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Old 07-03-2006, 02:35 AM
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We MADE them kidnap one of the jewbags?
if we recognized theyre legit and democratically elected government.. then so would israel.. and they wudnt have been strapped for cash like they are.. tensions would have been as high.. israel wouldnt have been firing artillery rounds into a family picnic.. everyone would have respected the borders and left it at that..
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IMO hamas fucked themselves over when they refused to recognize israel. but they set out some fairly simple terms for israel to agree with then they would recognize israel and israel refused.. the terms were to release a bunch of political prisoners and open up more roads for the palestinians..
The terms werent reasonable at all.

They wanted land from the 1967 borders. Seeing as how militants have launched 900 rockets from Gaza since Israel pulled out of Gaza, they arent making a good case for themselves to take the rest of the land. Golan Heights is out of the question, you'll see why once you visit Israel. It's also been legally annexed for that reason.

How did a political prisoner get arrested?
Only when he or she acted upon illegal activity AKA terrorism :P
There are too many Muslims in the area to just arrest them all.

To be an internationally recognized body of government, you cant endorse terrorist activity.
If you need to, you organize your own militia which will wear your uniform.
Hamas was a joke to start with.
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if we recognized theyre legit and democratically elected government.. then so would israel.. and they wudnt have been strapped for cash like they are.. tensions would have been as high.. israel wouldnt have been firing artillery rounds into a family picnic.. everyone would have respected the borders and left it at that..
They wouldnt be strapped for cash if they focused half of their energies on education and their economy rather than hating all who have education and an economy.

Israel only fires artillery rounds into picnics when the militants hide behind families and children.
Just like how they hide in their own Mosques.

Israel might (have) recognize Hamas as legit if Hamas recognizes that Israel exists.
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:44 AM
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I think we can all agree on one thing
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Old 07-03-2006, 02:52 AM
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The terms werent reasonable at all.

They wanted land from the 1967 borders. Seeing as how militants have launched 900 rockets from Gaza since Israel pulled out of Gaza, they arent making a good case for themselves to take the rest of the land. Golan Heights is out of the question, you'll see why once you visit Israel. It's also been legally annexed for that reason.

How did a political prisoner get arrested?
Only when he or she acted upon illegal activity AKA terrorism :P
There are too many Muslims in the area to just arrest them all.

To be an internationally recognized body of government, you cant endorse terrorist activity.
If you need to, you organize your own militia which will wear your uniform.
Hamas was a joke to start with.
israel isnt exactly a democracy per se :P they do the same ---- that happends in egypt.. when a terrorist in egypt blew up the hotel.. the egyptian police arrested all his friends family and relatives :1

a suicide bomber blows themselves up israel levels the entire block he lived on :1

political prisoners are all over israel.. people who VOICED that they were in favor of te anihalation of israel were arrested.. i.e. political prisoners..

the thing is.. with hamas.. is they were willing to stop the "terrorism" if israel would agree to the demands.. and israel would agree to the demands if hamas stopped the terrorism.. so it was a kinda you go first, i wont go till u go stalemate..

67 borders make perfect sense.. they came into a soverign nations and stole the land from the people.. 67 borders was the only land israel legally took.. anything past it is illegal. all the settlements are illegal even by israeli law.. yet they continue to be inhabited..

the rocket attacks would stop if ---- went back to the 67 borders..

haman.. and all the other terrorist are just a bunch of ------s that dont really give a ---- about islam or palestine they just want to get there ***** up to blowing ---- up.. if they really gave a ---- about palestine they would know that the best thing for them to do would be to sign a cease fire.. that they would fuking agree to.. and israel needs to chill the ---- out.. the last cease fire got fucked up cause two retarded palestinian kids both under 18 walked too cloose to the israeli border and got there bodies riddled with bullets israel argued they were right to do that.. they searched the bodies and found nothing.. and the palestinians retaliated by firing rockets into the middle of nowhere which did no damage.. cause theyre primitive unguided rockets.. then israel proceeds to take some dozers and level off more farm land.. and shoot some artillery rounds into some suspected terrorist hide outs.. and killed no militants. but some innocent people in the process which causd the palestinians to retaliate by firing more rockets..

bah
its a cluster ---- it wont end..

israel is JUST AS fucked up as hamas is.
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I think we can all agree on one thing
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i was getting ready to change ti to that!
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i was getting ready to change ti to that!
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I guess Arabs just dont understand the basic rules of war.
When you attack a nation and lose the war, the defensive nation does whatever the ---- it pleases.

It's been like that since the beginning of time.
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I guess Arabs just dont understand the basic rules of war.
When you attack a nation and lose the war, the defensive nation does whatever the ---- it pleases.

It's been like that since the beginning of time.
dude. ive talked about this before...

if sadat handt signed the peace treaty with israel. israel would have been ------- owned..

which is why sadat (egypts president) got pwned..

why else do u think we dump so much money into a retarded country like egypt?

sry OSSBasha
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