J-SMITH69

so you guys would rock an avalanche then?

OnYx

sure they are......... NOT.

J-SMITH69

if the "oiling" of a honda engine was better than a GM then GM would've copied it by now...

d16forlife

NO!whats up with all the plastic on that truck?I know its there for that ruged look and maybe some function if your heavy into 4x4ing but it just looks to cheaply made.I cant beleave they put a Cadillac badge on it eather.

OnYx

Random im only going to say this once and if it gets through your skull ill be amazed. I am sick of bickering with you over this ---- and your American pride is great but it blinds you. I hate arguing with you for you are very bull headed. I don’t want to kill our friendship over a topic like this where you don’t listen or not wanting to listen.

I AM NOT A ------- MECHANICAL ENGENEER SO I AM NOT QUALIFIED TO STATE WHAT IS TRUELY DIFFRENT AND WHAT ISNT. I SEE WHAT I SEE ON THE ROADS HERE AND WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE TAHT DRIVE TEH POS AMERICAN 4 CYLS. Now Honda admits that they cant build or do not want to build a V8 so they go to GM because they know V8's and what does GM do? They can’t build a 4 cyl so they go to HONDA to put their motors in there Saturn’s. Why didn’t GM just put their ecotec or what ever the ---- it is in there? Because IT SUCKS ***. Just admit it... and drop it already.. Jesus.

J-SMITH69

ricers say japs make 4 cy and americans make v8s

you know why honda used a GM v8 is there new concept truck

BECAUSE IT COSTS LESS TO PAY FOR ANOTHER COMPANIES ENGINE TO BUILD YOU OWN FROM SCRATCH.

even if honda did completly build a production v8 engine, they would use blocks made by someone, heads made by someone, xt. they cannot just pull a spankin new engine out of their ******** and know its goin to last and work right.

honda racing uses v8 engines, honda makes v6 engines, basically the same thing... V engines.

BTW GM used a V6 engine in the saturn... not a i4... GM can build a v6. they're tryin to save money...

my american pride does not blind me, its just peices of metal working together... no one can make something and keep it secret if you sell it to the public...

sohc-zc-14b-turbo

if i see one parked on my street im going to be the first person to **** on it.

90civicdxtobezx

ugly as hell. the need a 2 door 8 ft bead with a v8 CART motor in it. i like the inside though.