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buk9tp 05-03-2008 11:52 PM

as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
------- classy


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080503/...ke_gun_control




Bills seek punishment for use, display of fake weapons By LUCAS L. JOHNSON II, Associated Press Writer
Sat May 3, 2:01 PM ET



Concerns that realistic-looking toy weapons are confusing police and threatening safety have led 15 states to try going beyond gun control and cracking down on fake firearms.

Officer Micheal Hoover knows a fair amount about guns as a sniper instructor for a Tennessee SWAT team. He recalls the night two years ago when a car pulled up beside him on a highway and the passenger waved what looked like an Uzi.

"It scared me," he said. "If anyone is in their right mind, I don't see how it wouldn't."

Hoover was off duty and called for police help. A 20-year-old man was charged with aggravated assault after police found a black plastic Uzi submachine gun under the car's passenger seat, but he was acquitted because jurors felt the officer should have been able to tell it was only a toy.

Lawmakers across the country are coming to a different conclusion, deciding that it is so hard to differentiate the toys from the fakes that public safety demands they take action.

Among those 15 states, seven bills limiting fake guns are pending this year and 21 have been enacted since 1990, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Some states have enacted or are considering multiple measures. They range from prohibiting imitation firearms in vehicles to banning the toys from convenience stores.

Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection.

Deberry said he wants to prevent incidents like one last year in which a 12-year-old boy was killed in West Memphis, Ark. DeAunta Farrow was shot by a police officer who said he thought the boy was carrying a gun and that the youngster refused to obey orders to halt. Investigators later said DeAunta had a toy gun.

"It's important that a child cannot walk into one of these little convenience stores, plop down a dollar and walk out with something that can get him shot on the spot without question," Deberry said.

A spokeswoman for the Toy Industry Association declined to comment on the trend toward fake gun legislation but referred a reporter to its Web site, which states that it "emphatically rejects the scenario that casts toys as villains."

Federal law requires toy guns or imitations to bear an orange tip to indicate they're not real.

However, lawmakers say those tips are often disguised or removed.

"It only takes 30 seconds for a kid to either take a marker or some paint, or shoe polish, and that orange tip is gone," said Deberry. He said the imitation guns are nearly identical in size, design and color to real ones.

"One of the imitation weapons I got at a convenience store looked very much like the assault weapons that the secret service and other FBI agents carry under their suits," he said. "Another one was a handgun that had a silencer on it."

New Jersey state Sen. Bob Smith has proposed legislation that would make it a crime to remove the tips or "obscure" a firearm by adding a tip to it.

"If police are called to the scene and don't see those tips, then they open fire because it appears the person has a deadly weapon," said Smith. "The officer doesn't have too many choices."

In Florida, state Sen. Gary Siplin has a bill that would prohibit individuals from carrying a paintball gun in a vehicle. He said he had been told about youngsters brandishing such guns while driving. He said if they're bold enough to do that they might use the fake weapon to commit a crime.

"Sometime these people try to go into a store and try to rob it with a toy gun, and if the police come they may shoot thinking it's a real gun," Siplin said.

The leading U.S. opponent of gun control doesn't think much of legislation that seeks to control fake guns.

National Rifle Association spokesman Ashley Varner said anti-toy gun legislation is "silly" because "it doesn't deal with issues of crime."

"It won't eradicate the human element of the crime," she said. "It doesn't target getting criminals off the street."

the 13th round 05-03-2008 11:55 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
they should just let the cops kill them, if your dumb enough to wave a fake gun at a cop you should die.

its just darwinism.

J-SMITH69 05-04-2008 12:03 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
liberals are disgusting

BirdmanMD 05-04-2008 12:17 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
Stupid liberal faggots. I swear they think every little tiny thing needs legislation. Video games need banned! (how bout you stop letting your ------- kid play them and be a good parent). Toy guns are bad!(kids cant buy airsoft pistols. adults have to. Your a dumb ---- for letting your kid unsafely handle a play gun).

There is absolutely no reason for most of the ---- politicians do, its just to distract you from the ---- they SHOULD be doing

Racintweek 05-04-2008 12:26 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
liberals are disgusting


not just liberals, all politicians should be hung

beaker 05-04-2008 12:33 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by Racintweek

not just liberals, all politicians should be hung

not all....but most....

if i was born into a rich family i would be in law school right now going into politics. they arent all bad. just the majority of them...look at ron paul

Racintweek 05-04-2008 12:38 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
not all....but most....

if i was born into a rich family i would be in law school right now going into politics. they arent all bad. just the majority of them...look at ron paul


true, its the ones who got where they are because of big businesses "donating" millions into thier campaigns.

beaker 05-04-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Racintweek

true, its the ones who got where they are because of big businesses "donating" millions into thier campaigns.

thats the best possible way to put it....


even at my university. its so ------- biased...fortunatly biased towards in a good cause. every US politician from this state has graduated law from this school. the two senators in office...chocran, wicker, and recently retired trent lott have donated ---- tons to this school. so, naturally, politics here are biased towards their beliefs. but like i said, fortunatly i agree with most of their issues

signorelli21 05-04-2008 11:46 AM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by buk9tp

Tennessee lawmakers are considering a proposal by state Rep. John Deberry to make it a misdemeanor to intentionally display or expose "an imitation firearm in a public place in a threatening manner." Exceptions include justifiable self defense, lawful hunting, and displays such as a museum collection.

ok, raise your hand if you go hunting with fake guns, or keep one for self defense? :S

cops shouldn't be so ------- trigger happy, thats why they are issued vests.

