Jetta VR6?
 

I don't know much about Volkswagens. My wife has been wanting a Jetta for quite some time now. I found a 2002 with a VR6 and all options. Her birthday is next week and was going to pick it up for her as a present.
It has 120,000 miles and they want $7,000 for it. I drove it last week and it seemed like it ran good. Is there anything to look out for when buying these? Is this engine proven to be reliable? I've always heard that the engines run forever but everything else connected to them is junk. Any owners?

Re: Jetta VR6?
 

i personally like the 1.8t better the manual vr6 just seems to be geared weirdly, and the 1.8t seems to have allot more potential
i have seen 1.8t's with boltons,meth injection,and a boost controller running 26psi run low 12's on street tires (spinning 1,2,and some of 3rd going through the traps at about 108 or so) i think the one i saw at the track the guy said he paid 5k for it and put $1500 in it and it made like 280whp (stock is 180 at the crank so about 150 or so at the wheels)

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essentially cornfuzed is an idiot. i would never buy a mk 4 volkswagen, electrical issues out the ass. Sure its german engineered but most of the engineering is garbage and if it's good then it is fucked up by the beaners in mexico when they assemble it. Parts are also very expensive.

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as a dd for your wife, it will do just fine.

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I have a friend who owns one of the anniversary edition GTi's(I know it comes factory with Recaro seats, the wheels might be an upgrade as well). He autoX's that car EVERY opportunity he gets and has had for the last two years. I think it's been holding up pretty well. And it is his daily driver.

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i know a guy that had one, actually hes on here, umm handle is pistol i believe, pm him about it

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Plus I haven't towed many of them so you should be good.

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see if the timing chain has been done

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moron.

more complete and utter bullllshit from ------ lover cornfuzed

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Thanks for all of the replies everyone. This car will most likely stay stock. Although a turbo VR6 would be tits >:D
She will just be using it for transportation to and from work and where ever else she goes. Right now she is driving an Integra that has about 250,000 miles on it. The clear coat is starting to break down, it needs new axles and wheel bearings. Not much work but i think she will appreciate something newer.
I'll look into this. I bet it would be a bitch to do with how cramped the engine bay is.
Thanks man I'll give him a shout
I'm going to check some vw forums as well.

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your a ------- nimrod

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Silver by any chance?

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+1

To the OP, have you ever seen the work involved in changing one? ----.

I actually really like the VR6 as an engine, but damn man. Putting the timing chain at the back of the engine is pretty damn silly.

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No the Integra is the Hunter Green color. I'll be parting it out when i purchase this car so everyone look out for a thread in fs. :)

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all stock the vr6 isnt a bad engine. its sucks to work on though. i pretty much hate VW's due to needing tiny hands to do anything. that price sounds kinda high for the milage. are you getting it from some sort of car lot or a private seller. either way the price needs to come down but even more so if it is a private seller

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Bought it today. I managed to jew them down to $6000. They weren't sure if the timing chain was done or not. :-\ That wasn't the answer that i was looking for so I'll probably take it on in the next couple of months. The car is pretty clean for having the mileage that it does.
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Have fun with the lock cylinders... they have a mind of their own. Spark plugs too.. prepare to spend a whole day doing that ----.

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Lol. Get ready to pull the transmission out to get that one done..

;D

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why would he pull the trans ? to replace the timing chain??? ???
if your trying to say that the trans goes bad you got the wrong model the auto 1.8t has the trans problems not the vr6

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vr6's sound crazy with exhaust and intakes but I ------- hate working on them :S

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Ah, never mind. I did a quick scroll through this thread when I was looking into them.

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1264409

This picture threw me off. It looks like the transmission side of most crankshafts. I guess the VR6 just has a ridiculously large front snout. :1

http://www.agthompsonfamily.com/vw/TimingChain16.jpg

I thought it seemed pretty asinine to put the timing chain at the rear of the engine.

I was wrong. Carry on. ;D

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taken from that same thread:

The procedure assumes that the transmission, clutch, flywheel, upper intake manifold and other small parts (coilpack, TB, airbox ...) have been removed from the car and that other steps necessary to remove these have also been performed (front end of car raised, battery disconnected, etc). The removal of these parts on a MKIV VR6 has been expertly documented by FaelinGL here - http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2703042.

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The major stuff on VWs are good, but working on anything is ass backwards, and will lead you to sell a perfectly good new 2002 for 6k$ just so you dont have to work on it. Its like they engineered the car to never be taken apart again. My own personal hell would be a never ending line of passats, Jetta's and GTI's that need sparkplugs and clutches replaced.

