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J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 04:33 AM

got turbines?
 
went shootin and picked up me some turbos for my stang. and started workin on the heads pat gave me.
the joys of embaressing high 14 sec runs are nearing their end >:D

they're M10's that came on dodge 2.2l i figured i could deal with the homo flange for the price. $30 a peice.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/twin_turbines1.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/twin_turbines2.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...hootin_8_1.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...ootin_8_10.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...hootin_8_2.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...hootin_8_5.jpg



absolutezroo 03-13-2005 09:01 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
what cal is that rifle?

SkunT 03-13-2005 09:06 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
where do you live again johnny? it looks beautiful.

absolutezroo 03-13-2005 09:09 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
i wish i had a big ass area like that to shoot...i bet a shitload of deer come up in there with those pine trees..

Bob_Barker 03-13-2005 11:35 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
those aint pine trees you dumbass there firs O0

Dr.Boost 03-13-2005 11:47 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
Hi. :D
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...hootin_8_1.jpg



What size are those turbos? I would have went with somethign a bit bigger, but I guess for the price you can't go wrong. Those things are going to spool at idle on your motor.

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Ravage70 03-13-2005 11:48 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
i hope u have stock heads cuz those turbos arent meant to flow what u need
sellem for 100 a piece and get urself a nice t4

Paul99EX 03-13-2005 11:49 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
you got a real messy work table :P

BLACKSI 03-13-2005 11:56 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
i can get flanges for those turbo's.

Beau

accordepicenter 03-13-2005 11:56 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
those turbos should get him to 500hp and spool up better than a straight T4...

CivicZC 03-13-2005 12:02 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
Nice turbos. Those look like they can push a decent amount of air. My turbo had some gay flange like that too. I just had a piece of aluminum tubing welded to the inlet. Only cost me like ten bucks at a machine shop.

Just noticed you were tlaking about the exhaust inlet flange. That thing is weird, good luck with that.

Btw, where do you go shooting? I live in beaverton and have to drive halfway to seaside for a decent place to shoot, and it's not nearly as open.

FooK 03-13-2005 12:36 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
hot chicks with guns, johnny's simple yet wonderful life 8)

i still wanna get my glock.

Honda16hb 03-13-2005 12:43 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
I have one of the compressor inlet elbows for your turbos, $15 shipped.

Turbo242 03-13-2005 12:45 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
Yea i got some O0

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

accordepicenter 03-13-2005 12:50 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

I have one of the compressor inlet elbows for your turbos, $15 shipped.
$20 shipped for a pair of inlet elbows. Just try finding them on ebay

mattnteclipse 03-13-2005 01:29 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
Gotta love berretas.

J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 02:21 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
the rifle is a 22LR ;)

i have both the turbo inlets, im not going to use them because they have a lot of gay emissions crap sitting on them, unless i want to block them off. i also have both the stock downpipes, with a lil peice of pipe still left so i can easily weld my downpipe up.

the turbos are kinda small... .42/.48, im sure they will spool at idle, but this is a stock 5 liter motor and the heads are stockers, but will be ported. you should see the size of the exhaust ports/intake ports/exhaust valves its almost cartoonish. i'll take some pictures today...

i hope they spool at idle cause that is where this engine makes power 1200 - 5000

spoon fed 03-13-2005 03:57 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by Dr.Boost
Hi. :D
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...hootin_8_1.jpg



What size are those turbos? I would have went with somethign a bit bigger, but I guess for the price you can't go wrong. Those things are going to spool at idle on your motor.


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HMT-Admin 03-13-2005 04:47 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
Johnny those turbos are gonna work just fine on your 5.0l, I really doubt they are going to spool at idle, but it will spool pretty fast.


FooK 03-13-2005 05:03 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Johnny those turbos are gonna work just fine on your 5.0l, I really doubt they are going to spool at idle, but it will spool pretty fast.

i was kinda thinking the same thing. Everyone told us that the t3 we got for the 4.0 jeep was gonna be too small, but they only rev to like 5 grand and its not like we're trying to push 400hp outta the thing. Tho I think the engine could take it easy. I think the 275-300 range is gonna be the goal on it.

unless johnny's trying to make some crazy hp gains from em, I dont see them being a bottleneck in his setup.


