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Old 10-10-2005, 07:29 PM
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
Unfortunately in the world of displacement, this is not so true. A mild/mid build on a 350 will net you 500 hp. If you wanna get picky......Gm offers a 350 that is 465 + hp, all motor, and I imagine there is still some room left for a solid build. Imagine taht engine and 10 lbs of FI goodness. hell even a Direct port nitrous setup will give you some pretty solid gains.
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Old 10-11-2005, 09:50 AM
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yeah and you get there with headwork, a good set of heads and some forged internals and good intake manifolds and so on, expensive. trust me im in the process of building one and my grandfather did all the machine work on it and it is still not cheap.
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dude when u do 8 to 9 sec it has to be near perfect
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Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
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Fiberglass body panels look like ----. Chevelle chasis and Camaro body HMMMMMMMM........not liking the way you think
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im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
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yeah, street cars are no where neer stable enough to handle sub 9 second runs.
Wanna bet?

8.90's THRU the mufflers and on DOT legal tires..........

I'll load up the video when I find it on my hard drive, a local to us, rawr.........
for some reason when i thought 8-9 second street car I wasent thinking a car with a full cage. its still alittle shakey at the big end. expecialy at edgewater.
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Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
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Originally Posted by boosted_hatch_216
im just gonna say 500 hp is alot more work than most people think. even with turbos.
www.toohighpsi.com

Yeah, 680 whp spinning slicks on the dyno rollers for $3000 worth of cobbled together ****. Work.

Stock '72 truck bottom end, with some TRW forgings slapped on the rods.
could you link me directly to this 680 hp beast, i some how have a hard time believing that it is on stock rods, stock block yes, stock rods, umm no, maybe on a big block but thats a whole nother world, and ill rephrase my previous statement and say it is a lot more expensive than most people think to build a 500 hp v8, 3 grand is still expensive, and then having a tranny that will hold the power not to mention a rear end and then suspension to put it to the ground = CHA CHING, i dont care what anyone says its not cheap unless your some insane guru then maybe.
Huh, 500 whp is hard? Last I knew, you could get 450 whp pretty reliably from a stock 5.0 HO with boost... problem is, they are weak after the lightening campaign of the late 60's and prone to split down the center of the lifter galley at higher power levels. A stock 351W, that does not have a puling little girl block...

How about the stock long block GSR's pushing 500 whp with bolt on pimpshit and OMG JDM TUENARING That is some insane MaD tI-iTe 3rD gEaR v-TeCh y0!

Hrm, a quick perusal of the LS1 forums will show near-800 whp out of stock LS1... thread I am thinking of was at 12.5:1 AFR, the guy was so excited he posted the dyno sheet to the internet before adding fuel and taking another pull... and that is a punkass junkass engine if there ever was one. Broken cranks, split blocks, bent pushrods, fuckmullet oil pumps.

Son, they get 400 whp reliably out of Ford 2.3T - have you ever seen one of those HEADS? It makes Mini-Mopar 2.2 look like a gift from God. Try breathing through a turd pls kthx.

How about the stock block Toy 3S-GTE pushing mid-700 whp with bolt ons? Secret Services, google it.

Huh. You sure don;t know much about cars, and what they can do if you exchange reliability for hot, sweaty, trackstar action.

Look for the budget 351W Capri. Or log into jyturbo@yahoogroups and talk to guys that know Sitar, his brother, his father, etc. He's old school. Works for Eaton, with roots blowers, daily.
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its not worth my time to argue with someone over the internet.
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