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Dx 101 06-20-2008 11:46 AM

legal issues: nyc where u at
 
cliffs notes: 38g coke, 28g weed - 12:10am in the bronx. (not mine but was def gunna smoke some weed on the way back.) and i was driving. got let out with no bond and a pta.

my ? is how hard are the nyc courts to "beat" i was planning on using my AR but if i can some how say it wasnt mine and get away with out using my AR that would be great . if any one can help with info let me know

Jorsher 06-20-2008 11:49 AM

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Quit traveling with that much coke/weed and don't do ---- to get you pulled over.

I have no pity for people that choose to break the law by carrying that amount of drugs, then break the law driving around and get caught. That's just stupid. How hard is it to follow basic traffic laws while carrying that around? Although I don't agree with how the drug laws are, I don't agree with stupidity either.

Good luck.

t_cel_t 06-20-2008 11:54 AM

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what do you mean use your AR? you mean AR15? >:D you should do that and right before you hit the ground on your last breath yell HMT for life!!!11!!!, also wait for the news cameras to show up :y

RotaryGeek 06-20-2008 12:07 PM

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yeah thats what he meant, ar15.

1991civicsi 06-20-2008 01:23 PM

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Attorney on Retainer?

1991civicsi 06-20-2008 01:26 PM

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Kinda curious, where in Bx?

pissnuts 06-20-2008 02:38 PM

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ask the judge to give you a deferred judgement and you might get lucky ... but nyc+coke = jail time any way you look at it .. unless it wasn't yours ... ;) also i think your lie'n that you had over a zip.5 of coke on you ... who drives around with that ?? you have to be black or a lie'n white guy / spanish american

Tom-Guy 06-20-2008 02:39 PM

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If you had other ppl in the car who ditched ---- you have a case, you just need to have a lawyer.

johntsi 06-20-2008 03:23 PM

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i would have been eatin as much of that yay as i could >:D

Dx 101 06-20-2008 06:33 PM

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jerome ave?

yeah def 38g. i live in ct thats why we were driving. bx cuz it was $900 for the 38g. i wish i had an ar15. it stands for something else. its like your 2nd chance if youve had a spotless record as i do. when your under 18 its called a y.o.= youthful offender and ---- gets whiped clean after 366 days.

lol and i never bout personal ---- other than how to shend my cash so why would i lie. its cool tho not carring if the net believes me just need legal info.

situation was my buddy got a guy to cop off in bx done it a few times with him no prob(he is spanish. im white) get there at 12am norm we do it at 8-10pm. ---- felt funny the whole time but i swollowed it and kept it moving. so guy gets in we drive around the block drop him off 30 sec later TNT from the 52 runs up and pulls my boy out of the car after we dropped his man off. dick tells me to put it park and pulls me out. boom thats what happend. i almost think we were set up by his boy cuz they never got him. but yeah none of it is mine i was just driving.

but we think we have a case becasue i never got my rights read and never signed anything saying i was arrested.


Originally Posted by johntsi
i would have been eatin as much of that yay as i could >:D

and been ---- out of luck when i would get sick in jail f that one been tweeked for a hour and then fucked for 2 days

schim187 06-20-2008 08:31 PM

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DRUGS :D :D :D YAY ;D ;D ;D
GETTING CAUGHT/SET UP ??? :o >:( NOOOO!!

Dx 101 06-20-2008 08:37 PM

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ur telling me and the layer that got me out says he cant rep. me next time im in? kinda odd dude gets me out but cant keep me out. he was a pub defender :l

is there anywhere that i can read my real rights for this situation? like a wikipedia of legal ----?



Ps may have a fs thread to help out my costs

Jorsher 06-20-2008 09:20 PM

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There are forums for free legal advice, but you'll have to google them because I don't remember the addresses.

Just be advised that you probably won't get much of a response without using correct grammar and writing coherent sentences. If you portray yourself as an idiot, I doubt they're going to believe your story.

If it truly wasn't yours, quit hanging around dumbasses that will get you in trouble. It sounds like it WAS yours and you're just trying to keep your ass from getting pounded.

There's a right and wrong way to deal with drugs. Driving around with a bunch of idiots, carrying that much on you, and doing something to get yourself pulled over is not the right way.

fork 06-20-2008 09:48 PM

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Maybe I should start quoting myself. ha

Econo-Box 06-20-2008 09:52 PM

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They dont have to tell you ---- but "You're going to jail" you had coke dude. its a given.

They have to PROVE its yours in order for it to be a case. so in other words you should be like coke no way really? and thats the exent of it. say nothing with out a lawyer.

j3w 06-20-2008 10:09 PM

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Get a ------ lawyer. I had a VERY similar situtaion 6 years ago with guns/4X the amount of blow. I got off with a suspended sentence and no felony. Not saying you'll get the same, just that lawyers have a way sometimes of finding loopholes/cashing in favors with the prosecutor. I don't care if you have to sell your ass on main street, get money and get a ------ lawyer.