Boostin 05-04-2008 12:00 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by signorelli21

cops shouldn't be so ------- trigger happy, thats why they are issued vests.

WHAT?!?!?! i dont know about you, but if someone points a gun at me, i am shooting!

signorelli21 05-04-2008 12:08 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
please don't become a police officer

jmhalder 05-04-2008 12:17 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by signorelli21
ok, raise your hand if you go hunting with fake guns, or keep one for self defense? :S

i do, ---- how do you protect yourself?
http://www.toyarsenal.com/Merchant2/.../p528black.jpg
toy gun reprasent!!!1! lol

signorelli21 05-04-2008 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jmhalder
i do, ---- how do you protect yourself?

sling shot

hey it worked for that one guy >:(

lol

E-b0la 05-04-2008 01:35 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by signorelli21
please don't become a police officer

I don't see you putting a vest on and willingly taking a bullet, cocksucker.

J-SMITH69 05-04-2008 02:14 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
cops know the risk when they join up, we have rights no matter how "tough" their job is

F cops

beaker 05-04-2008 02:22 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
yep...we have the right to point toy guns at the police ::)

J-SMITH69 05-04-2008 02:38 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
yep...we have the right to point toy guns at the police ::)

this law isn't trying to stop "pointing fake guns at police" which is already "illegal" its trying to ban toy guns ::)

get your ---- straight and your mouth off the cock of LE.

---- the police.

beaker 05-04-2008 03:02 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
if im a cop and someone points what looks like a gun at me..there gonna get shot.

my priorities go......
1. my life and safety
2. the other persons life and safety
3. crx

ill be honest...i usually agree with you on most subjects....but name one reason why we should be giving kids toy guns.

kids are dumb enough to point a toy gun at an officer in a tense situation. they just dont possess the common sense yet. and hows a cop gonna know its fake...

kids can play with other ----.

Dr.Boost 05-04-2008 03:17 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
Laws are designed to protect the dumbest people in our society. :3


Originally Posted by dtrain
kids are dumb enough to point a toy gun at an officer in a tense situation. they just dont possess the common sense yet. and hows a cop gonna know its fake...

kids can play with other ----.

You have a kitchen full of steak knives, right? What's to stop your kid from taking one of those steak knives and pulling it out on an officer? You're kid might play baseball and have a baseball bat, so what's to stop him from going after an officer with his baseball bat?

As a parent you have a responsibility to teach your kids about this ----. If your kid still doesn't listen and pulls a fake gun on a cop and gets his ass blown off, then it was his own dumbass fault. :3 You teach your kid the dangers of things in life and to be smart in situations. If you don't, you have failed as a parent and the rest of the world can't do anything for you. :3

A 12 year old is old ebough to understand the dangers of pointing a gun at a police officer, or anybody for that matter.
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J-SMITH69 05-04-2008 03:25 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by dtrain
if im a cop and someone points what looks like a gun at me..there gonna get shot.

my priorities go......
1. my life and safety
2. the other persons life and safety
3. crx

ill be honest...i usually agree with you on most subjects....but name one reason why we should be giving kids toy guns.

kids are dumb enough to point a toy gun at an officer in a tense situation. they just dont possess the common sense yet. and hows a cop gonna know its fake...

kids can play with other ----.

don't become a cop then.

i played with real guns when i was a kid, so we are in agreement, kids should have real firearms

beaker 05-04-2008 03:29 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
believe it or not....i agree with that statement....i too played with real guns at a young age. they need to learn at an early age how to responsible with them and not treat them like playing video games. they need to know what they can do in real life

MR_T 05-04-2008 04:26 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
nope I say lets ban the guns from the stores, while were at it knives scare cops too so lets ban knives, oh and cholesterol is bad for you... lets ban saturated fats........ dumbest ---- I ever read

Nismo-san 05-08-2008 07:33 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by Racintweek

not just liberals, all politicians should be hung

------ right >:D

Tom-Guy 05-08-2008 10:16 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 
Wow, a successful buk9tp political thread where everyone agrees with buk.

t_cel_t 05-08-2008 11:11 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by MR_T
nope I say lets ban the guns from the stores, while were at it knives scare cops too so lets ban knives, oh and cholesterol is bad for you... lets ban saturated fats........ dumbest ---- I ever read

they already have in many states/cities

signorelli21 05-08-2008 11:42 PM

Re: as if gun control wasnt enough...
 

Originally Posted by E-b0la
I don't see you putting a vest on and willingly taking a bullet, cocksucker.

maybe you should actually read the article i was commenting about retard.

what it said was that a cop shop a 12 year old who was running away because he thought he had a weapon and he refused to obey, so my suggestion to the person that said "If someone points a gun at me i'm shooting" was not to become a police officer because of a lack of judgement, sorry if i don't want my 5 year old getting shot because he was playing cops n robbers in the front yard with the neighbor kids and a cop drove by and felt "threatened".


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