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Old 10-12-2005, 07:11 PM
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
Huh, 500 whp is hard? Last I knew, you could get 450 whp pretty reliably from a stock 5.0 HO with boost... problem is, they are weak after the lightening campaign of the late 60's and prone to split down the center of the lifter galley at higher power levels. A stock 351W, that does not have a puling little girl block...

How about the stock long block GSR's pushing 500 whp with bolt on pimpshit and OMG JDM TUENARING That is some insane MaD tI-iTe 3rD gEaR v-TeCh y0!

Hrm, a quick perusal of the LS1 forums will show near-800 whp out of stock LS1... thread I am thinking of was at 12.5:1 AFR, the guy was so excited he posted the dyno sheet to the internet before adding fuel and taking another pull... and that is a punkass junkass engine if there ever was one. Broken cranks, split blocks, bent pushrods, fuckmullet oil pumps.

Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

How about the stock block Toy 3S-GTE pushing mid-700 whp with bolt ons? Secret Services, google it.

Huh. You sure don;t know much about cars, and what they can do if you exchange reliability for hot, sweaty, trackstar action.

Look for the budget 351W Capri. Or log into jyturbo@yahoogroups and talk to guys that know Sitar, his brother, his father, etc. He's old school. Works for Eaton, with roots blowers, daily.

the 3sgte is the sex, and one is going on my car very soon
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
Huh, 500 whp is hard? Last I knew, you could get 450 whp pretty reliably from a stock 5.0 HO with boost... problem is, they are weak after the lightening campaign of the late 60's and prone to split down the center of the lifter galley at higher power levels. A stock 351W, that does not have a puling little girl block...

How about the stock long block GSR's pushing 500 whp with bolt on pimpshit and OMG JDM TUENARING That is some insane MaD tI-iTe 3rD gEaR v-TeCh y0!

Hrm, a quick perusal of the LS1 forums will show near-800 whp out of stock LS1... thread I am thinking of was at 12.5:1 AFR, the guy was so excited he posted the dyno sheet to the internet before adding fuel and taking another pull... and that is a punkass junkass engine if there ever was one. Broken cranks, split blocks, bent pushrods, fuckmullet oil pumps.

Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

How about the stock block Toy 3S-GTE pushing mid-700 whp with bolt ons? Secret Services, google it.

Huh. You sure don;t know much about cars, and what they can do if you exchange reliability for hot, sweaty, trackstar action.

Look for the budget 351W Capri. Or log into jyturbo@yahoogroups and talk to guys that know Sitar, his brother, his father, etc. He's old school. Works for Eaton, with roots blowers, daily.
When YOU make that much power, know exactly what it takes, thennnnn start talking about how easy it is......just because someone else did it, doesn't mean you have any clue of the bs it took that they didnt mention. Funny you mention the turbo 2.3 ford motors, along with ls1's, and 5.0's. How many of these have you built up genius? I've played with all of them and have a pretty good idea of what it takes dollar and money wise, do you? I have a feeling that will be a no.....
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my paps just got a 7 second chevelle rolling chassis...tubbed like a **** , suspension, roll bar, wheelie bars, parachute etc......and i am going to be putting a TT 350 in that bitch. and my question is, do i want to put a 67 camaro full fiberglass body on top or do i want to put half fiberglass front end and a metal back end....for like weight on that back tires....or will i even need to worry about traction problems with tires that are like 2.5-30feet wide? all opions are are wanted!

To save all that typing, all you need to do is say you have a chassis car. Along with the suspension type(ladder bar, 4 link), and what size tire... It doesn't matter how big the tires are, if you have a car that makes power, and the suspension isn't setup right, you will be wasting your time. If the car was setup for a big block previous, i would go that route, it's easier, more realiable to make good power, and costs right around the same price of a good smallblock. Sounds like you don't know wtf you're talking about, it would probably be best talking to someone at a chassis shop, or somewhere that builts motors for these applications to get some real answers for this car.

TT smallblock, have fun with that one, say good bye to the pocket book if you want it to run right and reliable.
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Originally Posted by wantafastz28
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
Huh, 500 whp is hard? Last I knew, you could get 450 whp pretty reliably from a stock 5.0 HO with boost... problem is, they are weak after the lightening campaign of the late 60's and prone to split down the center of the lifter galley at higher power levels. A stock 351W, that does not have a puling little girl block...

How about the stock long block GSR's pushing 500 whp with bolt on pimpshit and OMG JDM TUENARING That is some insane MaD tI-iTe 3rD gEaR v-TeCh y0!

Hrm, a quick perusal of the LS1 forums will show near-800 whp out of stock LS1... thread I am thinking of was at 12.5:1 AFR, the guy was so excited he posted the dyno sheet to the internet before adding fuel and taking another pull... and that is a punkass junkass engine if there ever was one. Broken cranks, split blocks, bent pushrods, fuckmullet oil pumps.

Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

How about the stock block Toy 3S-GTE pushing mid-700 whp with bolt ons? Secret Services, google it.

Huh. You sure don;t know much about cars, and what they can do if you exchange reliability for hot, sweaty, trackstar action.