Jorsher 06-20-2008 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by fork
Maybe I should start quoting myself. ha

As long as you're not incorrectly labeling someone you don't know jack about, go for it.

I live in Alabama, but am not a redneck. I drive a honduh, but am not a ricer. I like orange chicken, but don't like ZCs. I occasionally do drugs, but am not ignorant druggy scum, and don't appreciate being called one.

This guy is obviously not too bright, have fun.

Smith-02 06-20-2008 10:47 PM

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ARD accelerated rehabilitation disposition or something like that. it lets you work off your 'oh ----, i got caught' with no leniancy in punishment towards you. but when your ARD is completed to satisfaction of your PO, it goes on your record that charges were filed and dropped, basically.

1991civicsi 06-20-2008 11:42 PM

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Jerome Ave, Im not far from Yankee Stadium. I heard of the raid yesterday on 167st.

Tom-Guy 06-21-2008 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by J.H.Christ
Get a ------ GOOD lawyer.

Fixed it for you.

Sometimes you get lawyers who try to hustle you out of money, and then you're in jail and can't do ---- about it.



Originally Posted by Jorsher
I like orange chicken, but don't like ZCs.

We have a ban candidate. Sorry, Jorsher, time to say bye bye to HMT.

Dx 101 06-21-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by c0mpl3x
ARD accelerated rehabilitation disposition or something like that. it lets you work off your 'oh ----, i got caught' with no leniancy in punishment towards you. but when your ARD is completed to satisfaction of your PO, it goes on your record that charges were filed and dropped, basically.

bingo thats the one. and just to let everyone know it realy isnt mine i hate fiendish people and coke/crake brings them on. never stuck anything up my nose that was about booger extration. ive seen most of my "friends" tell me that they would rather b hi than hang out so i hate that ---- to b honest. but i cant knock my boy for doing his thing and flippin it. it just happend to be that the weed on board was what i was interested in. some wonderful stinky sour deisle >:D :'(


and ---- those yankee stadium undercovers i saw three different ones when i was in there and they all had the same jeter jersey on. and speaking of undercovers whoa this one chick acting as a hoe. god damn better looking than the shity doped up ones they were pullin off the streets.

now back to the coke how can i prove its not mine other than having the other guy own up. its been more than three days(and im skinny) so i dont know if a drug test would help. i never use so there is nothing in me any way. it was on his side but if checked it did have my prints on it cuz on the pass up front from the back it fell and i picked it up(god it sounds more like a set up every time i remeber something)


:S :7 :3 :-\ what to do

JoshMO 06-21-2008 07:54 PM

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they got your print on the package, you're the driver. So now you're seriously fucked. That sucks man.

Dx 101 06-21-2008 08:19 PM

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thats what i was thinkin but "the package" was wrapped in paper towle. to get to it to test it they would have to rip it off/discard. there for im not longer on it

does anyone have a local paper for the 17th-18th just wondering if names were printed

JoshMO 06-21-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dx 101
thats what i was thinkin but "the package" was wrapped in paper towle. to get to it to test it they would have to rip it off/discard. there for im not longer on it

does anyone have a local paper for the 17th-18th just wondering if names were printed

thats not what you said earlier...


Originally Posted by Dx 101

it was on his side but if checked it did have my prints on it cuz on the pass up front from the back it fell and i picked it up(god it sounds more like a set up every time i remeber something)


:S :7 :3 :-\ what to do

Either you have amnesia or you're full of ----



Even if thats the case... dude they aren't going to destroy evidence *if I'm understanding your ghetto ass grammar* Your lack of common sense and grammar skills gives me a headache.


Dx 101 06-21-2008 09:09 PM

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um no it makes scence.

"package wrapped in paper towle" falls out of hand from back into front. i pick up and hand to passenger. for cops to test what is in said package they would have to open/unwrap the towle(discarding or distroying evidence ie prints) but this is not me saying this is me thinking out loud. "did they get my prints? no the must have trown away they towle cuz who cares its just a wrapper. there for i "never touched it"
see makes perfect scence and grammar isnt really the issue its the spellin and punctuation

JoshMO 06-21-2008 09:45 PM

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meh they say ignorance is bliss ::)




Live it up man :6

Tom-Guy 06-22-2008 06:56 PM

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Fingerprinting costs a lot of money they wont do it for an open shut possession case get that lawyer be honest with him tell him you were down to smoke some pot but hate the other stuff etc

jmhalder 06-22-2008 07:06 PM

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seems like a GOOD drug test would clear you.... did any of the cops SEE the other people in the car, any way to PROVE they were in the car?

j3w 06-22-2008 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jmhalder
seems like a GOOD drug test would clear you....

clear him of what? you're an idiot if you think pissing clean is going to get him out of possesion with intent to distribute. his best bet is to roll over on his buddy, if he's a snitch type character.

