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J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 07:04 PM

iran almost started Bush's war II
 
http://www.gulf-news.com/region/Iran/10180127.html

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...rld&id=5875265

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 07:05 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Washington: Five Iranian Revolutionary Guard boats harassed and provoked three US Navy ships in the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil shipping route off the Iranian coast, over the weekend.

The captain of one US vessel was in the process of giving the order to shoot when the Iranian ships began turning away, CNN said.

A radio transmission from one of the Iranian ships said, "I am coming at you. You will explode in a couple of minutes," CNN reported, citing a US official.

After the threatening radio communication, US sailors manned their ships' guns and were very close to opening fire,it said.

Iran's Revolutionary Guards said that its high-speed boats never threatened the U.S. vessels during the encounter, insisting it only asked them to identify themselves, then let them continue into the Gulf. A Guards commander defended his force's right to identify ships in the sensitive waterway.

Cosgriff, the commander of U.S. 5th Fleet, which patrols the Gulf and is based in nearby Bahrain, said the American vessels had been identified by Iranian authorities earlier in the day.

"The group had been successfully queried by an Iranian ship, possibly a Revolutionary Guards ship, and two or three Iranian (shore) stations and an Omani station," Cosgriff told The Associated Press in a telephone interview Tuesday.

The U.S. commander also said that the American ships were clearly marked and the incident took place during the day when they could be seen. "I can't help but conclude that it was provocative," Cosgriff said.
real? fake? made up by bush? cia operatives?

who is lying? could it be evil iran? or the good us?

TorganFM 01-08-2008 07:17 PM

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Is this another reason for us to gtfo?

HMTguy 01-08-2008 07:22 PM

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They just showed video of it on nbc news

hondarex2323 01-08-2008 07:31 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
its mostly the media blowing ---- out of apportion, if the U.S navy felt threaten they would have blown dem camel jockeys out of the water.....tug boat<battle ship

the 13th round 01-08-2008 07:47 PM

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i want to hear the radio communications. that is some ignorant ---- to say to a big ass warship.

TorganFM 01-08-2008 07:49 PM

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They were poking the bear, trying to start a war.

mike94se 01-08-2008 07:53 PM

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The Jews probably solved it.

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 07:55 PM

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yeap there was a video tape and recording... its a good thing too because everyone would be saying it didn't happen and the media/bush/aliens made it up 8)

signorelli21 01-08-2008 08:17 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...4105110&page=1

looks like 5 ski boats, like they are really going to hurt two ------- destroyers, give me a break.

Dive_Miguel 01-08-2008 08:25 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
Anybody want to sign up to fight the latest war? Be my guest--and "git-r-dun"

johnmichael 01-08-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by signorelli21
http://abcnews.go.com/International/...4105110&page=1

looks like 5 ski boats, like they are really going to hurt two ------- destroyers, give me a break.

ever heard of the u.s.s. cole? shut the ---- up and get to your commie party meeting

:1 :1 :1

the 13th round 01-08-2008 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmichael
ever heard of the u.s.s. cole? shut the ---- up and get to your commie party meeting

:1 :1 :1

+1

Guy-Fast 01-08-2008 08:40 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
i like zc's

johnmichael 01-08-2008 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chris
i like zc's

zimbabwean cocks?

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmichael
ever heard of the u.s.s. cole? shut the ---- up and get to your commie party meeting

yeap, they were dropping boxes in the water. if some dumbass liberals would actually read instead of commenting out of their ass... we have less bs posts like this one


bluerex 01-08-2008 08:52 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...74697167011147

for cliff notes, fast forward 32mins

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bluerex
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...74697167011147

for cliff notes, fast forward 32mins

everyone knows this... who is blocking it? environazi liberals... they wanted to build there many times, they even tried it recently. dems blocked it...

signorelli21 01-08-2008 09:04 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
yes ive heard of the uss cole, but that ship was in port and was attacked by a ship loaded with explosives that blew a 40 foot hole in the side of the ship, it didn't sink.

destroyers have undergone extensive improvements since then and the rules of engagement are obviously reduced, i don't see starting war with a country because some boats dropped some boxes in the water.

bluerex 01-08-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
everyone knows this... who is blocking it? environazi liberals...

Lol if you just think environazi liberals are keeping us out of that goldmine, you're crazy

Directional drilling solves any environmental woes.

Seriously watch it from 32 mins till bout 43 and tell me that doesn't give a pretty damn good explanation on our involvement in the middle east

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 09:07 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Originally Posted by signorelli21
yes ive heard of the uss cole, but that ship was in port and was attacked by a ship loaded with explosives that blew a 40 foot hole in the side of the ship, it didn't sink.

destroyers have undergone extensive improvements since then and the rules of engagement are obviously reduced, i don't see starting war with a country because some boats dropped some boxes in the water.

just admit you hate america.

you're so ------- clueless its really sad, lets risk the life of thousands of sailors by running over ---- that could be mines ::) in international waters...


