How bad could an ebay header possibly be?
 

Unfortunatly my dreams of boost are having to be put off for at least another summer due to some financial hardship. I'm thinking I want to get a header in the meantime, but I def don't want to pay the money for a DC or something decent that I will only use for a year or so. I was looking on ebay and you can get a cheep chinese header for like 50 bucks shipped. The only thing I care about is how it performs so if the cheep as coating comes of in a day i could give a ---- less. Anyone have any experience with these? LOL and yes i know im gonna get flamed for going NA but thats just how i gotta roll for now. :(

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My cousin Chris had one of those $50 headers on his accord for quite a few months, upon taking it off we didn't see any problems with it.

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how was it performance wise?

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everyone i had fit and worked fine, i always went for the stainless.

Why not just put the $$ towards a set of DSM 450's?

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Performance wise, well he already had a full exhaust and intake on it so you couldn't tell VERY much but there was a difference he said.

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We put an ebay 40 dollar "buy it now" header on my brothers 89 Si hatch, it had a nice ceramic coating, fit well, was easy to install, there was a little difrence on the top end but that was about it. Had if for over 6 months without problem

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if u have a stocker keep it to save your money for these financial hardships :l

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LOL Its not like im deep into dept or anything I just had a whole bunch of unexpected expenses that put my car budget for the year down to like 200 bucks. Yeah I know I prob. should save it for the turbo set up but I'm pretty sure its not possible for me to go more then a few months without doing at least something to my car. ;D

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doesn't puttng a "good" header on a honda only get like 4 or 5 horsepower. Or does every onethink they are great because you can Feel" the difference

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I know a dude that spent $1100 on an SMS header for his Type-R, but "dude, when it hits V-TAK..." ::)


JP

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:o.. wow. What an.. wow.

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They are pretty good quality and will give you as much performance or close to a DC....with that said it will only be 2 or 3 hp. Not worth the money, even if it is only$50. Save your money and buy your turbo parts.

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I know a guy who got one of those ebay headers, 5 years later... BAM. Herpes.

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My old EK had a SSautoshit header on it for about a year with no issues.

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I have ordered Ebay headers for a few cars and some like the SSauto V6 MX6 ones are quite good.SS has some JDM style ones with the 2.5" collector etc and they look pretty good as well.

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Im sporting one now, its ok, but N/A still sucks. "stainless" is a load of BS. Ive had mine for a little over 7 months and its starting to not look so happy. Not nearly as bad as if it were just steel, but its cheap stainless. I got nothing top end, but it felt (there we go w/ the 'feel' crap again, hehe) like it had more low end to me, i could get off stop lights easier, passing in 5th was a little more not so crappy, just around town it felt like it wasnt so shitty. Mind you, I had a stock exhaust on it w/ 1-7/8" pipes at the time. Fitment was good, BUT you have to match the ports on the 2 pieces and on the head flange b/c they are not quite right, just slightly off, if you dont I can see you loosing power b/c of the blcoked/mismatched ports.

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i got a chikara header on mine?? are those any good?? how are they price wise?? it feels like i got no low end power.

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dang so nosex shoulda pulled off the header a little sooner. :-\


eBay header=cheap
cheap=good
good=works
works=reality
reality=header on your honda not gonna do very much

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I did a generic chip job on Rob Deal's '98 ITR powered hatchcrap. Bone stock JDM ITR, just bolt ons, one of which was an early $$$ AN-R header which I believe was a clone of an SMS. 191 whp, you can bet it didn't make that in stock configuration, and it wasn't all in the ECU either as it had GSR ignition map +1 degree at WOT.

The big dollar headers, when correctly matched to the engine, are voodoo. You will not get gains like this from a DC sports, as those are a well-constructed "show" header meant to look good, and don't really perform. The primary diameters, lengths, and *especially* collector + expansion chambers on them are completely wrong to make power. eGay swill is only going to be worse.

The aforementioned ITR hatchcrap ended up becoming a built 2.1 liter ITR, 85X92mm. It made 158 peak... wheel torque :P Expensive, not at all worth the money it takes to build one, but a big dollar NA Honduh is really really fun to drive.

Either spend the big dollars, or go turbo.

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i had a ebay header on my car for 2 years now n my car has been running strong. oh yea i bottomed out once to didnt crack the header, just a small little bump. but yea for real save up for that turbo. or buy it piece by piece like me.

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if you can feel a difference it probably is 4-5 hp at least... I mean, whats your butt dyno resolution?

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:-\

The butt dyno feels sudden changes in power, it has no resolution.

For example, the eGay header makes exactly 2 whp less in your upper rpm powerband where you race, but it completely and totally kills off your bottom end. The transition from the soggy bottom end to the slightly less than stock power is going to feel like a HUGE power gain to the butt dyno.

This is why people use actual dynos, or close scrutiny of 1/4 mile timeslips to deduce performance gains.