Dx 101 06-23-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J.H.Christ
clear him of what? you're an idiot if you think pissing clean is going to get him out of possesion with intent to distribute. his best bet is to roll over on his buddy, if he's a snitch type character.

not that im a snitch i wont say its mine when its not. but there is also no distrobution charge just possesion.nothing was baged up just what it was.i spoke with a lawer today that is "looking into it" for me but by his tone hes looking at it as a favor to me so it might get thrown to the back burner and i go back on wed for court. so tomarro im callin up the ass to see who has some answers if this guy doesnt come threw.

but then i dont know if i can just go in get a court appointed one just for me to have him use my ar.

Jorsher 06-23-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jmhalder
seems like a GOOD drug test would clear you.... did any of the cops SEE the other people in the car, any way to PROVE they were in the car?

Drug test won't clear you for ----. It might help, but they aren't going to think "well since he doesn't use, obviously he doesn't sell." Any drug dealer worth a ---- knows not to use. Not implying that was the case in this instance...

BTW, "looking into it" sounds a lot like "we'll call you" when looking for a job.

Dx 101 06-24-2008 07:55 PM

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yeah the "ill look into it" didnt sit well with me either(and i havent heard back yet) so last night i got some good numbers and got on the fone. today i got in touch with a real good firm that will be taking my case(for an arm and a leg)

one thing that is kinda fishy to me is that the weed never made it on to the report. and the coke is a d felony which means it was under 500mg? so i dunno if they are lookin out(doubt), kept some for them selves(mostlikely) or i was lyed to by my boy(prob) but since we got out ive tried to get in contact with him and his fone is off :S :-\ so it should be fun tomarrow.

Dx 101 06-27-2008 07:52 PM

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so for anyone that cares i went to court on wed. and got a continuence(sp?) because the lab results of the substance did not come back yet. now on a "funny" side this girl my boy knows slipped and started saying something about a set up she heard about from this guy she knows in bx but then quickly changed up the story because she reliezed we might have been those guys. so im pretty sure we were set up and am glad he has his story and lawer and i have mine. both lawers are saying that we will see no jail time just fines and prob probation.



Racintweek 06-27-2008 09:41 PM

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IMO its all BS.


you are arrested on possesion of 38g of cocaine (felony) and some pot(i'll just say misdemeanor) and you are from out of state. the cops saw you drive up and make the deal, prob on camera.
you would be insanely lucky to get bond let alone PR. most states dont let people who are arrested for crimes that could pull 11 years go on PR.
and cops dont set up the street level buyer, they set up teh dealer's dealer.

if ti happened teh way you said, next time i get pulled for having a kilo in the trunk i'll just tell them i'll sell it and everythign will be ok :S


either it was 3.8g of coke and a joint(which would be dumb to come from CT to get) or you are completely full of ----

j3w 06-27-2008 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Racintweek
either it was 3.8g of coke and a joint(which would be dumb to come from CT to get) or you are completely full of ----

or you rolled over on somebody

sakpase 06-28-2008 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Racintweek
IMO its all BS.


you are arrested on possesion of 38g of cocaine (felony) and some pot(i'll just say misdemeanor) and you are from out of state. the cops saw you drive up and make the deal, prob on camera.
you would be insanely lucky to get bond let alone PR. most states dont let people who are arrested for crimes that could pull 11 years go on PR.
and cops dont set up the street level buyer, they set up teh dealer's dealer.

if ti happened teh way you said, next time i get pulled for having a kilo in the trunk i'll just tell them i'll sell it and everythign will be ok :S


either it was 3.8g of coke and a joint(which would be dumb to come from CT to get) or you are completely full of ----


Either this nog is CSI or he's a professional.............of what IDK.

Tom-Guy 06-28-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sakpase

Either this nog is CSI or he's a professional.............of what IDK.

Law Enforcement is a six week course to two year degree taught to people with IQs in the 85-100 range; "intelligent" officers are profiled as thinking too much and asking questions when they are just supposed to do a job without thinking. I daresay the average HMT OG could master cop-level ---- in two weeks of solid study - big whoopty ----.

Dx 101 06-28-2008 07:10 PM

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lol ;D again dont care if you dont believe me. i find it hard to believe. i just think its funny that you think someone would make this up. :8 :1

either way its costing me 10k for a GOOD lawer and my record in the state of ny is spotless hence the no bond and a promise to appear. i totally agree that we got lucky but the only thing that make scence to me is a training day situation.
dealer - either working with cops or got popped so he needed to give someone up to make it look like he was cooperating. so why not give up some nobodies from out of state. he gets his $(for legal fees or what ever) cops get there arrests(and take the weed and maybe some coke-so far we only have a charge of 500mg not the full thing) so if the cops are dirty that means to keep things ok and keep us from saying well hey i think those cops robbed us we get off as easy as possible(not that i would tell on myself but some dumb crack heads might because they felt they were taken advatage of)

on the other hand ive been told that ny courts take for ever so i could very likely be apart of the rockefeller(sp?) laws were if i am caught with any amount i see the inside of a cell. thats why i was hopping we have some nyc hmters that might know more about the situations.

Tom-Guy 06-28-2008 08:46 PM

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Then grow up and leave your smoking dope at home. Duh.


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