Originally Posted by bluerex
Lol if you just think environazi liberals are keeping us out of that goldmine, you're crazy

Directional drilling solves any environmental woes.

Seriously watch it from 32 mins till bout 43 and tell me that doesn't give a pretty damn good explanation on our involvement in the middle east

the repubs tried to pass a bill to drill in anwar for oil, dems blocked it. it was going to happen, dems blocked it. couldn't be more simple

bluerex 01-08-2008 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike

the repubs tried to pass a bill to drill in anwar for oil, BP blocked it. it was going to happen, dems blocked it. couldn't be more simple

Fixed

----, look at HR 1955 and tell me how honest and agenda free our congress is

signorelli21 01-08-2008 09:15 PM

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lol, i don't think they should be there in the first place, YOU would rather risk the lives of thousands of soldiers and sailors just to fight some stupid goddamn war.

and no i don't hate america, the us navy is smart enough to defend themselves, they were about to shoot the iran boats but they didn't because the iranians took off, if the us navy would have destroyed all 5 boats i wouldn't care because they would probably be acting in their best interests, but since nothing happened i don't understand the big deal, no bleeding heart liberal ----, i just don't see the big deal because the ---- happens in iraq everyday and rarely gets mentioned.

mike94se 01-08-2008 09:23 PM

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---- them. They drew first blood; its over when we say so. We're that good. 8)

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 09:29 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Originally Posted by signorelli21
lol, i don't think they should be there in the first place, YOU would rather risk the lives of thousands of soldiers and sailors just to fight some stupid goddamn war.

and no i don't hate america, the us navy is smart enough to defend themselves, they were about to shoot the iran boats but they didn't because the iranians took off, if the us navy would have destroyed all 5 boats i wouldn't care because they would probably be acting in their best interests, but since nothing happened i don't understand the big deal, no bleeding heart liberal ----, i just don't see the big deal because the ---- happens in iraq everyday and rarely gets mentioned.

its international waters stupid.

no one owns it

Guy-Fast 01-08-2008 09:48 PM

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log

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 09:52 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
http://www.milkandcookies.com/images...dstimpylog.jpg

TorganFM 01-08-2008 10:03 PM

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Liberalism has nothing to do with his ignorance, for the record. Any flagrant threat like that needs to be taken seriously. No conspiracy bullshit, just facts. In all seriousness the speedboaters probably should have been blasted. They should feel very fortunate.

signorelli21 01-08-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
its international waters stupid.

no one owns it

I never said anyone did, stupid.

Why the ---- did you post this anyway?

MikeJ-2009 01-08-2008 11:03 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 
I know Americans aren't that smart, but this wouldn't have been enough for Bush to start his next war. As the story goes, there has to be a threat to the United States, which this wouldn't have been.

You know how we get away from things like this happening? WE DON'T HAVE OUR FUCKEN NAVY FLOATING AROUND IRAN FOR NO REASON.

Look at the map and tell me which other country would be caught dead this close to our shores. Yet, we do it like we own the fucken place. We're trying to control every piece of the world through influence? No, everyone else is just a lunatic. ::)

http://www.all-science-fair-projects..._of_Hormuz.jpg

J-SMITH69 01-08-2008 11:53 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Originally Posted by Stealthmode
I know Americans aren't that smart, but this wouldn't have been enough for Bush to start his next war. As the story goes, there has to be a threat to the United States, which this wouldn't have been.

You know how we get away from things like this happening? WE DON'T HAVE OUR FUCKEN NAVY FLOATING AROUND IRAN FOR NO REASON.

Look at the map and tell me which other country would be caught dead this close to our shores. Yet, we do it like we own the fucken place. We're trying to control every piece of the world through influence? No, everyone else is just a lunatic. ::)

http://www.all-science-fair-projects..._of_Hormuz.jpg

steve, you know during the cold war there were many soviet subs off the coast at all times... both coasts, my grandma has pictures of a sub off the coast in oregon... international waters is international waters... there are still russian subs off our coast from time to time.

mike94se 01-09-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by random-strike
steve, you know during the cold war there were many soviet subs off the coast at all times... both coasts, my grandma has pictures of a sub off the coast in oregon... international waters is international waters... there are still russian subs off our coast from time to time.

We did the same and we weren't detected for a month. Dumbass reds.

catch.can 01-09-2008 07:48 PM

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At the time they didn't know they were boxes, what they knew was they said over the radio we are going to blow you up. Then they saw them dropping things in the water. They probably went out and retrieved it and found out they were just boxes. But they didn't know at the time, they got threatened then saw things getting dropped into the water, one would naturally assume they are mines.

