got boost!!!!
i finally got to drive my car with boost tonight thanks to the new bin from xenocron (thanx again!) it feels great, pulls hard, and seems strong, i still have a few issues though :( it cuts out at 6k rpm, and my rev limiter is set at 8k rpm, and i dont think its boost cut at 8 psi? also its kinda weird but when i shut my key off and pull it out theres like a 3 second delay befor the car shuts off, wtf is that about? oh my set up for those who dont know is....
-stock b16a crx si -clutchmaster stage 3 and light weight flywheel -hasport mounts -bfg g-force t/a kdw 2 tires -garrett t3 .48/.60 60 trim -ssac wastegate @ 8psi -31''x 6'' ebay fmic -tnt cast manifold -knockoff turbo xs b.o.v -custom 2 1/2" charge piping -open 2 1/2" down pipe (for now) -dsm 450's -pm6 with turbo edit |
Re: got boost!!!!
sounds like boost cut actually.
look into ng48, done right it can get rid of boost cut. |
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i have an ng48 bin file im running now, map was made by xenocron, and at 8 psi you can get boost cut? anyone know anything about the car staying running after i shut the key off?
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i never knew how much of a luxury it was to have a father in law install and custom make my exhaust..
Once i got on this site, i learned to appreciate that.. Open DP sounds like butthole.. almost has bad as open header.. lol Props on boosting the b16.. I can't afford to boost my z6 =\... well.. I can, but my wife won't let me! :'( |
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it does sound like butt hole, except when your bouncing off that launch controll, sounds like a ------ race car >:D
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alec's zc still boost cut at 8psi, boost cut on that turboedit stuff was odd.
and he would still cut on an ng48 xenocron gave him called ng48-rory-something. do your column headings show correctly in turboedit? cause the one he gave us that didnt show correctly, didnt work. |
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To see if its boost cut, just floor it at 5k and hold the car at the same speed with the brake until the boost comes all the way up.
Does it cut at 6k if you rev it in neutral while moving? Almost sounds like the cold rev limit. My wagon was sensative to it, even when fully warmed. A friend of mines car also would hit the cold limit sometimes, even when hot. Good luck with it. Boost cut is HOT |
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There is a new TE 2.5 something and new Rom's NG-55's etc.. look into those.
I never had boost cut issues with NG48 boosted 10-11 psi fine. Does the power drop drastically at 6K? or does it feel just like it isn't pulling so hard?? maybe a bigger turbine would cure it if it was the second one. |
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it feels like it wont rev any higher! it still has power to be had up above 6k rpm, but at 6k rpm it just starts sputtering and wont rev any higher untill i dump it into the next gear, and i can rev it past 6k rpm in nuetral cruising....could inaccurate coulmn headings do this? cuz mine are fucked...how do i fix it, last time i tryed to fix it by copy/pasteing the values into another ng 48 bin with accurate column headings the car wouldnt even run ??? oh and i already tryed leaning it out by 10% above 6k rpm thinking it was a rich condition, but that only made it worse....
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You can't copy/paste ng48 maps into ng55. The columns are different. You'll need to make a converter ------sheet, or just steal one from http://forum.pgmfi.org/viewtopic.php?t=4973
Yes, it sucks. However, the columns should be accurate and stable from ng55/TE2.5.x on. It sounds like you need to work on your boost tune. It also sounds like you're blindly playing with fuel values; get a wideband and you should have no trouble solving your problem. |
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I sent him both an NG48 and NG55 version, properly recalibrated...
Is this 6k thing happening on both? I wouldnt make a 6k cold rev limit on a b16 so its not that...most likely just tuning. Boost cut shouldnt be an issue anymore either like it used to be. |
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havent tryed ng55 yet...that comes tonight!!!! hopefully it helps..
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ng 55 got me revvin to 8000 rpm!!!!!! a lot of power up there that i didnt feel untill about 5 minutes ago, its awesom thanx xenocron and everyone else that helped out, now its dyno time....
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I have teh alomst same setup as you.
I will be using a PS9 with Ng55 in stead though. Tuning at 12 psi. Gonna daily run 10. |
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Stock fuel pump on this one?
Fuel pressure gauge? |
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pm6? what are you using for a vtec activator?pm6 last i knew couldnt activate vtec only the ps9 ecu.and i hope your not reving to 8000 with no vtec controller.... :o
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how come there are no boost values on the converter rory?
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I did say it was uber-crude, right? :P
Check the thread again. I just posted an updated version. |
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You might want to check out all of your ignition equipment when it comes to the car not shutting off until 3 seconds after you turn the key.
I had the same thing happen to me with my mustang and it ended up being the solenoid right after the battery...the starter was going bad and it kept frying the solenoid. I don't know if hondas have anything like that but thats what it sounds like to me. Also, do you have a turbo timer? |
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no turbo timer, and yes stock fuel pump, and im using an msd 8950 rpm switch to activate vtec.....and now i need more boost >:D
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