junk american car rant
11-16-2007, 07:57 PM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by Dive_Miguel
Case in point, my '03 is300 has 80k and the original break pads, rotors, ect. The build quality is by far superior to any caddilac of the same year....hate to say it, but most american cars are ----. Still have a hard on for my 89 toronado, but I will never go back to a gm after owning 4 gm cars that were about as reliable as an SSAC mani.
Planned obsolescence, look it up.
One thing to think about, Toyota has, in recent times, rivaled that of Gm in sales, revenue, ect. There are reports that some of the newer toyota models have had some quality control problems as of late....
Read these books: (if any of you read books) "Internal Combustion" and "All Consuming Images".., They are a good read.
Planned obsolescence, look it up.
One thing to think about, Toyota has, in recent times, rivaled that of Gm in sales, revenue, ect. There are reports that some of the newer toyota models have had some quality control problems as of late....
Read these books: (if any of you read books) "Internal Combustion" and "All Consuming Images".., They are a good read.
anyway, all cars are gonna have problems. yes even hondas <omfg> have spun bearings at 110k, who cares. it happens to everyone, just bad luck. suck up the $500 (at most) and throw in a motor. telling you now, you'll regret the payments for that subie. but all your call in the end of course.
11-16-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by 1lowscort
wow...i cant believe that i just head two people say that kias are good. i worked at a kia/ford/toyota/scion dealership over the summer, at the time i left there, we had a kia rondo in there with 15k on it getting a new engine because it grenaded its self for no reason. there was another rondo in there with 30k on it with the same problem. also a kia spectra with about 35k on it getting an engine. this was all at one time. shortly before that there was a 60k mile rio getting a new engine. we had a customer come back 40 miles after purchasing a brand new spectra...the ac didn't work. there was a hole in the condenser, so we ordered another one from kia...the new one we ordered had the same exact problem. the techs there could do a rio transmission in an hour and a half because they have done it so many times. we usually had a rio transmission a week to do. yep...that is a quality car..
11-16-2007, 10:16 PM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by SinisterCRX
I could agree with the hyundai thing but not kia. Kias are on the same par with daewoo's imo. I never really liked Hyundai's but my great uncle Dan has one and its treated him very well with absolutely minimal problems; their f22 odyssey has given them much more problems.
BTW saturns are known for this type of ish. I'm surprised the tranny didn't go out first. My saturn had like, 130k miles and had a new tranny in it
a g6 feels like its going to explode when you floor it. chevy trucks have spongy old man seats. fwd gm's sound like a blender for a starter, and along with anything they make. ford have shitty castings in the heads. toyota slipped quality control for new models, look at the tundra thread as of late. i worked at a nissan dealership somewhat recently, ----. the only recalls were altima rear subframes, something about a bad casting from a certain vin number, and leaky pinion seals on the titans/armadas. ill get a picture of all the recall replacment crates tomorrow after work for proof. i now work at a subie dealership. i've yet to see anythnig that doesnt normally break. sam, guy in the bay next to me, just did an inspection on a justy, 233k on the clock and a few years ago, all he's done was rotors. he's been inspecting that car since day 1.. all the techs have been working there since before 1990, cept the new guy, and me.
in short, american cars have nothing to live up to, other than being lower quality. why improve low quality, when you can't afford to pay the union workers to do it right in the first place?
11-17-2007, 12:32 AM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by effingturbo
well so the deal is the wife has a 02 saturn(and i know that it is a disposible car...she has had it since new, before we where married, i never would have let that ---- fly if i had a say in it at the time....well we did all the things we should have oil changes,tune ups all that bullshit....god damn piece of ---- spun a ------- bearing at 110 thousand miles on it.....no warning no nothing just ------- let go.....i know that it was junk and was going to die...but i thought we had another 30 or 40 thousand before that would happen. sadly i was wrong...don't know what we are going to do yet..haven't decided if i'm just going to go to my pick and pull and get another engine for it...or just suck it up and get a new car....which money wise will suck...just switched jobs and money is tight now....----.....
cliff note....wife had shitty saturn before we got married spun a bearing at 110thousand miles.....have rope and will hang myself
cliff note....wife had shitty saturn before we got married spun a bearing at 110thousand miles.....have rope and will hang myself
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11-17-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by random-strike
you're an idiot.
there are millions of saturns with hundreds of thousands of miles on them. at some point in time it wasn't taken care of or its a fluke.
it was probably abused by your wife before you met her or the previous owner.
my grandpa has a 71 chevy truck with about 300k miles on it with the orginal motor. a couple of years ago i replaced the orginal alternator...
don't be a *** put a 5 dollar bearing in it. unless you are too stuipd to do that and your specialty is putting huge wings on slow cars
there are millions of saturns with hundreds of thousands of miles on them. at some point in time it wasn't taken care of or its a fluke.
it was probably abused by your wife before you met her or the previous owner.
my grandpa has a 71 chevy truck with about 300k miles on it with the orginal motor. a couple of years ago i replaced the orginal alternator...
don't be a *** put a 5 dollar bearing in it. unless you are too stuipd to do that and your specialty is putting huge wings on slow cars
Originally Posted by Dive_Miguel
gm cars are about as reliable as an SSAC mani.
11-17-2007, 01:48 AM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by random-strike
my grandpa has a 71 chevy truck with about 300k miles on it with the orginal motor. a couple of years ago i replaced the orginal alternator...
11-17-2007, 03:50 AM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by 88dx
Yeah because a new bearings going to fix it
but yea you're right its probably fucked.
Originally Posted by leed
There is no way that is possible. Thats like winning the lottery....so maybe.
11-17-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: junk american car rant
Originally Posted by effingturbo
so the verdict is i;m throwing a new engine in it....waiting for my income tax return in a few months and trading it in on something else.....
