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Old 03-14-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by crxvtec91
I say you lock him up... throw him in a basement or tie him up for a month , just don't let him up or out. It will force him to go throw with droll(spell check); or beat his *** to the point he forgets everything (will that might not work), this is the point you have to act quick if he is steeling money he is deeper into this ---- then you think. ACT NOW!!!!
Well some of your logic makes sense, but some is retarded. I definitely agree that if he's stealing money from his family he's probably addicted to something. Withdrawling (---- spell check me too) somebody without medical help is a hard thing to do and takes a long time. It really depends how long he's been doing opiates for. If he has a minor physical addiction you could get away with some Valium and Clonadine for 5 days or so and then he'll be kicked. If he's heavily addicted then it takes much more. Trust me, it's not something you want to deal with. He won't sleep or eat for weeks even a month+. He'll scream for days straight at the beginning and may even try and hurt himself. Medical detox would be much safer and relieve the stress you'd have from trying to do it yourself. If you do decide to detox him in your own home then let me know and I'll put a "kick pack" together for you of good meds that'll help take the edge off for him.

The good news is that you absolutely cannot die directly from opiate withdrawls. The only drug withdrawls that can kill you are from alcohol. While opiates are by far the most uncomfortable and miserable and lengthy they don't hurt your body too much. Anyone who hasn't gone through them can't possibly understand the misery opiate withdrawls bring about. In the old days they used to toss you in a padded room with a straight jacket and let you kick until you slept. So many people experienced direct hell from that. Good luck with him man. I'm sure when he's older he'll appreciate the tough love. Beating his *** is stupid though; it'll just make him drift farther away. Love conquers all, not hillbilly beat downs. I'll Pm you about the bead blasting and fmic. Peace.
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Old 03-14-2008, 08:43 PM
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Just do what i said! Knock that ------- out!


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Old 03-14-2008, 08:50 PM
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im not going to beat my brother up whats it going to do besides push him away more, me and my parent are thinking about a inpatient treatment facility, counseling and just tell him that we love him and we care about what he does with his life
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:11 PM
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I quit everything cold turkey, one day I just said no more. I havent had more than an ocasional night out drinking with my buddies in nearly 2 years. It is possible you just need to get him away from the wrong people.
+1, but no one got me away from the wrong people I just decided it was stupid. Funny thing was I got arrested twice AFTER leaving that ---- behind. Once was old ---- I did back when I was into ---- that got found out, second I had a couple beers and got pulled. Been around 2-3 years since i've been in trouble.

Best thing is have a heart to heart and tell him you're worried. Show him examples that will hit close to home of people that are dead/jailed/ or just plain worthless junkies. and just hope for the best. No one can make him do anything he won't do himself
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Old 03-14-2008, 09:27 PM
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dude i've been tring to do the same ---- for my brother for 5 years now. he wont listen and yours probably wont eather
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Old 03-14-2008, 10:00 PM
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I agree with a lot of the people above...i used to live w/my mom in So Cal...was on the wrong track in life...my pops was in the military, came by one time to see how i was doing--i wasn't as deep as your bro sounds, but I was on the wrong track. i'd agree that the best way is to distance him from these bad influences...as soon as i moved in with my dad, he made sure that he always knew what i was doing, would take time and spend it doing ---- with me (ie working on cars, riding dirt bikes, taking trips where ever). I'd say that *** beatings only go so far...try to hook him up with a job, spend some time doing stuff with him as a safe alternative to drugs...

my roommate now has started hanging out w/some other kids and started doing x and vitamin A...i've told him to lay off the stuff a bit, and try to take time to help him work on his car and stuff so i know he's doing something better than drugs...

As far as the money stealing goes, I'd probably flip some tables and do some yelling...throw in some military training and scare the ---- out of him, but thats for stealing from the fam..

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Old 03-14-2008, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bitchasscracker
dude i've been tring to do the same ---- for my brother for 5 years now. he wont listen and yours probably wont eather
Did you beat his ***
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Old 03-14-2008, 11:00 PM
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"I can show you how to be a man, but I cant be a man for you.." say that to him.. then give him a pound and a pat on the back.
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Old 03-15-2008, 03:39 PM
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Yah, he needs to go to jail. It will give him time to think(after the ---- is outta his system). I went to jail for 20 days for a dui. Longest days of my life. Was the worst lowest part of my life. I DONT DRINK AND DRIVE ANYMORE! I drink every once and a while but, never will i get behind the wheel when intoxicated.
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Old 03-16-2008, 12:17 AM
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Oxy is bad ----. He's not going to quit unless he actually wants to. You're not going to convince him to quit. I don't mind taking a pain killer or a muscle relaxer every once in a while, but I'll stay away from Oxy. I've heard of too many people ------- up their lives over that ----.

My brother had a bad oxy addiction. Don't know how he quit, but he did. He lived with my mom at the time and she had to watch him fall apart on that ----. I think seeing her crying over and over again really got to him and that might have helped him quit.
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