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#13
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Originally Posted by mrnubs1
Turbos feed off of themselves.
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
#14
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Originally Posted by mrnubs1
Turbos feed off of themselves.
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
#15
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Originally Posted by mrnubs1
Turbos feed off of themselves.
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
+ boost = + exhaust volume
+ exhaust volume = + boost
+ boost = + exhaust volume
etc......
....until wastegate opens to reduce the actual volume of exhaust flow reaching the turbine.
Increased turbine speed is dependant more on exhaust volume than it is on engine speed.
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
#16
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Originally Posted by mrnubs1
Driving a turbo engined car with disconnected charge piping would be the same as revving a turbo engine car (with charge piping connected) in neutral. No boost ..... or very little......
This is completely wrong. An engine during WOT under load does not act the same as a an engine that is revved in neutral.
#17
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Well if you're not getting any positive pressure at the manifold, and because of that, you're not getting any increase in exhaust volume (above and beyond NA engine against load exhaust volume) - how is the turbo going to reach dangerous speeds? It's not able to feed itself, right?
I was just saying that without the extra exhaust volume created by positive manifold pressure, the turbo can't reach dangerous/harmful speeds.
An engine under load may not act like an engine revved in neutral, but the difference beween how a turbo engine acts in neutral vs. how it acts against a load is MUCH different in comparison to how an NA engine acts revved in neutral vs. how it acts against a load.
In an NA engine, the load on the engine changes - atmosphere remains constant.
In a turbo engine, teh load on the engine changes - atmospheric pressure continually increases.
.
I was just saying that without the extra exhaust volume created by positive manifold pressure, the turbo can't reach dangerous/harmful speeds.
An engine under load may not act like an engine revved in neutral, but the difference beween how a turbo engine acts in neutral vs. how it acts against a load is MUCH different in comparison to how an NA engine acts revved in neutral vs. how it acts against a load.
In an NA engine, the load on the engine changes - atmosphere remains constant.
In a turbo engine, teh load on the engine changes - atmospheric pressure continually increases.
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#18
Re: Im gonna get in ----
no. i turbo needs a wasregate to reguate how fast it spins by regulating how much exhaust gas actually gets INTO the turbine. without a wastegate (which he doesnt have because wastegates work off vac/boost), the turbo is going to be spinning as fast as the exhaust gasses will allow it to spin, causing it to overspin and explode.
easy enough for you mrnoobs?
easy enough for you mrnoobs?
#19
Re: Im gonna get in ----
Originally Posted by I Have An STD
no. i turbo needs a wasregate to reguate how fast it spins by regulating how much exhaust gas actually gets INTO the turbine. without a wastegate (which he doesnt have because wastegates work off vac/boost), the turbo is going to be spinning as fast as the exhaust gasses will allow it to spin, causing it to overspin and explode.
easy enough for you mrnoobs?
easy enough for you mrnoobs?
I thought a wastegate was used to regulate boost pressure by diverting exhaust away from the turbine, independant of how fast the turbine spins.
According to you, what he did would have caused his turbo to overspin and explode. So, why didn't his turbo explode?
#20
Re: Im gonna get in ----
The main point in this thread so far that I have gathered is....
DO NOT DRIVE YOUR CAR WITHOUT CHARGE PIPES. EVEN IF YOU DON'T DO ANY DAMAGE IT IS STILL COMPLETELY POINTLESS SO JUST DON'T ------- DO IT!
No need to argue over a poinless point (if that makes sense?!?)
DO NOT DRIVE YOUR CAR WITHOUT CHARGE PIPES. EVEN IF YOU DON'T DO ANY DAMAGE IT IS STILL COMPLETELY POINTLESS SO JUST DON'T ------- DO IT!
No need to argue over a poinless point (if that makes sense?!?)