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Old 01-10-2007, 08:06 AM
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wow...this is allnew to me...sounds like a good time tho...guess ill google it and read
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Harmaline is a hallucenogen in and of itself, but not at the doses I took it. I forget if it is a MAOI or not. Selegiline only partially inhibits at low doses, then becomes a full MAOI at higher dosage.

Some phalaris has bufotenine, if forget the exact name for it but it is neither n,n-dimethytryptamine nor 5-MeO-etc. Lot of body load for me, or overawareness of my meatspace, I dislike. 2CB, for example, freaks me out.

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wow...this is allnew to me...sounds like a good time tho...guess ill google it and read
www.erowid.org is my personal favorite "drug research" site. I look up everything before I try it

JD - Yeah I remember reading about bufotenine somewhere. It's a chemical that is in some of the grass that people guess is what causes the "bad trips." 2CB, haven't tried and if I do it'll be a small dose. ~25mg of 2C-T-2 wasn't bad at all and I wouldn't mind 30-35mg next time. Have any experience with 2CI?
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Old 01-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Jorsher
www.erowid.org is my personal favorite "drug research" site. I look up everything before I try it

JD - Yeah I remember reading about bufotenine somewhere. It's a chemical that is in some of the grass that people guess is what causes the "bad trips." 2CB, haven't tried and if I do it'll be a small dose. ~25mg of 2C-T-2 wasn't bad at all and I wouldn't mind 30-35mg next time. Have any experience with 2CI?

yes i agree, thats a good site..i remember going there before i started growing mushrooms....somehow it never ended up in my favorite places...thanks!
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drugs-forum.com = HMT of drug forums
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Old 01-11-2007, 04:49 PM
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www.erowid.org is my personal favorite "drug research" site. I look up everything before I try it
I always liked The Hive, but I believe it's defunct now.


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I remember reading about bufotenine somewhere. It's a chemical that is in some of the grass that people guess is what causes hypertensive crises (high blood pressure) which lead to strokes/heart attacks.
Fixed it for you.

You'd probably like 2CB a LOT, most people do. It's a body buzz instead of a head buzz, and the reason people love it is the reason I don't like it.



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I always liked The Hive, but I believe it's defunct now.


Fixed it for you.

You'd probably like 2CB a LOT, most people do. It's a body buzz instead of a head buzz, and the reason people love it is the reason I don't like it.
I like mind altering drugs And yeah, I looked into the phalaris on erowid. The only species with bufotenine and 5-MeO-DMT is philaris tuberosa, it also has DMT. 5-MeO-DMT is more potent than DMT but also doesn't produce the halluciinations (and I like the hallucinations). Philaris Arundinacea (the kind I'm growing) only has DMT.

Check out:
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_...l/tihkal.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_...l/pihkal.shtml

I'm probably going to buy them both.
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Wasn't there one in that series for Quilones as well?
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Wasn't there one in that series for Quilones as well?
Nope don't think so. Have only heard of pihkal and tihkal. Wonder how to get more of these chemicals.
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Well, maybe this link will give you ideas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hive_(website)
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