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Platty9 04-20-2007 03:45 PM

I'm running E 85
 
Just thought i'd share my experience with e 85. I've been reading a lot of conflicting info about running ethanol in a gasoline engine. Mainly problems with fuel lines and fuel pumps come to the top of the list when deciding to run the fuel or not. But i have to believe that all fuel components should be compatible with ethanol because its been in our gasoline for many years now and the engineers when making new cars had to take this into account. Theres no way they would design a fuel system that was only slightly resistant to ethanol. So i decided to try it out. I live in WI so e 85 is everywhere at one point as cheap as 1.99 a gallon which offsets the reduced gas mileage u get when running ethanol. My set up is D16y8 stock running 10 psi on a vafc 390cc injectors with water/alcohol injection . So far the motor is running real strong, i can really notice more torque and my motor actually seems to be much happier with the new fuel. the only negative so far is that its a bit stumbly at first when the car is cold. I plan on changing my fuel filter soon as the ethanol releases deposits in the fuel tank and lines. I know my post may seem a bit everywhere but what can i say its 4 20 :6

HMTguy 04-20-2007 03:47 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
E85 has more than 8 times the amount of ethanol than what gas stations put in regular gasoline. Over time it can and will deteriorate your fuel lines and pump.

Your tune will be off, You have to run a richer AFR with E85 to be equivalent to gasoline.

Platty9 04-20-2007 04:00 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
I took into account the fact that i need to tune for it, i added fuel with the vafc. You seriously believe that it will ---- with my fuel lines and pump huh? I can't really decide for myself if it will or not. People in brazil have been running on ethanol for many rears now. Theres just so much conflicting info out there i had to try for myself

bigdaddyvtec 04-20-2007 04:05 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 

Originally Posted by platty9
I took into account the fact that i need to tune for it, i added fuel with the vafc. You seriously believe that it will ---- with my fuel lines and pump huh? I can't really decide for myself if it will or not. People in brazil have been running on ethanol for many rears now. Theres just so much conflicting info out there i had to try for myself

Gasoline AT MOST contains 10% ethanol... E85 is 85 % ethanol as i understand it. Yes, it can ---- up soft fuel system parts, and corrode hard parts (lines etc)

Platty9 04-20-2007 04:16 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
Any credable link to the fact that e 85 will ---- my fuel system up???

jinxy 04-20-2007 04:20 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 

Originally Posted by platty9
Any credable link to the fact that e 85 will ---- my fuel system up???

Oxidation reduction reaction. You're providing the environment for it to take place

greenbomber 04-20-2007 04:28 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
Im pretty sure alcohols dont like aluminnum that much

BenDover 04-20-2007 04:29 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=73061

HMTguy 04-20-2007 04:29 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
Do a google search for e85 corrosion, e85 conversion, e85 anything.

greenbomber 04-20-2007 04:31 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
I was just there looking at ideas for a 240

BenDover 04-20-2007 04:33 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
They sell the E85 kit on ebay :6

Platty9 04-20-2007 04:41 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
nice site
thats what i mean about conflicting info, everyone jumps on the it will ---- ur car bandwagon without actually researching into it. So far i'm impressed with E 85

HMTguy 04-20-2007 04:58 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
I have researched it though, why don't you?


bigdaddyvtec 04-20-2007 05:00 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 

Originally Posted by platty9
nice site thats what i mean about conflicting info, everyone jumps on the it will ---- ur car bandwagon without actually researching into it. So far i'm impressed with E 85

Dont get me wrong... If it were readily available where i live, id run it... after adressing the issues of corrosian and diegeneration.

Platty9 04-20-2007 05:17 PM

Re: I'm running E 85
 

Originally Posted by jagojon3
I have researched it though, why don't you?


I have been doing research dude. Don't get me wrong i value ur input, you obviously know your ----. But show me an article with a vehicle that is trashed from running e 85 cause i cant find one. I think theres still a lot of misinformation out there probabaly mainly due to oil companies not wanting ethanol to catch on. and i'm not saying theres a big conspericy but oil companies stand to lose a lot of money if ethanol becomes popular. jagojon3 don't u live in madison too??? i thought i remember talking to u before

Jorsher 04-21-2007 01:11 AM

Re: I'm running E 85
 

Originally Posted by platty9
I have been doing research dude. Don't get me wrong i value ur input, you obviously know your ----. But show me an article with a vehicle that is trashed from running e 85 cause i cant find one. I think theres still a lot of misinformation out there probabaly mainly due to oil companies not wanting ethanol to catch on. and i'm not saying theres a big conspericy but oil companies stand to lose a lot of money if ethanol becomes popular. jagojon3 don't u live in madison too??? i thought i remember talking to u before

It's not really that deep. Ethanol just isn't good for the lines.

noboostedEGo 04-21-2007 01:34 AM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
(Positive) facts about E85:

1. It is not corrosive to the fuel system or the engine. This is a myth and ethanol is often confused with methanol, which actually have corrosive properties. Some models before 1988 on the other hand may have some parts that is not ethanol resistant. If we are talking Volvo´s, then this mainly applies to the non-electronically injection systems such as K-jet etc. Most cars with electronical fuel injection (EFI) should be resistant to ethanol.



This looks like research too though. Is this bullshit? I'm asking in a non-cocky way.

Bone1 04-21-2007 02:46 AM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
let me put a boot in your ass.......

E85 can be a 70/30 mix.......might wanna start going OH ----!

USS 04-21-2007 07:24 AM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
I've heard there are 'Summer' and 'Winter' blends.

To defend E85, I have yet to see somebody's fuel system completely disintegrate on any forum (which is obviously a perfect representation of real life events !!!).

ifly87 04-21-2007 10:26 AM

Re: I'm running E 85
 
I'm going to rock it on my new setup, I'm hoping to have it completed by june 1st, so keep you're eyes open i'll def. be posting up. The only thing I'm afraid of is the consistency of the e85. like mista said it could be 70/30, any fluctuations could throw off the tune right? I'll tune this bad boy myself so I guess I'll find out. Other than that it has an octane rating of 105, and needs approx. 30% more to be injected, the increased volume should help with cooling and the relitively high octane will help prevent detonation.


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