How to Drift course 202 (advanced)
 

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those guys are dorks, they would have faster times if they would stop difting

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hhhm..just a thought, but i don't think they where TRYING for fast lap times. On the inboard camera, you can see him using the emergency brake to start the drift, not a real "get good lap times" tactic.

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yeah i guess so, but that shopping cart wing on the orange car doesn't do much good if you're trying to drift.

its funny listening to those japanese guys get so excited about that

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uhm thats what Japanese racing is all about, they have huge ass drift competitions and ----..

Man, I had a really good one of a EVO one time... man it was sick.

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check out this sexy drift

http://members.cox.net/huskins/SupraDrift.mpeg

hahaha, can somebody say "Upsell Tires?!"

http://www.arctic-racing.com/images/JunEvo.mpg

thats another one of my fav's... Jun Evo doing a sexy AWD drift, gotta love the 1 handed action..

Jeff

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can you dift in regular cars is it hard? I have a 2002 nissan spec v i want to try it once or twice. Will it ---- up my tires big time if i just do it like once or twice?

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no it won't ---- up your tires anymore than burning off. you don't have to smoke the tires to drift. like those fruity japs. just come up to a corner, and turn as sharp as you can until the back starts to slide, then correct yourself. do it somewhere where you aren't going to crash into someone.

one day i was late for baseball practice, and i power slid through a yellow light into campus. in my FWD crx. its so light in the back, it slides all over the place. very unsafe. POS IHMO.

slide sideways between two rows of cars waiting at a red light.

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have to change your underwear once you stopped?

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drifting is fun... i used to do it all the time in my 1990 celica but i cant wait to get my crx squirly just gotta get it running right first :-)

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yeah japanese drifting competition.. you try and pass the opponent.... doesn't it look hard as ---- to do? =)

mmmm skyline vs s15 looked like the signal auto one

yeah that jun lemon evo went completely sideways!!!

DON"T EVER DRIFT IN ANY CAR except RWD and AWD!!!

FF cars you will lose the back end and you can not control your drift... and you can't counter steer because you can't catch up to the backend... this is called a SKID =)

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OK, now this thread is speaking my language..

First off, you're making drifting sound like you just pop onto the street and do it. No. What you'll end up do is a power slide. What's the difference? You're you're using the torque of your motor to have your car pulled/pushed through the corner.

What they're doing in that those videos takes years upon YEARS to master. Parallel drifting? Come on..

Plus, there are A LOT of drifting techniques. The setup of your suspension HIGHLY dictates whether you'll drift, or power slide. It's not something that a lot of people who "drag" know how to do. Plus, the setups for drag and drift are completely different. As are the setups between drift and autoX, and autoX and circuit..

I wouldn't recommend just going out and trying to "drift", you'll break something if you don't understand the concepts behind what you're trying to make your car do, and how to properly achieve those characteristics behind that task.

But.. cool vids. ;) If you want to see A LOT of phat Lancer Drifting.. (My favorite.. AWD Turbo. Muahahah) check out http://www.lancer-evo.net/html/video.html

This one is particularly interesting. http://www.lancer-evo.net/video/download/video-124.zip ;D

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That sucks I really wanted to try it. My car is fwd though so I dont think I will. Plus I have no idea what im doing.

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turboef9, i think you're giving them too much credit, it isn't hard to drift. its acually really easy. if you start to get too far out in a corner, you just give it more gas and you tighten down.

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Ya.. and if you're driving an FF? You give it more gas and you'll grip and shoot forward, ending the slide. In FR you give it more gas, un oh, low and behold, your inertia will actually push your spinning tires out further.

If you "go out to far", the way to bring it back in an FF, you actually modulate the slide with your clutch. A combination of popping the clutch actually upsets the drive line, and creates the throttle control that keep the tires pulling you through the drift.

In an FR, you modulate the eBrake, and throttle TOGETHER to keep the slide in effect. And depending on if you're too understeered, you slip the clutch..

So, don't pretend that drifting is some "anyone can do" driving technique. If you REALLY want to get into it.. I'm sure Jeff would create a Drift Forum, and I can go into detail..

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lancers are gay, the only people who own them in this country are rich "mid life crisis" men, get a sunny gti-r, or a sierra sapphire cosworth

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what a bunch of crap turboef9.

those japs have to pull the ebrake to break the tires loose? cause thats all i does is lock the rear tires. to make them slide. why not hit the gas?

i do it all the time in the maro. if i go into a turn too fast, the ass end will start to slide. then you correct yourself, and give it some gas, even if you aren't getting traction, you will get pushed through the corner.

if you're give it gas and you GRIP. you can't dift in that car. drifting is a perfect balance between loss of traction and having enough to be able to direct the car to where you want to go.

err, i think you've been playing to much gran turismo. pressing the cluth will just make the tires grip and pull you to where you're steering. why not just let off the gas a little, and you will start to get better traction and move slowly towards the way you want to go. do you think you have time to sit there and pop the clutch in and out around a small corner?

why would you have to use the ebrake? why not just put the hammer down? or maybe these cars can't brake the tires loose? i doubt it.



i reason you see that guy PULLING THE EBRAKE, is because he wants to drift when that car SHOULDN'T DRIFT. those guys were doing that for show, or for whatever japanese "drift" race they are doing. the only cars that should drift are can that can't handle, EG muscle cars. even a 800hp FR supra shouldn't drift. if he starts to drift (not on purpose) he is a dildo and giving it too much gas.

