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BLUEHATCH 01-23-2005 10:27 PM

how much power do you loose?.....
 
yeah how much power is being lost through the powertrain? is it like 15-20% ? just trying to calculate how much HP i have at the crank...

FooK 01-23-2005 10:28 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
12-15% usually.

BLUEHATCH 01-23-2005 10:28 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
so there is no exact #?

Dr.Boost 01-23-2005 10:30 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH
so there is no exact #?

How could there be?
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BLUEHATCH 01-23-2005 10:31 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
---- i don't know, i just thougt that maybe there was... :-\

FooK 01-23-2005 10:38 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH
---- i don't know, i just thougt that maybe there was... :-\

too many variants for there to be an exact #, clutches, transmissions, axles, ---- like that.

fsufan814 01-23-2005 10:48 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH
---- i don't know, i just thougt that maybe there was... :-\

too many variants for there to be an exact #, clutches, transmissions, axles, ---- like that.

wheel size, gear size, flywheel weight, all of the above

Random Hero 01-23-2005 10:54 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
thats the dumbest thing ever dimitry... your trying to say you have more hp then you do. you made 188 hp to the wheels, i want to here no more of this ----.!

Ravage70 01-23-2005 11:02 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
you can easily say u make 200hp :P

BLUEHATCH 01-23-2005 11:09 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

thats the dumbest thing ever dimitry... your trying to say you have more hp then you do. you made 188 hp to the wheels, i want to here no more of this ----.!
no it's not that... i am just trying to figure out how much horse power i have at the crank comparing to my WRX... ---- I ain't trying to tell no one that i got more HP then i actualy do... THAT would be dumb 8)

fsufan814 01-23-2005 11:11 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH

thats the dumbest thing ever dimitry... your trying to say you have more hp then you do. you made 188 hp to the wheels, i want to here no more of this ----.!
no it's not that... i am just trying to figure out how much horse power i have at the crank comparing to my WRX... ---- I ain't trying to tell no one that i got more HP then i actualy do... THAT would be dumb 8)

who cares? whats the diff in 300hp and 250hp?? nothing if they both run 13 flat, hp is horseshit

Ravage70 01-23-2005 11:12 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
an awd tranny usually loses more than a fwd tranny
same with rwd

Spenser 01-23-2005 11:18 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH

thats the dumbest thing ever dimitry... your trying to say you have more hp then you do. you made 188 hp to the wheels, i want to here no more of this ----.!
no it's not that... i am just trying to figure out how much horse power i have at the crank comparing to my WRX... ---- I ain't trying to tell no one that i got more HP then i actualy do... THAT would be dumb 8)

who cares? whats the diff in 300hp and 250hp?? nothing if they both run 13 flat, hp is horseshit

50hp, idiot.

fsufan814 01-23-2005 11:20 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by BLUEHATCH

thats the dumbest thing ever dimitry... your trying to say you have more hp then you do. you made 188 hp to the wheels, i want to here no more of this ----.!
no it's not that... i am just trying to figure out how much horse power i have at the crank comparing to my WRX... ---- I ain't trying to tell no one that i got more HP then i actualy do... THAT would be dumb 8)

who cares? whats the diff in 300hp and 250hp?? nothing if they both run 13 flat, hp is horseshit

50hp, idiot.

::)

Spenser 01-23-2005 11:24 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
quarter mile times mean nothing :-*

fsufan814 01-23-2005 11:26 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by Spenser
quarter mile times mean nothing :-*

so if real world times dont matter then wtf does?

Spenser 01-23-2005 11:30 PM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by Spenser
quarter mile times mean nothing :-*

so if real world times dont matter then wtf does?

duh, mph. ::)

Bone1 01-24-2005 12:03 AM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
13-15% driveline loss for FWD Honda's (dyno coast down tested)

Whats the difference between a 330 whp CRX and a 550 whp CRX??????

About 1 second faster with less hp.

Cray91 01-24-2005 12:57 AM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by Spenser
quarter mile times mean nothing :-*

so if real world times dont matter then wtf does?

duh, mph. ::)

Don't you mean kph ya damn canuck? :P

Times on a standard track are better than just hp and top speed numbers IMO.

fsufan814 01-24-2005 01:12 AM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
its ok hes young and stupid

Spenser 01-24-2005 01:32 AM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 

Originally Posted by Cray91

Originally Posted by Spenser

Originally Posted by fsufan814

Originally Posted by Spenser
quarter mile times mean nothing :-*

so if real world times dont matter then wtf does?

duh, mph. ::)

Don't you mean kph ya damn canuck? :P

Times on a standard track are better than just hp and top speed numbers IMO.

---- you are dumb, MPH at the end of the quarter mile ::)

baldur 01-24-2005 02:16 AM

Re:how much power do you loose?.....
 
Drivetrain loss is NOT a percentage, never ever.
If your drivetrain loss is actually 20hp (and no, these coastdown tests are bullshit) and you are putting for example 200hp to the wheels. Put in a 50 shot of nitrous and you will pretty much make 250hp at the wheels. Hence drivetrain loss is purely a factor of speed and not torque.

Dyno dicks usually boost up their bullshit numbers by percentaging drivetrain loss. I can very much assure you that a 2000hp top alcohol dragster is not losing 200hp+ in the transmission. If that was the fact then the gearbox would pretty much boil all the oil in every run. I'm talking about a manual box here with no cooling at all.


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