Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
06-14-2004, 01:47 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
Originally Posted by Doofnoil
hydrogen cell cars are the future, the problem is retrofitting gas stations, but "guess who" has already developed an inhouse hydrogen fueling station that goes in your garage and uses water and electricity (duh) to form the hydrogen.
This is a correct prediction, just not 100 years, maybe a few thousand.
BTW, was this article based on "The day after tomorrow" LMAO.
06-14-2004, 02:02 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
as opposed to hydroelectric, nuclear, wind, solar, tidal...
and no, it's not valid in the least, the only thing that would cause all of the worlds govts to collapse and n new ones to form would be an asteroid hitting the earth, in which case the entire human race would be wiped out. Evolution of society doesn't go backwards, we have a notion of currency and laws, we wouldn't automatically go back to the beginnings of man wearing loin cloths and chucking spears. This is ofcourse based upon the notion that energy is somehow destroyed by it's use, and somehow the world's energy supply and water will somehow dissapear from our environment, it's bullshit. I can think of alot of things that can be "reverse engineered" and not be derived from the use of fossil fuels... how about running engines off of alcohol, which can be fermented from anything and is what original engines were designed to run off of anyway.
and no, it's not valid in the least, the only thing that would cause all of the worlds govts to collapse and n new ones to form would be an asteroid hitting the earth, in which case the entire human race would be wiped out. Evolution of society doesn't go backwards, we have a notion of currency and laws, we wouldn't automatically go back to the beginnings of man wearing loin cloths and chucking spears. This is ofcourse based upon the notion that energy is somehow destroyed by it's use, and somehow the world's energy supply and water will somehow dissapear from our environment, it's bullshit. I can think of alot of things that can be "reverse engineered" and not be derived from the use of fossil fuels... how about running engines off of alcohol, which can be fermented from anything and is what original engines were designed to run off of anyway.
06-14-2004, 04:43 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
Originally Posted by shortyz
lets see how many americans on here take the side of:
"---- the world WE have enough to last 80 years"
cheers
"---- the world WE have enough to last 80 years"
cheers
Originally Posted by slowcivic
there is NO WAY I am reading all that........
06-14-2004, 07:31 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
electric cars are a dumb idea... how do you make the electricity to power the cars and charge them? Currently that involves burning coal or natural gas, nuclear power or hydro electric power... your emissions would be much worse if everybody switched to an electric vehicle. Hydrogen cells and alternative power like that is much much better than electric cars etc.
06-15-2004, 07:03 AM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
Originally Posted by Doofnoil
as opposed to hydroelectric, nuclear, wind, solar, tidal...
and no, it's not valid in the least, the only thing that would cause all of the worlds govts to collapse and n new ones to form would be an asteroid hitting the earth, in which case the entire human race would be wiped out. Evolution of society doesn't go backwards, we have a notion of currency and laws, we wouldn't automatically go back to the beginnings of man wearing loin cloths and chucking spears. This is ofcourse based upon the notion that energy is somehow destroyed by it's use, and somehow the world's energy supply and water will somehow dissapear from our environment, it's bullshit. I can think of alot of things that can be "reverse engineered" and not be derived from the use of fossil fuels... how about running engines off of alcohol, which can be fermented from anything and is what original engines were designed to run off of anyway.
and no, it's not valid in the least, the only thing that would cause all of the worlds govts to collapse and n new ones to form would be an asteroid hitting the earth, in which case the entire human race would be wiped out. Evolution of society doesn't go backwards, we have a notion of currency and laws, we wouldn't automatically go back to the beginnings of man wearing loin cloths and chucking spears. This is ofcourse based upon the notion that energy is somehow destroyed by it's use, and somehow the world's energy supply and water will somehow dissapear from our environment, it's bullshit. I can think of alot of things that can be "reverse engineered" and not be derived from the use of fossil fuels... how about running engines off of alcohol, which can be fermented from anything and is what original engines were designed to run off of anyway.
06-15-2004, 08:59 AM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
The perfect alternative fuel is methane. The hard part is how to collect it. The cattle industry produces enough methane every single day to power all our cars. It's clean burning and renewable and curently free. We just need to figure out how to collect cow farts.
06-15-2004, 12:44 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
Sounds like more stuff from John Tutor followers...
Anyone here heard of John Tutor? He claims to have been sent back in time to the year 1978 to collect some information on some outdated computer programs, and stopped off in 1999 and participated in a couple forums for about a year before "taking off" to his own time of about 2040.....
He was very open about his time travel device, took pictures of it and posted them, and answered any questions to the "best of his ability". Althought he claims that he only had basic operational knowledge of his time travel device, and had little conceptual knowledge of it.
He claims that in the very near future the US will become a police like state due to our focus on security (this was told before 9/11) and eventually the police will arrest and hold people w/o trial on the basis of national security. Eventually over time small revolts will snowball into all out civil war that will expand across the globe.
The same basic elements are all there...distrust of the government, impending doom, etc. I dont personally believe all of that, but the stories do show some half truths, such as all our power on a macro level is fossil fuel based (coal/natural gas).
We could actually get along pretty good w/o oil. Its coal and N/G that would really kill us, but even then we can go nuclear, and fire waste into space say on a course for the sun. The sun in itself is a giant nuclear blast furnace running on Hydrogen. But doing that would require a lot of infrastructure
Anyone here heard of John Tutor? He claims to have been sent back in time to the year 1978 to collect some information on some outdated computer programs, and stopped off in 1999 and participated in a couple forums for about a year before "taking off" to his own time of about 2040.....
He was very open about his time travel device, took pictures of it and posted them, and answered any questions to the "best of his ability". Althought he claims that he only had basic operational knowledge of his time travel device, and had little conceptual knowledge of it.
He claims that in the very near future the US will become a police like state due to our focus on security (this was told before 9/11) and eventually the police will arrest and hold people w/o trial on the basis of national security. Eventually over time small revolts will snowball into all out civil war that will expand across the globe.
The same basic elements are all there...distrust of the government, impending doom, etc. I dont personally believe all of that, but the stories do show some half truths, such as all our power on a macro level is fossil fuel based (coal/natural gas).
We could actually get along pretty good w/o oil. Its coal and N/G that would really kill us, but even then we can go nuclear, and fire waste into space say on a course for the sun. The sun in itself is a giant nuclear blast furnace running on Hydrogen. But doing that would require a lot of infrastructure
06-15-2004, 01:05 PM
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Re:Letter from future (fake, but interesting)
the things about the solar panels is great
"the solar panel will never make up the power it took to build it in its entire life"
and also vancouver is setting up hydrogen filling stations all the way from cali to whistler i believe, something to promote the olympics in 2010 here. this will be neat cause the biggest R&D company is right here in vancouver "ballard"
buy stock now while they are still "mildly" cheap.
"the solar panel will never make up the power it took to build it in its entire life"
and also vancouver is setting up hydrogen filling stations all the way from cali to whistler i believe, something to promote the olympics in 2010 here. this will be neat cause the biggest R&D company is right here in vancouver "ballard"
buy stock now while they are still "mildly" cheap.
