Originally Posted by random-strike

because you don't pay.

when you make money and start to pay, and have a house and bills and a family. you will realize that its bullshit. and you'll be just as mad. considering you do all those things.

you'll wise up.

Originally Posted by random-strike

you'll be worried when you see how much of your check goes in taxes straight off the top every two weeks.

i pay over a thousand dollars in taxes every two weeks. is that fair? all these programs i pay for i can't use because i make too much money. this is why socialism fails. you'll realize this when you work.

Originally Posted by jagojon3

There you go again, where do you get this idea that I don't pay? What don't I pay for? Sure I'll pay more taxes when I get more money, no ----.

Originally Posted by c0mpl3x

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tax rates average 75-80%

so youre saying you make over 60k a year?

Originally Posted by rawr

Uh, no. Johnny doesn't reply to anyone who responds to his arguments intelligently. Check the last few of his rant threads. You'll find that he hasn't replied to any of my posts unless he feels he finds them useful in trying to make a blunt and pointless asinine statement.

No one is bating Johnny to call him stupid. He posts purposefully vague, extreme statements in order to generate a reaction so he has an opportunity to make his point in a very loud and annoying manner. He never articulates any of his ideas until he's put on the spot. Even then they're explained in a very crass and demeaning manor in order to magnify his own self importance. This method of argument causes others to attempt to balance his statements out with equally over the top arguments from the opposite popular viewpoint. In which he is aware that they will be less thought out and less focused as he hasn't given the other party in the argument enough information to properly debate his statement until he's already baited them into saying something that he can refute. Lately he's been projecting typical, neo-conservative statements lined with racist undertones then back dropping to classical liberalism to support his bullshit, vague statements.

Most of the people who argue with Johnny just want him to shut the ---- up, but instead of being direct about it they try to play his game in order to make him feel less competent. To "put him in his place" if you will. That's not what anyone should be doing because Johnny gets off on trolling political threads. So he's going to continue doing this until either no one responds to him or he matures to a point where he sees what a huge ass he's making of himself on the internet. If he really cared about any of the values he says he holds, he would argue them from a point that would help other people understand them, rather than using them to insult people who hold a slightly different value set than him.

Originally Posted by N/A mike

johnny where do you live? i'd like to buy you a beer sometime.

Originally Posted by random-strike

you don't pay income tax. you'll get all of it back. most people making under 50k a year don't pay any federal income tax at all.

you don't pay very much.

i pay thousands of dollars a month. do you think i don't deserve that money? why do other people deserve it more than me?

there are certain things that we have to pay taxes for. we don't need a federal income tax for those things. we need a federal income tax to pay for all the welfare bullshit, this includes corporate welfare. iowa went to obama because mccain did not support corn subsidies. isn't that pathetic.

i make 75,000 a year. not counting any bonus(s) i get. or other income.

Originally Posted by jagojon3

So what is it, I don't pay income tax or I don't pay much?

Yes, if you make more than me you pay more in income tax, you don't deserve to keep that money. That's the price you pay to live in a civilized society. If you don't like it you can geeeeeeet out.

Originally Posted by random-strike

i live in oregon, i'd take that beer