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Haha.. I'm going to recommend a Drift Forum to Jeff.. We'll continute this discussion there.. :)

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bottom line, drifting is a balance between traction, and no traction.

just enough traction to be able to move the car in the direction you want to go. and not enough traction to be able to slide.

not poping the clutch, pulling the ebrake. none of that ---- has anything to do with drifting. MAYBE when you're in a car that SHOULD NEVER DRIFT. and you HAVE to pull the ebrake to start to slide. thats where it comes into play. and thats not real drifting. thats a show, or a so called "difting" race.

watch the junevo video. i don't see him POPING THE CLUTCH, i see him doing exactly what i said. he is giving it gas when he has to tighten up, and letting off a little when he was to slide more. plain and simple.

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Johnny, Drifting is not simple in a FWD car at all.. in fact I have done it a few times on the corse, but not on the street. Its pretty known that terminal understeer is a very common problem with FWD cars. I dont know what you are experiencing in your 1g, its probably just suspension slop, that makes you feel like a drift, hah

No, we arnt creating a drifting forum.. lol

Jeff

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i wasn't talking about my pos crx. i already told you the suspension was fucked. if i hit a bump around a corner the entire back end comes off the ground and i start to slide. which isnt drifting, its skidding sideways out of control.

you aren't suppsed to drift in a front wheel drive car.

i wasn't never talking about a fwd car, i was talking about a rear wheel drive car. those are the only cars that are supposed to drift, and not even then. only if they can't handle

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OK, dude, you're obviously talking about something you know nothing about. You don't just "Give it gas" and then turn.
I like to see you do that in an inertia drift.. Ya, the Evo is also AWD, and going around a large turn.. not a "corner".
But whatever.. You're the big hoss.. This thread has turned into an argument, if you want to discuss, PM me..

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you're taking what i'm saying wrong.

i guess you're the big pro RICE car driver. i shouldn't try and argue with you.

http://streetracing.tiora.net/japan/drift/drift1.htm

read it. the only thing having to do with a CLUTCH is dropping to get the tires spinning (no tourqe turbocharged car)

http://velocity.isfaster.com/drift/s...w/overview.htm
THROTTLE MOTIONS, MEANING MORE GAS = CORRECTING, LESS GAS = DRIFTING OUT MORE.

still going to argue?

man found the perfect explaination.

http://www.driftworks.org/

its in the theory/advanced part of the website.

quit arguing with me. this isn't playstation 2 gran turismo

QUIT ARGUING ME WITH I'M RIGHT 84.5% OF THE TIME

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tigris, or anyone else who wants to learn, buy a car your willing to see go into a ditch. because i promise if you persue the skill of drifting, and you learn it by trial and error, you will wreck you car. youll go though tires real quick too.

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Wanna drift a FWD car, get an adjustable rear sway bar. Start tightning it till you are about neutral in handleing. It will be much easier to induce oversteer.

RWD is easy. Hit the gas in a turn. Let off the gas to get the tires to grab and end your slide.


Mike

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Bah.. for RWD bah, do that in an S-curve...

As far as FWD.. yes, a rear swaybad will increase overstreer..

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I have....and even when you know what your doing it is still a little bit on the scary side ;D


Mike

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Now throw this in the mix. Extreme drifting. drifting at extremely high speeds. a clip from the advan neova promo.
flying into curves at 160kph.

www.arctic-racing.com/images/extremedrift1.mpg

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omg, could that blow off valve be anymore annoying? ----, you can even hear a slight tone of compressor surge with it (lame) but very cool video, nice driving.

Jfef

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questions on FWD driftng. here is a small vid. these are two K-cars. here in japan very few cars are FWD. K-cars are really the only ones. To be considered a K-car or yellow-plate they have to have engine with 660cc's or less. Yes, very small. Many have turbo though. These two do.

www.arctic-racing.com/images/kcardrift.asx

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random-strike

your argument is for crazy torque monster.. where pushing the gas would make the car torque steer... and make the tires break loose and you control it with the front wheels

these japanese cars are a tad different...

you have BIG displacement, and big torque and alot more responsive engine

where the japanese cars are small displacement boosted and the responsiveness of the power is alittle lagged... (turbo lag)

you can't compare drifting with torque steer... cause when you push the gas your tires break loose from all the torque

when the japanese cars push the gas the power needs to be spooled since you need to brake b4 you enter a turn ( i think it's called trail braking ) the power isn't instant and the hand brake is used to break the tires loose and then throttle modulation is applied to control the drift

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eyah i know that, but with all cars "throttle modulation" is used to control the drift. and ef9 was saying i was wrong :/

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there's no other way to drift... but you must always have the tires spinning =) if not you get grip and shoot like an arrow =)

INITIAL D BAHAHAHAHAHAHA

i wanna be a trendy ----- get an 87 toyota hatchback GTS put fugiwara tofu and LETS GO RACING DOWN 2 LANE HIGHWAYS at the local mountains! and drift sideways around every corner

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damn you'd really have to get soemthing that you wouldn't mind crashing, or at least denting on guard rails and ----. i'd never do it ON PURPOSE unless i was at the track lol. but sometimes you get squirly around corners