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ok so a while back i took my car to the muffler shop i usually go to, so that i could see how much it would cost to bend some ic piping and fab a downpipe using a flange i already had. the guy said $200, but i knew it would be a little more. so i took it in on friday, he said it'd be done on monday, so i went this morning and he wasnt done yet and he said he'd have to charge me like $850 for all the labor and everything. and i had already told him if it was more than a certain amount dont even do the downpipe for now cuz i just need it running and ill make a dp myself, and the only thing he had completely done so far was the downpipe, so i was pretty frustrated and just left. the guy actually doin the work is cool, but the owner has been an a$$ lately. so hopefully when i go in later today i wont have to pay too much for my car, cuz i know after a certain amount of time he can just sell it.

just another proof of Murphy's Law (everything that can go wrong will go wrong)

matt

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I would just take it as a lesson learned, dont contract out work without getting a written esitmate first. If you dont have some written proof of what they quoted you there's really not much to fall back on.

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Holy Mother of ----. $850??????????

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take whatever was done off and leave it there.

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could have bought a full race downpipe and intercooler piping for that much :-\

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Ouch :o

kick him in the nuts for me

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I'd get my car, say Screw You and leave with out paying

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that what i would have done right then and there

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thats total BS man
I had a guy make me some bad ass charge pipes using muffler pipe 2 1/2 inch fit perfect as hell for $50

---- that just go get ur car and peace out
dont let em yank yer chain yo

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---- that dude, it is against osha regualtions for any shop to work on a car without a work order, Go back there with a friend and have ur friend tell them hes a lawyer and have ur friend tell them he can get a auditor down there in a flash and ahve the place closed down like that, take the ---- off the car and take ur car.

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wow!! i would have just took my car and left

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So did u get ur car or what dude

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yea got it today, paid $350 for some nice pipes, dp, and BOV welded on. pretty good. but fuel rail is leakin so didnt drive it home. ill update you guys as i go. i gotta go try to fix it tommorrow at the guys shop.

matt

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that is entirely way to much.

one guy tried to charge me 120 to make two crush bends and weld them together and i told him to stick it in his rear and keep the pipes haha

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the dp probly cost the most, i got a flex pipe on there and everything. i was just happy i didnt have to pay $850

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no it was definetely gas, because the shop put a "T" on the fuel line and not on the FPR. so it was gas for sure. but i already fixed that as well as the leak at the fuel rail this morning.

but there is still a major idle problem. the car jumps up and down from 1k to 1500 as if i were pressing hard on the gas real quick and letting go real quick over and over. i checked for vac leaks and found none.

my pcv setup is as follows:

gutted stock pcv connected to a hose which runs to a saab turbo T. which has one hose that connects to a pcv valve then to intake mani. and the other end of the saab T is hooked up to the catch can, and the catch can to the pre-turbo intake.

my turbo setup:

stock D16y7 (with stock y7 intake mani)
custom log mani
T3 52/48
tuner toys 450's
chipped P06 runnin uberdata untuned
mishimoto fmic
hks ssq bov

im thinkin it might be the iacv, but i have the conversion harness to go from OBD2a->OBD1, so i dont see why i would still have to convert to the 2 wire iacv. if i do, i will go to the junkyard and pick up a plug, and swap on a z6 throttle body i have real quick. or i will just swap the sensors if they are interchangeable to see if it works.

if anyone has any ideas or is local to Lakewood cali, and wants ta help reply or hit me up 562 225 2432

matt

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you piece of ----, ur jus right there and you didn't show up at socal meet? i think its ur iacv also. mine did that til i changed it... thought it was a vac leak at first to but nope. pull off ur upper ic pipe off the throttle body and stick ur finger over the hole inside. if the idle drops then its ur iacv.

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sorry i didnt even hear about the meet cuz i was on vacation for a while. so i take off the pipe to the tb, turn the car on and plug the whole with my finger. is it good for the engin to turn on the car without the ic pipes to the tb, cuz then wouldnt i be running like extremely rich with the 450's and barely any air commin through the intake mani?

and what years and what models had the 2 wire iacv. i know the OBD1's did but all models? and i also know that the y8 manuals i think have the 2 wire? but what about OBD0's cuz my junkyard doesnt have many OBD1's or OBD2 y8's.

matt.

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Matt you noob, im coming to Lakewood to help you out.
Give me a call.

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cool mike, i get off work today at 6 so let me know whens cool for you

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Its still a stupid move by you, if you were quoted 200 from the beginning then 200 is what you should pay, not 350, I still would of took my car and left.

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i couldnt take it cuz it wouldnt start. so i didnt feel like pissin the guy off more and leavin my car there, and i had no money to tow it back to my house. so i was kinda stuck.

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i got some heavy duty towing rope. we can pull that bitch nukka

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well i wish i would have known you did

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ok so i realized that i never plugged in my IAT to anything. could this be the reason for crappy idle? plus my cluster's engine temp stays on cold even when the car has been "idleing" if you would call it that for a while.

i have seen some people just drill holes in their coupler and stick their IAT in there, would that work?

matt

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the IAT wasnt it. its def the iacv, cuz when the car is runnin and i unplug the iacv, nothin changes, all other sensors i unplug it gets worse. plus i have a major oil leak comin from the top and back of my oil pan, so i probably need a new oil pan gasket. i will swap in the z6 mani sometime soon and change the oil pan gasket and see if it works.

matt