J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 05:07 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Johnny those turbos are gonna work just fine on your 5.0l, I really doubt they are going to spool at idle, but it will spool pretty fast.

i was kinda thinking the same thing. Everyone told us that the t3 we got for the 4.0 jeep was gonna be too small, but they only rev to like 5 grand and its not like we're trying to push 400hp outta the thing. Tho I think the engine could take it easy. I think the 275-300 range is gonna be the goal on it.

unless johnny's trying to make some crazy hp gains from em, I dont see them being a bottleneck in his setup.


400rwhp my goal.

anywhere between 350-450rwhp @ the stock acuator setting with make me happy.

i dont wnt this to be a block splitter

FooK 03-13-2005 05:09 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Johnny those turbos are gonna work just fine on your 5.0l, I really doubt they are going to spool at idle, but it will spool pretty fast.

i was kinda thinking the same thing. Everyone told us that the t3 we got for the 4.0 jeep was gonna be too small, but they only rev to like 5 grand and its not like we're trying to push 400hp outta the thing. Tho I think the engine could take it easy. I think the 275-300 range is gonna be the goal on it.

unless johnny's trying to make some crazy hp gains from em, I dont see them being a bottleneck in his setup.


400rwhp my goal.

anywhere between 350-450rwhp @ the stock acuator setting with make me happy.

i dont wnt this to be a block splitter

shouldnt be too hard, you're already around 300 arent you?

Alex in Houston 03-13-2005 07:18 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike

400rwhp my goal.

anywhere between 350-450rwhp @ the stock acuator setting with make me happy.

i dont wnt this to be a block splitter

I ran those Dodge units on my first twin turbo set-up (the one from the video) They will work lfine for what you want, but no where near the stock settings (you're going to need about 15 psi).

J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 10:17 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by random-strike

Originally Posted by FooK

Originally Posted by AbaZ
Johnny those turbos are gonna work just fine on your 5.0l, I really doubt they are going to spool at idle, but it will spool pretty fast.

i was kinda thinking the same thing. Everyone told us that the t3 we got for the 4.0 jeep was gonna be too small, but they only rev to like 5 grand and its not like we're trying to push 400hp outta the thing. Tho I think the engine could take it easy. I think the 275-300 range is gonna be the goal on it.

unless johnny's trying to make some crazy hp gains from em, I dont see them being a bottleneck in his setup.


400rwhp my goal.

anywhere between 350-450rwhp @ the stock acuator setting with make me happy.

i dont wnt this to be a block splitter

shouldnt be too hard, you're already around 300 arent you?

no, not even close its probably around 225-ISH to the wheels.

the stock torque rating is 300 at the crank..


J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 10:19 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by Alex in Houston

Originally Posted by random-strike

400rwhp my goal.

anywhere between 350-450rwhp @ the stock acuator setting with make me happy.

i dont wnt this to be a block splitter

I ran those Dodge units on my first twin turbo set-up (the one from the video) They will work lfine for what you want, but no where near the stock settings (you're going to need about 15 psi).

15psi for around 400rwhp?

my plans are 46lb/hr injectors and re-calibrated MAF. is that all cool for the fuel? is 15psi safe

thanks for the advice alex.

Johnny

J-SMITH69 03-13-2005 10:30 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
heads got some work done to em today. i noticed one of the valve guides is cracked. so its probably guna need all new valve guides.

as for the CARTOONISH size of the ports on these heads i got some pictures. i put a gasket up to it and started to port match. it does make a huge difference ;)

i dont know what the deal with my bit is but it doesnt work on cast that well. it took me a good hour to not even finish one exhaust port. im still working on smoothing the transition of the top of that port. my folks were getting pissed at the air compressor noise.

