut bend that would about net us a 20 degree bend. So.... Project del sol (from my other posts) was harvested. We took his downpipe and used it to finish back to the muffler. So, we have enough injectors for a god dam v8 but not enough piping to make the exhaust. Make sure when you buy parts you buy the right ones.... That was a 2 hour trip (------- cedar point traffic) to my house to get the pipe (the place we were working on it was less than 10 minutes away. So, 2 o2 sensor bungs, 8 injectors, 2 intercoolers, 2 blow off valves and countless drinking nights talking about what to buy (along with 2 exhaust flanges that never showed up, ---- ebay). It is turbod. It was running on a basemap (he chipped his own ecu) on the p28 with uberdata. We tried to see if it would log with my laptop. My laptop just does not like it. (it gets better and better doesn't it?). So, he takes it to the other roommate's cousin's shop (Raceline Fine Tuned, in Cinci Ohio) and now it is set up on chrome. The wastegate is set too high so the next step is an external wastegate and then some more dyno tuning. On to some pics. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG59001.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG58881.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG58841.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG58931.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG58971.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03390.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03391.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03392.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03393.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03394.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03396.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03397.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03438.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03439.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03440.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03437.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03459.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03464.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../CIMG58811.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...l/DSC03465.jpg |
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Nice job it looks good. |
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Looks like a clean setup, how does it pull?
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Why do people post these things without video...
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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Why do people post these things without video...
And the car is noticably quicker. With the flex section it held 9 psi, then when we replaced it with the aluminum pipe it is holding 12psi. I think the flex was nice little boost controller. He wanted to keep it safe and check it with a wideband. If my laptop would have played nice it would probably pull a little harder. That and the fact that the friend that was 'supposed' to let me use his lm-1 decided to pull a gun on someone else....now i can't. |
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well, does it pull good?
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is that a wagon!?!
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Originally Posted by rawr
is that a wagon!?!
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the car does pull nice compared to stock. i don't have times or anything. i could draw a butt dyno graph for ya. if you multiple the figures by 45% you get dynojet numbers. Ya, it is even better than the Mustang dyno, what can i say?
the basemap. it has been good for a few good rippers. About 3 weeks worth to be exact. if it blows up, i guess project two is motor swap. maybe I will have some more pics of that.... as long as he doesnt drive it like the kid who bought my civic drove it. it should last, more than 2 weeks. |
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Yeah all I have to work with right now is a digi camera too :P No sound though. My phone records decent video and sound buuuttt... kinda choppy at times, only has a 200mhz proc.
Setup looks pretty nice though. Looking forward to the video. |
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:6 is that an old tbird turbo? does it spool pretty quick on the motor? Hold to redline.. what software/hardware u using for the tune? 12 psi? thats a respectable number, i ran 12psi with that exact same turbo on a b16 setup... it had a little kick to it...
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the car feels naturally asperated. It is near instant spool. In between gears, the gauge reads vac then right to 10psi. It does look like it spools, it is just there. The car is running a rough tune on chrome so he is not beating on it too much. He wants to lower the boost to under 10psi on stock internals. Apparently the injectors were hitting 100% duty cycle on the dyno. So they did not really tune it. Like i said before with looking for the external wastegate to hold a steady boost and then tune it when that is finished.
He does not need to drive during the week as we all walk to classes. So it will be alright on a basemap for a while. |
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its crome.
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nice setup, I like the modded izuze npr intercooler
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Came out pretty clean good job :) Get it tuned and get some ripper vids :y
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Nice setup man. Intercooler looks pimp
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When you said t-bird turbo I was expecting a 60/63 garrett snail and not a ihi testicle. Ehh whatever works.
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is that an atuomatic? :l
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Originally Posted by Jorsher
Why do people post these things without video...
I have one, but I know most people don't By the way it looks nice, clean and solid. Is it a 4dr or a 2dr. I wanted to get a 2dr ex, but the deal didn't work out. |
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my roomate posted up all the info for me, because i dont post on forums too much, but its my car
It's a 1995 2 dr 5 spd ex, got about 128k on the odo, so theres plenty of life left in it(hopefully) once i get an external wg and retune, (will prolly stay on crome) i will auctually get to beat on it, but right now im driving pretty conservativly i used the small turbo because i got it in a "premade accord kit" and didnt feel like changing it. I also didnt want a bunch of turbo lag, so i like it. When we were on the dyno, the turbo never really seemed to run out of breath. the f22b1 heads dont flow very good after like mid 5000 rpm anyways, so i think its stupid to have a huge turbo that dosent spool till like 3-3500. I've heard a million times that its too small for my engine, but whatever. When i went to tune it, when vtec kicked in, it instantly spooled to like 12 psi, (even under very little throttle) making it super lean, so w the stock fpr, we ran out of duty cycle on the injectors. also hitting boost that fast made me a lil nervous with all stock internals. so we killed vtec for now. which sucks, bc it sounded sweet when all 4 valves opend up all in all, i just wanted a nice increase in power, nothing to crazy and very reliable, so far im really happy w it, and once i get it completely finished, i think ill only like it more -thanks for all urs guys support, like i said, i never really posted b4, bc i hate noob comments(which i prolly would have made), but i learned everything i needed to know just from looking around forums like this one |
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:6 damn dude i wish i would have played it safe with my first boost setup.... oh well thats why there was the second.. and third.. and fourth... >:D they've all been pretty fun... :y good luck witht he project.. keep us posted....
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Looks good, lil sleeper action. NICE!!!!
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Big Daddy likee mucho... Im at 15psi (tuned to 17) with over 300/300 on mine for over 20 k miles so far (boosted it at 140 k) I put headstuds and a new oem head gasket in it, and beat itr regularly... but you have to tune it soooon, or you WILL be sorry... Nice job though. Nice to see another boosted Accord!!!!!!
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post naked pics of rollmodels girlfriend already...if shes 18 yet.
haha my mom had an accord. i guess it was ok. |
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