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Well ---- me. Never will I doubt myself again.

:P

Yep, it is an ass backward bitch.

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------- germans

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I've owned Mazda GTX's, Merkur Xr4Ti's, 2 Integra's, a Dodge Shadow, a slew of Escort's and Proteges, random trucks, and a 2 civics, and a VW Bora (think Jetta), and if there is one thing I have learned is that while at first the Jetta was a confusing work of art/pain in the ass (and I was a diesel mechanic!) when in comes to engineering, after patroling VWVortex and buying the shop manual for the car, I love my Bora Vr6, it just requires abit more maintenance...

Pros of a jetta VR6: Nice looking, Vr6 when fed forced air will waste nearly anything near it, engines are still solid after 160,000 miles of beating to it like a bastard child, repairs are cheap if parts are bought online, faster than most cars, can get good gas mileage*, nice flat power band- 175hp, 175 lb-ft of torque from the 12V Mk4 Vr6, 15.3 sec 1/4 mile with intake and engine mounts, most people think they are slow...

Cons: Costly if you buy parts at the dealership, if you don't know what you are doing, or have no patience repairs are insane, VR6 N/A will max out at around 250hp, no matter what you do, something about the way that the head doesn't flow enough or something under N/A conditions, most people think that they are slow...

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Only hot Girls or Faggots drive VW's so we need pics of the wife ;)

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You were: but aren't so sure as to why the:Not to mention you cited:So I know you're a fluffer.

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I like the vr6 but the 18t is easier to get a bit more power out of... Just chip it and you're at 225bhp.

Nice buy!

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Cornfuzed....fetch a rope!

I own a 1.8t, there is no ------- way in hell that guy pulled 280 out of a k03 turbo...or even a k03s. ---- even a K04 maxs out at 250. And 12's? was he sitting on a bucket with no roof? Also stock awp's(2002-2005) have put 160whp.

D-man....wrong again. Yes the 1.8t is easier and cheaper to get power out of but 225 from a chip isnt happening. Maybe 200 with revo and boost set to 9(25+psi)

Alot of people hate on volkswagen and dont really get to know the cars. I've been into honda's and prefer vw mostly because of the people. No body steals our ---- and for the most part everyone is quite helpful. I cant even think of how many times i've been saved from a tight jam by someone i never met, but the helped me out just cause we both drove dubs.

Easiest way to do the timing chains is to pull the motor and do it while its on the cherry picker.

Also lock cylinders were a known problem with mk3(94-99.5) have yet to hear of a problem with mk4s

Also what is hard about the sparkplugs? are you ------- retarded? Jesus the first car i ever really got my hands dirty with was a mk3 gti 2.0 aba. Even then sparkplugs was nothing more then a 15min job.

To the owner.....germanautoparts.com is your best friend. replace your bible with a bently manual asap

These cars are no harder to work on than anyother car. Some things are stupid easy and others are a bit more of a problem.

p.s i dont give a rats dick about being a "newb" i've trolled around this forum picking up info sence hotsex was blow aids all over the place.

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the 1.8t are ------- gay, honda and toyota 1.8's outperform it N/A.
get a rope igotmycornholerapedimafaggotandiactuallyliketogetr apedcuzimafag

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Being a diesel tech in the army and my civilian job didn't require me knowing fluid/air dynamics, but i can asure you that i was a diesel mechanic, when it comes to maxing out n/a hp on the 12-valve vr6, i can tell you it has something to do with the angle of the valves in relation to the intake runners creating to much turbulence at higher flow rates than stock, i'll try to post the link regarding it...

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If I ever see a Honda on the side of the road with someone trying to get it running, I'll do the same. After 6 years of driving I have not seen one.

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VR6= Crap

Buy a 20V 1.8T Golf, easy to work on and easy to find parts. The Jetta engine is mounted different so some parts aren't interchangeable.


GOLF 1.8T

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is the VR6 12v or 24v?

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both, they come in 2.8l 12-valve, a 2.8l 24-valve, and the r32 golf runs a 3.2l vr6 engine...

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i was asking him which one it was.

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I was going by the apr/upsolute websites. 225 brake horse power too.... not wheel horse. Going from 180bhp to 225 is believable by going from 11psi to 25.

Also yes the kkk turbos suck but just upgrade them and you have a rocket.

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spikes at about 22psi, but sits just below 20.

no brand claims 225bhp on their chips. 215 on a 93 octane tune. apr's k04 kit boasts 245hp with 93 octane.