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Old 07-18-2006, 12:03 AM
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Im not gonna lie, I can smell the "terrorists are not like military -- we need to bomb everything" justification like everyone else.. We (the U.S) should know it, we used it.

However I have to say that the article aside from being Israel biased is a fair shake at explaning the sequence of events that has Israel fighting. Honestly, how much is it gonna take? Hezbollah kidnaps people, Israel gives em what they want blah blah balh...

What would you do in that situation buk? Have Israel pull up its (relatively short) roots, leave the land, and say "oops. Sorry, we just kinda liked the view, you Palestinians can have it back now Hezbollah convinced us.". Im thinking no, Israel is fed up, and the article in this thread has a reasonable account of the detail that has lead up to it. Noone should be calling for an Israeli cease fire, they should be trying to figure out how to stop Hezbollah from running Lebanon. If they dont. Israel is gonna bomb Lebanon into smithereens, and with just cause, and provocation to boot.

In closing the way I see it is that the moral highroad is gone, and Israel is not gonna send out a pack of search dogs to find it. The crux of the issue is that Israel is not a temporary entity, and nothing short of Iran and Pakistan or India Nuking it off the map is gonna change it. Once you accept that Israel is not going anywhere, then you have to see Israel's point. I think we are gonna see a 1 sided US > Iraq style Israel > Lebanon kinda display of power. The only thing remaining to be answered I think is what the hell Israel is gonna do once they have done what they are trying to do. Hezbollah flee to Syria, Israel lets the Lebanese have Lebanon back, the Hezbollah move back in, and so on and so forth. This is just the beginning methinks..

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Guys its a ------- 10 minute read. If you cant read a couple of pages without losing concentration, you are the ------- idiot Americans that no one likes. Move to ------- Canada.
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Guys its a ------- 10 minute read. If you cant read a couple of pages without losing concentration, you are the ------- idiot Americans that no one likes. Move to ------- Canada.
Let me put up a 10 page paper about socionics and how the judging perceiving function is rated diffrently and leans twards judging when compaired to myers briggs. But how its tottal unrelated because socionics doesn't nessicairly measure the same functions. How about i put up a huge paper of a thesis about how relitivism does not exist. No one cares to read what your interested about. This is a car website, not a political website. If you want to start an argument with moham, just PM him.
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Nah, I read a few paragraphs and stopped. It's almost 2 A.M., I'm tired. I'll read it tomorrow, then read buk's "you're retarded, this is why i'm right" rebuttal
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So palestinians are not able to assimilate to no capacitity whatsoever? Countless people did here. But I guess the middle east isn't exactly the most accepting place in the world.....lol But I've heard that from some lebanese that Palestinians are looked down upon and aren't exactly held in high esteem by others in the region, he even went as far to say that "they are our ------s," referring to Palestinians.
lol i said that LOTS of times before.. arabs DONT give a ---- about palestinians.. even with the best expierience.. my uncle in saudi arabia.. a 40 year expierience bmw and mercedez benz mechanic got fired in 2 seconds when a saudi replacement for him was found.. and the new guy is getting paid alot more than he is..

alternatively.. most of the palestinians end up being doctors.. the qatari royal family doctor is palestinian.. and is related to me.. palestinians are smart.. but there is no easy way out of the situation they are in right now..

"just give up.. you lost a war.. you lost your land" is what myshtern here says.. haha

the holocast is the jews justification for ------- the palestinians over

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Im not gonna lie, I can smell the "terrorists are not like military -- we need to bomb everything" justification like everyone else.. We (the U.S) should know it, we used it.

However I have to say that the article aside from being Israel biased is a fair shake at explaning the sequence of events that has Israel fighting. Honestly, how much is it gonna take? Hezbollah kidnaps people, Israel gives em what they want blah blah balh...

What would you do in that situation buk? Have Israel pull up its (relatively short) roots, leave the land, and say "oops. Sorry, we just kinda liked the view, you Palestinians can have it back now Hezbollah convinced us.". Im thinking no, Israel is fed up, and the article in this thread has a reasonable account of the detail that has lead up to it. Noone should be calling for an Israeli cease fire, they should be trying to figure out how to stop Hezbollah from running Lebanon. If they dont. Israel is gonna bomb Lebanon into smithereens, and with just cause, and provocation to boot.

In closing the way I see it is that the moral highroad is gone, and Israel is not gonna send out a pack of search dogs to find it. The crux of the issue is that Israel is not a temporary entity, and nothing short of Iran and Pakistan or India Nuking it off the map is gonna change it. Once you accept that Israel is not going anywhere, then you have to see Israel's point. I think we are gonna see a 1 sided US > Iraq style Israel > Lebanon kinda display of power. The only thing remaining to be answered I think is what the hell Israel is gonna do once they have done what they are trying to do. Hezbollah flee to Syria, Israel lets the Lebanese have Lebanon back, the Hezbollah move back in, and so on and so forth. This is just the beginning methinks..

who wants israel gone? israel isnt gonna leave.. just go back to the ------- borders of 67.. and release POLITICAL PRISONERS.. i.e. people that werent caught with a ------- gun ... and watch the peace process get into motion.. but they dont want peace ariel sharon said borders of 67.. over 7 years? GTFO.. 7 years.. just pack up your ----.. and go back.. when they said they were going bak to 67 didnt u see how long the ceasefire lasted? that is untill some palestianian kids.. a 15 year old and an 18 year old got too close to the palestinian border and got theyre bodies riddled up with bullets you cant do that ---- and claim you want peace.. then palestine retaliated and israel hit back balblalbllalblalblalblala...


no one is going to nuke israel.. and israel wouldnt be retarded enough to nuke anyone.. the entire area is too small.. nuclear fall out would devastate the entire region


resonable account of the details that lead up to it? show me.. please do..

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Let me put up a 10 page paper about socionics and how the judging perceiving function is rated diffrently and leans twards judging when compaired to myers briggs. But how its tottal unrelated because socionics doesn't nessicairly measure the same functions. How about i put up a huge paper of a thesis about how relitivism does not exist. No one cares to read what your interested about. This is a car website, not a political website. If you want to start an argument with moham, just PM him.
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Nah, I read a few paragraphs and stopped. It's almost 2 A.M., I'm tired. I'll read it tomorrow, then read buk's "you're retarded, this is why i'm right" rebuttal

where did i say.. or even imply that? i just hate saying the same thing over and over and over again every ------- thread..


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lol, who wants israel gone?

Iran, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Hezbollah, Hamas, UAE, Al Qaeda, etc...

thats right israel, get attacked by a couple arab countries, kick their ***, but give them their land back they lost attacking you please!
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now.. the ONLY reason israel withdrew from lebanon is because it got pwned..
Buk is funny in the sense that he does make up his own facts. Josh (the guy who wrote the article I posted) showed me a Syrian village that had a very unqiue museum while we were in Israel. The museum glorified Syria's victory of the 1967 war... Wait a minute, Syria lost the 1967 war Unforuntately, the citizens of Syria have been told that Syria allowed for Israel to have the Golan Heights after Israel attacked Syria Don't tell Buk though, it might devastate him.

I guess thats how Arab war methodology works, when you lose land you win.

alternatively.. most of the palestinians end up being doctors
Yeah, all palestinians are successful doctors or scientists. They're incredible businessmen too.
That explains why 60% of the population is in poverty.
Oh wait, nevermind, it's George Bush's fault they live in poverty.
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