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hotrex 08-14-2005 06:29 PM

hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
well i met my buddy at johnnycake airport this morning at 6am.

heres my patented johnny strike jdm domestik poser pic.
e350 for the bitches.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0623.jpg

got to the track, registered and took a 3 lap practice moto.

this is me testing the outside line.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0629.jpg

first moto, i got tangled up at the start due to my dead last gate selection.....
was in almost last place and started passing mad dudes. worked my way up to 20th place or so then took a highside shitter after over jumping a table top

ended up grabbing 27th place out of 40 first moto.

second moto i got a sweet gate and partied hard. midpack start and stayed there for the entire moto, ended up 21st out of 40. not bad for my first competitive race in a long time. my conditioning needs to get better and i will place much higher, i have the speed, but i tire out.

heres some pics. im on the honda, 635x with the what looks to be hot pink chest protector. and black riding gear. 8)
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0625.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0626.jpg
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0628.jpg

oh and kvh, i took out quite a few 4 strokes all day. SAVE THE 2 STROKE FAITH

stillnoturbo 08-14-2005 06:35 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
It's good to see your mom came to watch and support you! I see where you get your build from! lol. JK. It's good to see your doing something constructive with not wrenching on the GSR. Good luck with the Motocrossing.
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...0/000_0628.jpg

rexracer 08-14-2005 06:45 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
well you cant say you took out quite a few 4 strokes. You have to race an equally experienced rider to even say something like that.

hotrex 08-14-2005 06:49 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
i can say i took out quite a few 4 strokes, its not the bike, its the rider, a 450 aint ---- if you cant ride it.

some people prefer 2 strokes and i am one of them, i rode a 450r, and could have bought one, but i hate compression braking and the heavy feel of the bike. its not much more power than my 250r at all. so i sprung for the new 2 stroke instead.

its all a matter of what your comfortable on


tranceminister 08-14-2005 07:03 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
Good stuff Josh, glad to see your keeping busy with a new hobby for now :)

nonvtec 08-14-2005 07:32 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
I've been to that track a couple times for crazy 4x4 truck racing and what not, looking good.

MikeJ-2009 08-14-2005 10:47 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
Josh, I'm glad this motorcycle thing didn't turn into just another hotrex idea and you're actually doing it. ;)

Do they let you punch people as you go by them like (----, what was that game again?)

scottsi 08-14-2005 11:00 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
roadrash, remember roadrash 2 and you could have chains n ----

RedCavz 08-14-2005 11:42 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
Sweet. Josh I got my problem solved. I stopped by again toniht but the sunfighter was out front so I left

Dx 101 08-14-2005 11:52 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
we used to road rash on bicycles back in the day.

Perfek360 08-15-2005 07:15 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
so how does racing moto-x wear you down? i've always woundered that

Racintweek 08-15-2005 08:55 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
go ride one for a few hours and you'll find out. its like forming a chair with your body and having some one pushing down on your shoulders

tranceminister 08-15-2005 08:58 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 

Originally Posted by Dx 101
we used to road rash on bicycles back in the day.

Haha I remember doing that stuff.

88dx 08-15-2005 09:31 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
I want to see that e350 doing some smokey burnouts ;)

hotrex 08-15-2005 01:46 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
no smoky burnouts , dont need to lose my job.

also, go try to wrestle a 250 in the sand in 95 degree heat with 95 percent humidity.

in one lap your exhausted.

Perfek360 08-15-2005 06:08 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
damn sounds like some hard ----.....i wouldn't mind going out riding, but i don't have a dirt bike and i'd prolly kill myself...lolz

nitrogen 08-15-2005 06:24 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
it is pretty damn intense when you lineup at that starting gate. I know the feeling.. and the whole race your
just in the moment.. its ------- awesome. Hotrex, let me know if you need any info on tuning your suspension
for different track conditions.. i've got a bunch of different setup notes from factory honda, that i got in my
hontech class..

raiden571 08-15-2005 07:03 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
motocross is for panzees, GNCC is for the real riders

hotrex 08-15-2005 07:08 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
well i think im gonna need a revalve and some springs to optimize my suspension for me.

what you think a descent clicker position is for my forks and shock for a 275 lb novice mx'er??

PMP_C_TEG 08-16-2005 03:03 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
What classes are you running?

Cray91 08-16-2005 05:18 AM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 

Originally Posted by hotrex
well i think im gonna need a revalve and some springs to optimize my suspension for me.

what you think a descent clicker position is for my forks and shock for a 275 lb novice mx'er??