Look for the budget 351W Capri. Or log into jyturbo@yahoogroups and talk to guys that know Sitar, his brother, his father, etc. He's old school. Works for Eaton, with roots blowers, daily.
When YOU make that much power, know exactly what it takes, thennnnn start talking about how easy it is......just because someone else did it, doesn't mean you have any clue of the bs it took that they didnt mention. Funny you mention the turbo 2.3 ford motors, along with ls1's, and 5.0's. How many of these have you built up genius? I've played with all of them and have a pretty good idea of what it takes dollar and money wise, do you? I have a feeling that will be a no.....
he does actualy know what hes talking about. so you should watch who you spout your ---- off to jackass :1 and dont start with this high priced bye bye pocket book for a tt small block set up, capitan dick wad.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
Huh, 500 whp is hard? Last I knew, you could get 450 whp pretty reliably from a stock 5.0 HO with boost... problem is, they are weak after the lightening campaign of the late 60's and prone to split down the center of the lifter galley at higher power levels. A stock 351W, that does not have a puling little girl block...

How about the stock long block GSR's pushing 500 whp with bolt on pimpshit and OMG JDM TUENARING That is some insane MaD tI-iTe 3rD gEaR v-TeCh y0!

Hrm, a quick perusal of the LS1 forums will show near-800 whp out of stock LS1... thread I am thinking of was at 12.5:1 AFR, the guy was so excited he posted the dyno sheet to the internet before adding fuel and taking another pull... and that is a punkass junkass engine if there ever was one. Broken cranks, split blocks, bent pushrods, fuckmullet oil pumps.

Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

How about the stock block Toy 3S-GTE pushing mid-700 whp with bolt ons? Secret Services, google it.

Huh. You sure don;t know much about cars, and what they can do if you exchange reliability for hot, sweaty, trackstar action.

Look for the budget 351W Capri. Or log into jyturbo@yahoogroups and talk to guys that know Sitar, his brother, his father, etc. He's old school. Works for Eaton, with roots blowers, daily.
When YOU make that much power, know exactly what it takes, thennnnn start talking about how easy it is......just because someone else did it, doesn't mean you have any clue of the bs it took that they didnt mention. Funny you mention the turbo 2.3 ford motors, along with ls1's, and 5.0's. How many of these have you built up genius? I've played with all of them and have a pretty good idea of what it takes dollar and money wise, do you? I have a feeling that will be a no.....
he does actualy know what hes talking about. so you should watch who you spout your ---- off to jackass :1 and dont start with this high priced bye bye pocket book for a tt small block set up, capitan dick wad.
Yea he sounds about as knowledgeable as you. Pulling a bunch of bullshit that OTHER people have done from other msg. boards or magazines.
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Ive got a question. Have you looked at the nhra rules and regs to see what the chassis cert is? If not go check it out. As far as SB not producing sorry man. 406 small block chevy in a street stock 69 camaero. full interior PS, PB the full nine running 11,7@120 without nitro on drag radials. add the dual 250 shot kits and itll push low 9s all day. First problem is nhra rules say you have to run a cage if you run faster than 11.50. Id say start nhra amnd see what the chassis can run rules whys and go from there. If your interested trevor on the npsa site is selling his 70 chevelle roller certified to 7s for 20 and the drivetrain for 30. Its a 7.70 car could possibly go to 7.50 but youd have to run a lean tune and with 800hp on nitro they run fat. Anyways check out http://npsaracing.com/ thats my local hangout.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
Originally Posted by Joseph Davis
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.


Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

Ford 2.3's are pretty easy to make power with, the heads do suck but if you blow on them hard enough they will make damn good power. mine made 420 at the wheels
http://www.eville140.com/rx7.html

And geting power from a small block chevy is even easier, but it still takes a ton of cash to go fasy no matter what you have. Here is my buddies small block chevy mustang, all the work was done by him. HMT style.... No bought turbo kit, just a bunch of welding. It is still not running right, but put down 850 at the wheels
http://www.eville140.com/bw.html

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i was trying to say that it wasnt cheap i didnt mean it was hard i meant it was more expensive than most people think, and as far as the 2.3 goes ive never worked with them but i know theyre capable cause the bottom ends are forged stock arent they, along with the 3g-ste, as far as they go they are forged also right? any way nice setups in both the rx7 and mustang.
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How many of these have you built up genius? I've played with all of them and have a pretty good idea of what it takes dollar and money wise, do you?
Apparently I have a better idea than you do.

Search the general forum for the CRX HF vs GSXR 750 thread. That was a low buck assembly job done by a 19 y/old kid, tuned by yours truly.

Z28, huh? You on 3rd gen .org? Ask Mark Pikas about me. I pal around a bit with Bruce "Grumpy" Plecan's friends, Dave Williams and Robert "Mean Gringo Bob" Harris. That should be enough of a DUMBestic pedigree to make you crawl back into the hole you came out of.
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How many of these have you built up genius? I've played with all of them and have a pretty good idea of what it takes dollar and money wise, do you?
Apparently I have a better idea than you do.

Search the general forum for the CRX HF vs GSXR 750 thread. That was a low buck assembly job done by a 19 y/old kid, tuned by yours truly.

Z28, huh? You on 3rd gen .org? Ask Mark Pikas about me. I pal around a bit with Bruce "Grumpy" Plecan's friends, Dave Williams and Robert "Mean Gringo Bob" Harris. That should be enough of a DUMBestic pedigree to make you crawl back into the hole you came out of.
I dont care about crx's, and i really don't give a ---- about 3rd gen mullets. What does any of that have to do with you building small blocks and making the power you claim that's easily attainable?? I could bring up friends making shitloads of power, and running fast times all day long, but where does that get me? It makes me look about as stupid as you..... as for building my own ----, and talking about stuff I'VE delt with first hand, makes me feel alot better when it comes to talking about WTF is going on, compared to person like you, that's limited to what someone else has done, and the details they gave out.
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