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/heads3.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/heads1.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/heads2.jpg

shes gives good head.
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/LA_heads1.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/LA_heads2.jpg

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/twin_turbines3.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/heads4.jpg
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/stuff.jpg




BoosTedZSix 03-13-2005 10:36 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
you have your gurl porting your head ::). im jealous ;)

J-SMITH69 03-14-2005 12:34 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
alex, do you have anything left from your setup with the 2.2 turbos. like flanges? like header flanges with the 2.2 turbo flange already welded on ;)

:-*

Alex in Houston 03-14-2005 07:12 AM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
alex, do you have anything left from your setup with the 2.2 turbos. like flanges? like header flanges with the 2.2 turbo flange already welded on ;)

:-*

No spare pastrs, I sold the set-up complete.
Somethings of interest to note about using the Doidge T3's:

You really don't need any special inlet flange (though a few places now sell them on line) Simply place a standard t-3 gasket on the turbo and drill out the necessary 2 holes. It's really that simple

Dodge exhasue elbows are not reversible I. E. one of them will face straight up and no other T3 5 bolt flange fits a Dodge T3. I welded a 5 bolt flange from a Saab directly to the turbo housing. That alliowed me to make a down pipe for the drivers side {see pic)

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/920/mvc004f.jpg

Oh yeah, that unit is a 50 trim wheel and 15 psi is about right on the edge of the compressors effeciency range. It will take that to make in the 400s with the ,42/.48 housings.

yo9u sho9uld be fine with the 46lb units as loing as you run a properly cal'd meter. If you don't plan to run any type of tuner (twEECer or EEC-Tuner) lock out your timing at 22* to take out that variable. That way the eeec only contros fuel parameters and won't advance/retard the timing past the 22* ever. 22* is safe to start and you can raise/lower from there.

J-SMITH69 03-14-2005 02:31 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
how would i lock out the timing? what would the base timing be set at?

Alex in Houston 03-15-2005 06:53 AM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by random-strike
how would i lock out the timing? what would the base timing be set at?

To lock out the timing, simply pull the spout plug (litle thingy hanging from the TFI plug on the distributor). Using a timing light, set base timing to *22, tighten the bolt on the distributor and DO NOT replace the spout plug. When you remove the spout, the computer automatically defaults to whatever the baase timing is (in stock form thjat's 10 BTDC). When youi set it at *22 spout out, it will always see *22 and won't raise or lower it. The EEC effectivgely becomes a fuel only computer system.

J-SMITH69 03-15-2005 04:34 PM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by Alex in Houston

Originally Posted by random-strike
how would i lock out the timing? what would the base timing be set at?

To lock out the timing, simply pull the spout plug (litle thingy hanging from the TFI plug on the distributor). Using a timing light, set base timing to *22, tighten the bolt on the distributor and DO NOT replace the spout plug. When you remove the spout, the computer automatically defaults to whatever the baase timing is (in stock form thjat's 10 BTDC). When youi set it at *22 spout out, it will always see *22 and won't raise or lower it. The EEC effectivgely becomes a fuel only computer system.

really? cool. it still runs fine then down low? sounds coo

J-SMITH69 03-16-2005 07:15 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
dunno how well its gunna work, but eh whatever :)

https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss/ported1.jpg

Xgenturbo 03-16-2005 08:03 PM

Re: got turbines?
 
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...ootin_8_10.jpg

He looks like a whiteboy Thug from the game Grand Theft Auto.

Hmm...Less beer??? Nice gun, but I have to agree with spoonie, a girl with a gun is such a turn on, unless the barrel is pointed towards you.

con 03-17-2005 09:23 AM

Re: got turbines?
 

Originally Posted by 4thGenTurbo
https://www.homemadeturbo.com/jbliss...ootin_8_10.jpg

I love your belly in that pink shirt ;D


HondaTuner 03-17-2005 09:26 AM

Re: got turbines?
 
Looks good Johnny.. I'll be lookin out for a post when the turbo's are on and spinnin ^-^


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