As some of you know i juts came back from a split deployment from Qatar and iraq. In Qatar alls we did was intel collection and straits transit escorts for the ships.

THIS HAPPENS all the time. The media just blew it out of proportion, they came closer then possible but that is the regular SOP for the IRGCN. They cruise around in about 5-7 TIR's or Peykap's (small speed boats with RPGs and Surface the air missiles,some with mines) When ships come through they sworm the ships to see how close they can get, When they feel threatened finally they turn. Its normal, i saw it every other day out there flying overhead the ships coming through. These guy's DID get closer than normal though. I think the US did everything rite. They warned them verbally, blew there horn and told them they are entering a danger zone.
They were in international water, you MUST go through the straights to get into the arabian gulf, where most of our oil comes from, and they were out there protecting,not just OURS and the worlds oil supply that comes out of the arabian gulf. As well in support of OIF.

You all need to get a little bit more educated before you start bashing on the U.S. Iran does alot of provocative ---- towards the US and ALOT Slides as to NOT go to war. There was alot that happened when i was out there, and alot of times, coalition would move aside so they wouldn't "hurt any feelings".
We are trying to make a better name for ourselves over there as a country, the other day a US warship pulled out some Iranian fisherman that were thrown overboart out of there DHOW. They are allways doing this to help out, but of course the good things don't get to the media. Only the bad, then alot of people, including people on here make Ignorant posts like what you see when you read this thread.

Slo_crx1 01-09-2008 09:13 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Originally Posted by hatchboy
At the time they didn't know they were boxes, what they knew was they said over the radio we are going to blow you up. Then they saw them dropping things in the water. They probably went out and retrieved it and found out they were just boxes. But they didn't know at the time, they got threatened then saw things getting dropped into the water, one would naturally assume they are mines.

As some of you know i juts came back from a split deployment from Qatar and iraq. In Qatar alls we did was intel collection and straits transit escorts for the ships.

THIS HAPPENS all the time. The media just blew it out of proportion, they came closer then possible but that is the regular SOP for the IRGCN. They cruise around in about 5-7 TIR's or Peykap's (small speed boats with RPGs and Surface the air missiles,some with mines) When ships come through they sworm the ships to see how close they can get, When they feel threatened finally they turn. Its normal, i saw it every other day out there flying overhead the ships coming through. These guy's DID get closer than normal though. I think the US did everything rite. They warned them verbally, blew there horn and told them they are entering a danger zone.
They were in international water, you MUST go through the straights to get into the arabian gulf, where most of our oil comes from, and they were out there protecting,not just OURS and the worlds oil supply that comes out of the arabian gulf. As well in support of OIF.

You all need to get a little bit more educated before you start bashing on the U.S. Iran does alot of provocative ---- towards the US and ALOT Slides as to NOT go to war. There was alot that happened when i was out there, and alot of times, coalition would move aside so they wouldn't "hurt any feelings".
We are trying to make a better name for ourselves over there as a country, the other day a US warship pulled out some Iranian fisherman that were thrown overboart out of there DHOW. They are allways doing this to help out, but of course the good things don't get to the media. Only the bad, then alot of people, including people on here make Ignorant posts like what you see when you read this thread.

I agree 100%. The media and general population really don't have much of a clue as to what really goes on over there on a day to day basis.
BTW, how is Qatar? I might do a 6 month detail over there in a bit with FRS for Warlock.

MikeJ-2009 01-09-2008 09:31 PM

Re: iran almost started Bush's war II
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
steve, you know during the cold war there were many soviet subs off the coast at all times... both coasts, my grandma has pictures of a sub off the coast in oregon... international waters is international waters... there are still russian subs off our coast from time to time.

And you would or wouldn't see that as a threat? I don't need you justifying ---- because Russians did it 30 years ago.

catch.can 01-09-2008 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by slo_crx1
I agree 100%. The media and general population really don't have much of a clue as to what really goes on over there on a day to day basis.
BTW, how is Qatar? I might do a 6 month detail over there in a bit with FRS for Warlock.

qatar isn't bad. Its disney land compared to iraq. you can drink 3 beers/alcohol a day. has a exchange, gym,movie theater etc etc.
Warlock is pretty cool, its all ESM jamming correct? Big atenna's on the back of the humvee's? They were taking alot of AW non acoustic people and sending them to iraq to do ESm type things in the humvee.

J-SMITH69 01-09-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealthmode
And you would or wouldn't see that as a threat? I don't need you justifying ---- because Russians did it 30 years ago.

they still do it, its international waters ::)

the cold war ended in 1991... 2008-1991 = 17 years


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