I guess you don't have the build of a typical mx'er

nitrogen 08-16-2005 03:46 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
Before you make any changes you'll want to set your race sag (if you havent already) . Figure out what your
unladen sag is, this way you can determine if you have the right spring for your weight. As far as your adjustments
for rebound and compression on forks and shock, you'll want to start with stock settings, take the bike to your
practice spot, and make adjustments 2-4 clicks at a time, untill you find what feels best for you. This way you can
make small adjustments at the track to compensate for the differences knowing how the bike should feel..
Here are some notes from mx-tech.com, and i'll post some more info from my notes when i get them out of
my toolbox at school. late.

shock:
Setting the rebound:

1.) Find a relatively fast straight with braking bumps leading into the entrance of a corner. Reduce (Turn clicker out) the rebound damping until the rear end begins to hop or feel loose. Finally, increase (Turn clicker in) the rebound damping until the sensation goes away.

2.) Find a jump that tends to launch the motorcycle out. The rear end should absorb and then smoothly lift the motorcycle into the air. If the rear end bounces up, add rebound. (Turn clicker in)

3.) Find some large whoops. The motorcycle should track straight through the whoops with the rear wheel extending to the ground before the next impact. If it does not perform as described as above, it is packing and the rebound damping should be reduced! (Turn clicker out) (Please note the guide for sand set-up, as these rules don't apply for sand.)

Setting the compression:

1.) Find a corner with acceleration bumps on the exit. The rear of the motorcycle should follow the ground. If the rear end "breaks up", soften the compression. (Turn clicker out) (If this fails soften the rebound two clicks.) (Turn clicker out)

2.) Find some rough sections, a large jump and a couple of "G-Outs". The shock should bottom on the roughest section but it should not be a slamming sensation. Add compression to fight bottoming. (Turn clicker in.) But avoid going to far as small bump ride will be sacrificed in the trade. Remember the adjusters have a primary effect on the low speed, so even a large change in setting may only affect bottoming resistance slightly. Remember bottoming your suspension is not necessarily a bad thing. You should strive to bottom off the biggest bottoming load obstacle on the track. If you don't you're not getting maximum plushness from your suspension.

forks:
Setting the compression:

1.) The forks should react to all track variations. If the forks seem harsh on small bumps or holes, soften the compression. (Turn clicker out) If they aren't, stiffen (Turn clicker in.) until they do feel harsh and then turn back a click or two.

2.) Now find the rough part of the track again. The forks should bottom over the worst obstacle. If harsh bottoming occurs, add oil in 5 mm increments.

Setting the rebound:
The rebound damping is responsible for the stability and the cornering characteristics of the motorcycle.

1) Find a short sweeper. When the forks compress for the turn, the speed at which the forks return is the energy that pushes your front wheel into the ground. If the forks rebound too quickly, the energy will be used up and the bike will drift wide, or wash. If the rebound is too slow, the bike will tuck under and turn too soon to the inside. Find the appropriate balance for each track.

2). With the bike turning well, the wheel should return to the ground quickly yet not deflect off berms or bounce off jumps.

Going to different tracks:
For hardpack to intermediate:
Set the compression softer, (Turn clicker out) front and rear to help get maximum wheel contact and plushness.

Sand tracks:
(Non-square edged bumps); More low speed compression and rebound are necessary. Start by adding 1-2 clicks (Turn clicker in.) of rebound and as the track gets rough, add compression 1-4 clicks. (Turn clicker in.) (Supplementary sand set-up techniques). Harshness is a result of packing in forks. Remember to add compression (Turn clicker in) to help keep the front end from packing. The rear suspension will exhibit packing by swapping. To eliminate swapping begin adding compression (Turn clicker in) until the bike tracks straight and then add rebound (Turn clicker in) to keep the rear following the terrain of each whoop. Don't be concerned if your clickers are nearly maxed out in sand conditions. Unless of course you had your bike revalved for sand.

Supercross:
(G-load, curb hits); G-loads produce slow piston speeds. This means that less dampening is produced by the shock and forks in a situation that causes more of a bottoming load. To set your bike up for Supercross adjust the compression stiffer (Turn clicker in) on the suspension (2-6), clicks and in some circumstances raise oil level and/or change to stiffer springs.

Unpleasantries?
Headshake:
Adjust the forks lower in the triple clamps.
Excessive rear end kick:
Check for packing, which is identified by kick to side in hard to loam conditions. If you observe packing, soften rebound. (Turn clicker out.) This cannot be avoided if you brake improperly and lock the rear wheel up and/or pull in the clutch, on the entrance to corners.
Keep a record of the different settings if you race different tracks. That way you can start at a point that worked well the previous times.



hotrex 08-17-2005 02:45 PM

Re: hotrex motocross madness, mx338 southwick *pics*
 
awesome info. i will use that to ---- around with my setup at rocky hill mx track tomorrow which is a nice intermediate terrain.


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