JR S/C hot air debate..

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12-11-2008, 02:58 PM

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rsmith2786

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

The butt dyno is the most useless tool ever. It feels change in acceleration not acceleration itself - slower, peakier setups "feel" faster than a setup that makes and maintains power.

Exactly. People are much more sensitive to jerk (the derivitive of acceleration) than accleration itself.

12-11-2008, 09:44 PM

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theebluecrx

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by Colt45

shameless plug...

air/water is superior

---- LHT there a bunch of ripoffs.A guy i know has a 50 trim Gsr which LHT built and tuned and the ---- runs as slow as me and i have a untuned 16g 1g Auto Fwd.------- dummy spent at least $7500 on his ---- and i spent $3500 INCLUDING my car.What a joke.....

12-11-2008, 10:17 PM

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Tom-Guy

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

Having been through two cars that John at LHT built and tuned, either to do touch ups or whatnot, I'd say that car is slow as ---- because the guy brought John all the wrong parts (big turbo cams to bring out everything his T25 has) OR he hasn't maintained it and it needs something stupid like fresh sparkplugs after three years OR the guy doesn't know how to drive. Probably all three.

12-11-2008, 10:27 PM

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theebluecrx

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

John builds great cars if your rich.Its a name brand turbo which probably isnt matched to the car and i see no oil restrictor(might be the reason his car smokes now).Car was built last summer and honestly the reason the car is garbage is simple.Owner didnt do research and the rest of the car was left alone(clutch,tranny,suspension,ect).John oversaw the whole process and assembled the car himself from the bottom end up.I can post pictures,dyno charts, and shop invoices if you'd like.I'm not bashing LHT he has done good work i tried talking to my friend before he spent all that money on his goals and setups to get thier.Some people are just ignorant and dont listen to people who have experience in this ----.

12-11-2008, 10:34 PM

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Tom-Guy

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by theebluecrx

John builds great cars if your rich.

Name a shop that doesn't.

12-11-2008, 10:36 PM

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theebluecrx

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis

Name a shop that doesn't.

Yep.Pay me enough i'll put together some ----.

12-11-2008, 11:37 PM

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turbo4life

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by 92CXyD

No 4agze came w/ SC12 which are 1.2liters/rev and SC14 1.4liters/rev displacement.

ok they look the same.. to me at least but thanks for pointing that out

12-12-2008, 12:44 AM

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Guy-Fast

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Re: JR S/C hot air debate..

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Originally Posted by leed

The last time I worked on a JRSC LS, I remember the IAT's pegging out at 2 something partway through the street tune. It never came down form there.
IIRC, once you venture past 140-150ish IAT's, you're getting into diminishing returns on the boost increases.

Dave

And the facts are in